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1. Throne Mercurius is not above Hajun.Infera28 said:
2. Hajun didn't see Yatou as threat. He saw him as shit, and he can't differentiate him from other shit.
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Masadaverse Discussion thread 25
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2. Hajun didn't see Yatou as threat. He saw him as shit, and he can't differentiate him from other shit.
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And yet Naraka can't do shit to Shouko (Amaterasu) right now, right? So it does prove (for at least, now) that Hadou God SITTING ON THE THRONE is superior to Naraka. Otherwise he wouldn't need observers for "helping guiding in the direction of the succession". Otherwise, Naraka would just litteraly stomp Mercurius, Marie or Hajun from the start. You don't need someone to do it for you, you just flick them out of existence and that's it, job done. You are talking about the states the GODS are in pantheon or its prologue, which we have no freaking idea of. At best, it would become a different key of themselves, not a downgrade of Hadou Gods' superiority.Infera28 said:
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but didn't Throne Mercurius erased Hajun from all possiblities and impossiblities?Trexalfa29 said:
and about second part as stated in Habaki profile:
Outerverse level (After being boosted by Haju and the Tumor, Habaki gained an immense power boost, allowing him to keep up and fight evenly against Tenma Yato. His power is forever increasing, eventually gaining enough strength to destroy Yato in a single hit)
why Hajun boosted Habaki for defeating Yato?
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but didn't Throne Mercurius erased Hajun from all possiblities and impossiblities?
He erased pre-atziluth Hajun. He erased everything that could ever lead to him being born again and taking the throne.
He erased pre-atziluth Hajun. He erased everything that could ever lead to him being born again and taking the throne.
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@Infera
Why don't you just leave it alone, sit down, and wait for the damn thing to be released, or don't use it at all?
This is why I think all the talks of Pantheon are shitty and shouldn't be brought up in any rating discussion regarding Masadaverse; we have literally next to no information on it, and it always leads to circular arguments that get messy real quick.
Why don't you just leave it alone, sit down, and wait for the damn thing to be released, or don't use it at all?
This is why I think all the talks of Pantheon are shitty and shouldn't be brought up in any rating discussion regarding Masadaverse; we have literally next to no information on it, and it always leads to circular arguments that get messy real quick.
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Wasn't Pantheon cancelled? I've heard that Masada went bankrupt or smth so they had to cancel any upcoming games
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So it might come out? Well I suppose after waiting for another game it wouldn't make sense to throw in the towel yet
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Snake's law is likely the strongest law of them all. He trolled Naraka for god knows how many years lol.GogitoQ said:
@TonySansNom It's been stated like 4-5 times that Naraka is an existence higher than Hadou gods and they can't even grasp his true nature, this is not just Naraka w@ank Beast and Merc also stated such thing. Dude can trap Hajun but he can't mess with Aamatrasu so I think he's bonded by his oath to the throne or something
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1-It's most likely a recton in Pantheon since Merc and Beast were trashing the throne timespace in Dies Irae but Naraka is seemingly >>> All Hadou gods in PantheonInfera28 said:
2-I Agree, the differnce between Hajun and Yato is big but not THAT big considering Yato was able to hold off his law for 8000+ years and even pushed it back when he reached his peak
Sadly I don't know much about the Tenmas.
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Can you stop using Pantheon please, we know nothing about it and until it comes out it shouldn't be used. if it ever comes out :'v
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I mean, it is the same reason why the EE manages to even make it to Haun, it's because they all are trash to him to the point of picking a shit cleaner instead of killin everybody himself.
Hw was more busy taking all the infinite trash (souls) clinging up to him
Hw was more busy taking all the infinite trash (souls) clinging up to him
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Hajun just knows there's something preventing shit from beginningkilling themselves. That's why he hijacks Yakou who, without his "mark" (Tengan), is just another piece of ***** he can't differentiate from the others. The boosts to Habaki and co are through TUMOR Mandala. It's the Tumor's influence leaking Hajun's spare power to them, Hajun can only indirectly influence them through that and their connection to his Law. And this Mandala is deployed by Tumor, not Hajun. Yatou was no threat, he was mere pebble in his way blocking his Law's completion: and without said completion, the shit staining Hajun's body wouldn't go away.
And please, if Ren could stand so much against Hajun is because of his special defensive nature and thanks to Rea stabilizing his world. Masada confirmed that had Snake or Kemono-dono survived, who weren't weaker than Ren at the time, they would have been instantly crushed. Ren has the most outstanding defense out of all Gods.
