I just peeped the World ending statement for adam In the fanbook and they show Adams stronger attacks like dark tremendous as visuals for his magic that can end the world. The fanbook when talking about certain abilities always show A visual of what they're referring to when they are describing something So unironically its likely Referring to his stronger attacks rather than something he can only do in his summons or thirds
So how exactly would his statistics be arranged? something like, [insert tier], 5-B with stronger spells, 10x with summons, 10x with Thirds?
No, that wasn't his Summons, the eldritch baby rattle is. We know this as when Innocent Zero stole Spaces and casted a Summons, it was the exact same copy as Wahlberg's. So the same should apply to Darkness, the Summons being that rattle and not the scythe.
I would probably say he should be at least somewhat relative to his stronger spells so maybe like "Small Planet level, Planet level with stronger spells, 10x with summons (if only we can use the based anime multipliers
), 10x with thirds"
So by the end of it all, Summons Adam would be 628.4 Zettatons (very high into planet level), and his Thirds would be 6.284 Yottatons (large planet level)I would probably say he should be at least somewhat relative to his stronger spells so maybe like "Small Planet level, Planet level with stronger spells, 10x with summons (if only we can use the based anime multipliers
I don't think it would be an outlier imo as there are no scaling inconsistency's if it were to be true.
I guess so. Wahlberg was said to be at the top of the magic world before his magic was stolen, base Innocent Zero was touted as the greatest magic user in recorded history, Adam Jobs is described as a creator god as you've mentioned before (aka one of the top dogs by definition), and God tier characters transcend all magic.
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Here is my plan we don't know how strong he was compared to others but we do have statement for his magic had power to destroy the world.
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I mean hey, he has the title of creator god, he was able to push Summons Wahlberg away with only pure magic in base when his corpse was being controlled (summons Wahlberg should be 5-C that should be updated tbh), then there's the statement that his magic has the potential to end the world
I guess we should place his base value at the current 5-C value we have, multiply it by 10 for his summons, and then 5-B for his Thirds since it's the same Lucifer Inclination
I already commented on the use of Doom in the justification.
Sandbox is old. It's still not updated with what we discussed. Let @AnAverageUsername work on the sts first.
That will help. I just need explanation I'll add the scans myself
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I'm not sure about it myself, darkness magic is a whole headache and a half to scale. Do we say it's EE properties are fully physical due to characters surviving it, such as Mash? If that's the case, we should get calculations for him blasting holes through those mountains and him potentially being able to destroy the world with it going by the fanbook.
As I suggested before Adam and IZ Dark magic both has different properties. Adam one clearly erases its target without creating any smokes or something while IZ Dark magic has some smoke and other stuff.
Was planning about that but we know Wahlberg is stronger currently but Adam still should downscale I think
The problem I'm facing is scaling chain explanation. I just don't want to say he is superior to this guy without giving any scans
Besides, they actually have different names (Dark - Darkness).
Maybe it's mutated?
Maybe, maybe not. Magic really changes when IZ gets stronger, for example when he got the wand of beginnings.
Or, you know, Komoto changed his mind in the middle of the story, he just does that. Considering we saw no difference between Wahlberg's Spaces and IZ's stolen version of it, there's nothing to suggest that there's a difference unless stated in the fanbook. Speaking of which-
Have you checked both Adam's and IZ's pages to see if Komoto changed his mind or not. That's probably the best thing to look at since it contains all updated information, though without a proper translation its going to be hard to judge things. Adam apparently has the title of "creator god" with what's been discussed here. Not really a title to be taken lightly yeah?
Yeah but the thing is that Innocent Zero shows what a Darkness Summons wand looks like. Perhaps Wahlberg is only more powerful than base Adam, not his Summons state.
Probably why we should have his page in the fanbook translated....
I didn't quite understand what you meant, but let's take a magic, the one with snakes.
What I meant was checking the fanbook pages for both Adam and Innocent Zero. Character pages in it include the wizard's magic(s), so potentially that can answer if they're truly separate since it's the most up to date information.I didn't quite understand what you meant, but let's take a magic, the one with snakes.
(ダーク スネーク, Dāku Sunēku)
(ダークネススネーク Dākunesu Sunēku).
So the question remains, is it exactly the same magic?
This is clear cut different magic then. We don't need Author to specifically state this. When we got different Kanjis and feats for both magic it's pretty much clear both are different.I didn't quite understand what you meant, but let's take a magic, the one with snakes.
(ダーク スネーク, Dāku Sunēku)
(ダークネススネーク Dākunesu Sunēku).
So the question remains, is it exactly the same magic?
If we consider IZ using darkness wand is different than Adams then this doesn't matter
I have the raws but well don't have Translators. You see vs wiki Translation thread is currently has too many requests I doubt we will get translation soon even if I post them.
Mash needs a Second Key for his Post training arc and he also needs his IQ and some other feats updated.
I remembered I made this a long while ago, does it still hold up? And another thing, there was also a claim that GoD created the world in Mashle, stated in the fanbook. Can anyone check this?
Wss busy but I still got sandbox for Adam lets see if I can get some free time this weekend
I mean we should at least get translations for both Adam's and God's pages to see if I'm crazy or not
God creating the world (and probably the universe but not gonna say much) is stated in the manga not the fanbook.
Really? When was that in the series?
It's stated at the beginning of the visionary exam arc when he's on trial
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You already got an answer though, it's basically nonsensical
Doing good, got a laptop working so that I can continue making profiles. Only problem is the, uh, lack of calculated God tier feats. And fanbook statements....
