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MASHLE: Magic and Muscles Discussion Thread

Tbh the anime is peak enough that I don't even wanna read the manga. Does the anime adapt the manga well ?
 
Did Ryoh ever teleport in the Manga? I notice he teleported in the recent episode. And not the universal teleportation everyone can do. It looked like his own version.
 
DAblue9k said:
Is IZ's divine punishment not accepted as ap?
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Eeeeh.... probably time for a reread on that chapter to see it. Cause frankly Dark Magic is inconsistent. At first its said to eat away and send everything to the void, but every subsequent attack it acts physical. But the we have the whole Divine Punishment stuff....
 
AnAverageUsername said:
Eeeeh.... probably time for a reread on that chapter to see it. Cause frankly Dark Magic is inconsistent. At first its said to eat away and send everything to the void, but every subsequent attack it acts physical. But the we have the whole Divine Punishment stuff....
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Tbh it might be a hollow purple type situation where it's stated to erase things but when it's shown things like rubble or buildings somehow don't get completely erased (idk if this is the best example but you get what I'm trying to say), so it might be a thing where komoto might not be able to always show things getting erased ect. Tho the attack can be physical while also having EE properties, so I would say divine punishment should count as ap.
 
DAblue9k said:
Tbh it might be a hollow purple type situation where it's stated to erase things but when it's shown things like rubble or buildings somehow don't get completely erased (idk if this is the best example but you get what I'm trying to say), so it might be a thing where komoto might not be able to always show things getting erased ect. Tho the attack can be physical while also having EE properties, so I would say divine punishment should count as ap.
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No I mean it leaves steam behind when it crashes into the environment, and characters like Mash can withstand it.

Anyways, I reread the chapters. So in chapter 158, it is indeed stated that it will "destroy the world". Sounds like a 5-B feat yeah? But then, when it continues crashing downward in 160, Innocent Zero says that it consumes all and because of this Mash's physical strength will be rendered null. But after the continent is pushed out of the way and the attack lands in the ocean, it displaces a whole lot of ocean water creating that tsunami, meaning it has to be physical right? But because it landed in the ocean but didn't destroy everything, is it even 5-B anymore? And on the Mashle wiki it's apparently said it would destroy or erase the "entire Magical Realm". Like were did this info come from, the fanbook? If that's the case, then is it universal or does it refer to only the planet????!??!?

I'm thinking too hard
 
The black ball isnt calculable since Zero stated that it ignores any physical force, so we are limited by the environmental destruction caused

I tried to use KE with the black ball, but the result was 5-A, something that wouldn't make sense
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
The black ball isnt calculable since Zero stated that it ignores any physical force, so we are limited by the environmental destruction caused

I tried to use KE with the black ball, but the result was 5-A, something that wouldn't make sense
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I mean maybe Mashle's planet is some super planet or something. If that energy transfers to the waters though, 5-A Mash would've been based.
 
AnAverageUsername said:
No I mean it leaves steam behind when it crashes into the environment, and characters like Mash can withstand it.

Anyways, I reread the chapters. So in chapter 158, it is indeed stated that it will "destroy the world". Sounds like a 5-B feat yeah? But then, when it continues crashing downward in 160, Innocent Zero says that it consumes all and because of this Mash's physical strength will be rendered null. But after the continent is pushed out of the way and the attack lands in the ocean, it displaces a whole lot of ocean water creating that tsunami, meaning it has to be physical right? But because it landed in the ocean but didn't destroy everything, is it even 5-B anymore? And on the Mashle wiki it's apparently said it would destroy or erase the "entire Magical Realm". Like were did this info come from, the fanbook? If that's the case, then is it universal or does it refer to only the planet????!??!?

I'm thinking too hard
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Ok so a lot to unpack here. IMO when IZ says hes gonna destroy the world he means "the world" as in "society" which is consistent since the fanbook states his thirds brings death to everyone on the continent and the fact that he uses the word "sekkai" which could mean society as well. Despite that tho I do think IZ is planetary regardless but it's for different reasons.
 
DAblue9k said:
Ok so a lot to unpack here. IMO when IZ says hes gonna destroy the world he means "the world" as in "society" which is consistent since the fanbook states his thirds brings death to everyone on the continent and the fact that he uses the word "sekkai" which could mean society as well. Despite that tho I do think IZ is planetary regardless but it's for different reasons.
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oh so you have the fabook, that smooths a lot of things out
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
The black ball isnt calculable since Zero stated that it ignores any physical force, so we are limited by the environmental destruction caused

I tried to use KE with the black ball, but the result was 5-A, something that wouldn't make sense
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I had my friend calc it a while back and he got 2 exatons iirc.
 
DAblue9k said:
Yea I have the whole book digitally and have most of the relevant stuff translated.
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Very nice. I mean, if Innocent Zero were to bring death to everyone, then it could just mean he blows everything up-
Any other potential stuff for powerscaling? Maybe Seconds and Thirds have multipliers?
 
AnAverageUsername said:
damn, was hoping to turn concrete into steel
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Here's what the fanbook says about IZ's thirds
"サーズは世界を呑み込まん と飛来する、 暗黒の小惑星。 かつて乱世を治めた闇の神 の力が、世を破壊する力へ。"

"Thirds is a dark asteroid that approaches, aiming to engulf the world. The power of the dark god who once ruled the chaotic era now transforms into a power that will destroy the world."
 
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