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Yes, Secondths/Summons and Thirds are 10x multipliers due to being superior to Lance's sectional Graviole, which overcame a 10x difference in magic power, yada yada yada
Balls of death is sadly existence erasure bfr dark magic shit
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MASHLE: Magic and Muscles Discussion Thread
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Is it strange that a baseless statement that is miles above anything represented within the series is accepted within the scaling?
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Komoto reaaaally loves to use statements. A lot.
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Hey King, what about this? Clearest shot we will ever get
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Great feat inbound
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Baseless meaning there’s no evidence backing up the claim. There’s no supporting evidence outside of the claim itself.
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The wizard literally says about his own personal spell "You can't use a tenth of your power" and Dot saying "He managed to make the power difference disappear"
Like come on bro, youre better than that
Like come on bro, youre better than that
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I just want the profiles to look nice
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Lol 
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LoK linked the CRT to the multipliers, likely assuming you were talking about them. They then proceeded to explain why the multipliers are valid. If you mean something else, best to say it.
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So uh
How we feeling about Lightning speed Mash?
lol
How we feeling about Lightning speed Mash?
lol
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Im referring to the country level statement, not any multipliers.
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I think once the verse blows up they’ll be a lot of changes on the profiles. Outliers seem to not exist here anymore and holy shit, being directly stated slower than sound and then being FTL randomly is insane.
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No I actually agree with the country level stuff as in the direct translation it literally says destroy a country
RN the best (Solid) speed feat we have is the Punch^2 which even lowballing gives MHS speeds which is more in line with the statements this chapter
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It is not to be used since theres a lot of buffed feats. The translation is probably also wrong
There was also a CRT
Except that the part about being slower than sound is for characters astronomically inferior to UFM. I respect the author's idea, the profiles follow such
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It could also be an expression as well instead of literal
However I still think we need to find the raws for this
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FTL stuff mainly comes from the UPM bucket blitz. Whether or not its wrong, IDK im no math wizard, that's just what's being used. And I don't necesarilly think it could be an outlier, considering it would only scale to God Tiers like UPM Mash, Doom, and anyone who can fight 50%+ Doom without getting blitzed. Eh....
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OPM moment
Yeah, that would be best. While most of Nova's (the official Mashle Viz translator) translations are correct, some are off like the statement about all of the brothers being equal or superior to Wahlberg.
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Yeah, thats what I was thinking. Especially considering the fight against Rhyo
Like, I understand that Hajime doesn't want to follow the laws of physics and how light really works seeing Rhyo's battle, but it's ******* weird that he imagines that a character who throws light beams and is able to create a ball of light that simulates the sun isn't at least SoL
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Yeah I'm aware where that value comes from I'm just saying there's a a million different ways that feat can be calculated.
The punch^2 however is very straightforward comparatively
I feel like we should have that as a backup in case Komoto decides to pull a JJK
I'm saying they could very well be FTL
Yeah I was rubbing my head that chapter after that statement
I kinda coped by thinking that he was referring to his weakened self as being weaker than them but a mistranslation makes way more sense
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I though Ryo's beams didn't meet the requirement based on him being able to move them around
I'm fine with it either way tho
Light Speed makes more sense
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Yeah, that's probably simpler to calculate
What goes on in there, I only watched the first season
I know, I was just referencing OPM since I hear jokes about Garou stating "as tough as a mountain", like how the "lightning speed" stuff is said in Mashle. Man speed in Mashle cant catch a break
Yeah, Wahlberg, the one who could originally take on IZ back in their younger days, and almost killed IZ with his Thirds had the latter not used time reversal, being only equal to Domina. The raws apparently state that the brothers are only "each of the worlds top wizards" when put through a translation machine.
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Based MargaretteMargarette Macaroon
Margarette Macaroon is the Prefect of the Orca Dorm, and was one of the antagonists and later supporting character in the Divine Visionary Selection Exam arc and onward. First shown in the series being given an offer from Orter Mádle to take down Mash Burnedead, she is stopped by Rayne Ames...
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Yes, they don't follow, I'm just thinking from the author's perspective
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Basically after multiple supersonic feats and after God-Tiers had demonstrated Lightning dodging capabilities he decided to make a villian blitz them all with a speed of Mach 3
He even commentated in later chapter how he ****** it up
Now basically everyone in the verse is getting tanked to Subsonic+ to Transonic
I see
Makes way more sense
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Tbf, it wouldn't affect the scaling too much, at best would open doors for a possible upgrade to Whalberg
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Ouch. Imagine Mashle's speed if Margarette didn't exist.
It does.
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Of course it doesn't change much, besides an upgrade for Wahlberg. It wouldn't make sense for Wahlberg to only be High 6-C in Base, especially when he's stated to be the "world's top wizard", meaning he'd likely scaled above Orter or maybe Ryoh.
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He would be 6-B at base actually, since the translation makes him somewhat comparable to Domina, just a little weaker
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Oh, right. Well, Ryoh calls himself "soon to become the top magic user in the world", and then says even Wahlberg's earned his respect. Then Necros Mace says that Wahlberg is at the top now.
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Rhyo is said to be the greatest wizard in the world at least 5 times in the series. Whalberg simple has his respect, nothing more
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I know, thats why I said maybe in reference to possibly scaling above Ryoh. But what about Orter? He's only said to have the potential to be at the top of the world, so wouldn't it be reasonable for Wahlberg to scale to Orter or above? Because at that point he'd still be stomped by current IZ, so there wouldn't be that much of a discrepancy.
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Its fine to agree with it but many people, including people who may agree with the scaling, would tend to believe it’s an outlierish statement. Considering its the only statement of its kind with no supporting feats it makes it hand to consider reliable.
Iirc squared punches isn’t quantifiable right?
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The calc itself is mathematically fine, I’m just pointing out the inconsistency and the giant boost in speed with no feats in the middle.
Mash went from 2,401 m/s to 10,614,726,170.4 m/s in 2 chapters.
That’s a 4,420,960.5x difference.
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Well you see, UPM is Mash's pinnacle. When he has his weights on, he's holding back, but without them, he's unleashing his full power (but still subconsciously holding back THANKS DOOM FOR THE STATEMENT NOW MASH HAS TO HAVE A VARIED TIER), so eh?
Maybe Punch² can be quantified by finding the average time of a punch, maybe the top speed of a punch ever recorded since Mash is superhuman, taking the amount of times Mash punches, and then combining them
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I can understand this and willing to agree he should be a large amount superior to his base state, but 2,000,000 times faster? Not because of a statement, but a one time feat which is infinitely above anything represented within the series. I just find it hard not to consider such as an outlier.
I don’t think we can do it like that unfortunately.
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So? Mash is clearly astronomically faster than any hypersonic character. He can repeat a 221 meter run at least 20000 times in every instant (Which would make 4.420.960 meters) without Domina even realizing or even being able to comprehend what is happening (Someone who will be like, sub relativistic). There is no contradiction, Mash is simply that fast. There is no way to refuse this other than disbelief
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Well you see, it's only a "2,000,000"x difference with the current calc.
