Massive ao oni revision

[Sans2345]

Ao oni should ignore durability via transmutation hax, and has poor supporting facts about the AP, it destroyed a small dresser which in this case would be street level+ the pushing a large bookcase fact should be lifting strength not AP or durability, which do not scale to AP and durability


So ao oni should be 9-B and 9-C and should have transmutation hax and can ignore durability and should have lifting strength of the moving a large bookcase fact in AP.

 

[Jaften]

Oni already has transmutation listed on the profile. Oni's transmutation appears to function via necromancy.

Destroying the dresser would depend on the size of the dresser and the level of destruction. I don't remember enough about Ao Oni to say off hand what tier it should be. Putting a hole in a wooden floor may easily be wall level, however, depending on the size of the hole. I've done calcs about characters cratering wooden floors and those were in the wall level range. I think that may need to be calced.

You are correct that pushing a bookcase is a lifting strength feat, and would not scale to AP/durability.

 

[Sans2345]

Oni already has transmutation listed on the profile. Oni's transmutation appears to function via necromancy.
Destroying the dresser would depend on the size of the dresser and the level of destruction. I don't remember enough about Ao Oni to say off hand what tier it should be. Putting a hole in a wooden floor may easily be wall level, however, depending on the size of the hole. I've done calcs about characters cratering wooden floors and those were in the wall level range. I think that may need to be calced.

You are correct that pushing a bookcase is a lifting strength feat, and would not scale to AP/durability.

Yes but when ao oni kills you he kills you on contact implying you turned into a oni yourself

 

[Jaften]

This may just be a gameplay element.

 

[Sans2345]

This may just be a gameplay element.

I know but then again thats the ability of ao oni.

 

[Sans2345]

I will just wait to see if people agrees with this thread.

 

[Sans2345]

Bump

 

[Sans2345]

Bump

 

[GojiBoyForever]

Destroying a dresser sounds like a 9-B feat to me.

 

[Sans2345]

Destroying a dresser sounds like a 9-B feat to me.

I mean it depends on the size though

 

[Sans2345]

Bump i still think we need calcs

 

[GojiBoyForever]

We don't need calcs show the size of the dresser.

 

[The_Smashor]

Also, Ao Oni should have minor Toon Force for it's hiding behind a diologue box thing. Toon Force isn't restricted to silly characters, after all.

 

[Sans2345]

Also, Ao Oni should have minor Toon Force for it's hiding behind a diologue box thing. Toon Force isn't restricted to silly characters, after all.

How is that toon force that's 4th wall awareness

 

[GojiBoyForever]

No, don't think it is.

 

[Jaften]

Actually, I'm on Sans2345's side on this. Ao Oni doesn't forcefully bend or break the laws of physics ("toon-force") in order to hide behind a dialogue box. Rather, all it does is seemingly use meta-knowledge ("breaking the 4th wall") of the fact that the player(s) cannot see what is happening behind a dialogue box to its advantage.

If Ao Oni did something like create or move a dialogue box (which exists as part of the 4th wall of the game) in order to cover itself or anything else, I might feel differently about this—but all it does is passively exploit something that already existed in the game at the time, which I feel is best described as simply "breaking the 4th wall."

 

[The_Smashor]

I see.

 

[GojiBoyForever]

I feel it is just toon force.

 

[Jaften]

I feel it is just toon force.

But there's no physics involved here. Just knowledge that the player can't see past the dialogue boxes.

 

[GojiBoyForever]

Hmm. Alright then.

 

[Sans2345]

I mean the pushing a large bookcase should be lifting strength not AP.

 

[Sans2345]

Bump

 

[Sans2345]

Bump

 

[Sans2345]

Bump