Till Saoshyant Desatir we only knew of Throne's outer layer. It's likely that's what mention of the Throne till now has refered to. Naraka and his colleagues reside in much deeper layer, and the one Gods are kept prisoner in can contain all of them and their Thrones simultaneously. That is, all Throne outer layers are contained there, being able to crush Suigin's Throne (Fight with Kemono-dono, Throne is the dimension with seemingly infinitude of stars) or cut Hajun's Throne (Huge Mandala, Soujirou can cut it) seems insignificant in comparison to be able to affect deeper layers.
And please, if Ren could stand so much against Hajun is because of his special defensive nature and thanks to Rea stabilizing his world. Masada confirmed that had Snake or Kemono-dono survived, who weren't weaker than Ren at the time, they would have been instantly crushed. Ren has the most outstanding defense out of all Gods.
Till Saoshyant Desatir we only knew of Throne's outer layer. It's likely that's what mention of the Throne till now has refered to. Naraka and his colleagues reside in much deeper layer, and the one Gods are kept prisoner in can contain all of them and their Thrones simultaneously. That is, all Throne outer layers are contained there, being able to crush Suigin's Throne (Fight with Kemono-dono, Throne is the dimension with seemingly infinitude of stars) or cut Hajun's Throne (Huge Mandala, Soujirou can cut it) seems insignificant in comparison to be able to affect deeper layers.
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Make me :^)
I mean, only like 5 people actually know their shit with KKK so we can't really talk about it without going with our own speculations.
As for Avesta, we all wish that.
I mean, only like 5 people actually know their shit with KKK so we can't really talk about it without going with our own speculations.
As for Avesta, we all wish that.
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This is pretty irrelevant but isn't Reinhard's Yetzirah named Vere filius Dei erat iste; Longinuslanze Testament and not just Longinuslanze Testament? I remember Mercurius chanting this after Reinhard said "Yetzirah" (I think it was on Kei's route). It translates to "Truly that [man] was the son of God."
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so by this theres layers to the throne and the going to much deeper is naraka which contains all the gods and their own thrones?Trexalfa29 said:
as for the first two summarization i still dont see yatou could even stop hajun even though hajun couldnt give attention to yato. I can see why the implication of Ren having the best defense
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if u have any concrete evidence of this please say so.ZERO7772 said:
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right the same profiles of masadaverse that are actually outdated and going on revisions, and i've never seen someone that has READ K3 said anything regards to whether hajun in the flashback when he fought 3 of them is stronger than he was in K3 throughout.
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Hajun after inheriting all of Marie's souls is explicitly weaker than Hajun when he was by himself. It's literally his entire schtick, his narcissism inverts the way he works: while normal Hadou Gods get more powerful the more souls they have, the Hadou-Gudou Hajun gets weaker as he is focusing on shit not himself. The closer his Craving gets to completion, the stronger he is.
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if you're talking about if he sits on the throne vs when he doesnt sit on the throne sure bcuz he's weaker when he's a throne god compare to when he isnt a throne god due to souls (reverse hadou status).
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which i wasnt wrong what i said before trex basically said what i siad regards to throne hajun vs non throne hajun.
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And Trex just debunked you
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obviously the comment i sent was seconds late of course you would see that as "debunk" when i posted the same message it was in the time frame regardless.
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Ill say this about the Yato vs Hajun stuff, if Hajun truely saw Yato as lower trash then even if he slowed and even pushed back the law some Hajun would just see that as futile attempts by the weak to stop something that will eventually happen.
Hajun is arrogant enough to think that no matter how hard the Trash pushed back he knew his Law would still eventually go through and destroy everything.
As for the why did he make a Trash Cleaner and Boost Habaki, his whole thing is trash should beat trash so rather then take on the trash himself hed just make some other trash stronger so they can deal with it and he can focus on himself instead of getting involved.
(Now I could be wrong but thats just my thoughts on the matter)
Hajun is arrogant enough to think that no matter how hard the Trash pushed back he knew his Law would still eventually go through and destroy everything.
As for the why did he make a Trash Cleaner and Boost Habaki, his whole thing is trash should beat trash so rather then take on the trash himself hed just make some other trash stronger so they can deal with it and he can focus on himself instead of getting involved.
(Now I could be wrong but thats just my thoughts on the matter)
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regardless yato even had his futile efforts trying to get through hajuns singularity which he couldnt do no matter how much he dug deeper into it. Hajun just couldnt careless.PsychoWarper said:
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AFAIK is because he lost the thing that was pissing him off and thus losing power, cuz there was nothing "touching him" at that point.
But I may be mixing/creating things so let's wait for Trex.
But I may be mixing/creating things so let's wait for Trex.
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tumor is his source of this "immeasurable taiji"Infera28 said:
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basically^
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