Marvel's Spider-Man (Insomniac) Miles feat re-calculation

[Ednaxel2]

Currently top tiers of the verse are High 7-C due to Miles' feat of absorbing the nuform reactor via his bioelecticity, which can destroy all of Harlem:

Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales - Harlem Destruction

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However this value is even higher. Due to a single canister of nuform being able to power Harlem for 500 years, that equates to 7-B energy, and the nuform reactor is powered by a canister:

Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales - Harlem Destruction (Revised)

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This makes Miles' feat 7-B, and anyone who's currently High 7-C, 7-B.

 

[Robo432343]

 

[GrayCraft_Dragon]

Now that's a massive different! Peak fr

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

This should work.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Seems straightforward enough.

 

[Dalesean027]

Agreed ofc

 

[Ednaxel2]

Bump

 

[SlendVeny]

Agree

 

[Ednaxel2]

Bump

 

[Dalesean027]

@Emirp sumitpo @Golden_Void

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

This is fine

 

[Golden_Void]

This makes Miles' feat 7-B, and anyone who's currently High 7-C, 7-B.

It makes Miles 7-B at overloaded capacity. It does not make him 7-B across the board. Nuform-loaded Miles scales to nobody.

Secondly, why are the changes already on the profile and with grammatical errors?

Third, there will be no changes to scaling until the current scaling is addressed. Anyone scaling from this wouldn't even make sense.

 

[Ednaxel2]

It makes Miles 7-B at overloaded capacity. It does not make him 7-B across the board. Nuform-loaded Miles scales to nobody.

I haven't seen the other profiles for a while and mis-remembered them as High 7-C via Miles' feat. I only noticed that when I saw Peter's profile. No one else is currently 7-B only him

Secondly, why are the changes already on the profile and with grammatical errors?

The changes are on the profile because this got enough staff agreements and enough time passed. The only error I found was the calc value being wrong on the verse page but otherwise there's none to my knowledge

Third, there will be no changes to scaling until the current scaling is addressed. Anyone scaling from this wouldn't even make sense.

I agree with Peter not scaling to Miles base to base but this CRT doesn't affect that? Again no one scales to 7-B other than Miles, something I've mistakenly said in the OP

 

[Golden_Void]

I haven't seen the other profiles for a while and mis-remembered them as High 7-C via Miles' feat. I only noticed that when I saw Peter's profile. No one else is currently 7-B only him

The changes are on the profile because this got enough staff agreements and enough time passed. The only error I found was the calc value being wrong on the verse page but otherwise there's none to my knowledge

I agree with Peter not scaling to Miles base to base but this CRT doesn't affect that? Again no one scales to 7-B other than Miles, something I've mistakenly said in the OP

For future reference, just read points 2 and 3.

That said, I don't think Miles should have venom tied to his durability either. His AP should read "with venom" and not energy absorption (or with venom, higher via energy absorption).

Variable durability based on energy absorption would mean that Miles's biology would essentially be getting passive multipliers based on how much electricity he is holding, which isn't true. More filled venom bars means a stronger venom attack, not increased base physicals. His venom is doing the heavy lifting, and his punches are the same, physically. That much is clear when his punching Sandman in his chest doesn't make a mark until it blows up. Also, a battery doesn't get any less durable if it's completely discharged, so that durability scheme doesn't make sense.




Suggestion: Varies, up to x with Venom. Remove variable durability.

 

[Ednaxel2]

For future reference, just read points 2 and 3.

point 2 doesn't seem to apply to insomniac, I think? It's not that popular of a verse on vsbw (in comparison to like DMC or the MCU) but sure on point 3

That said, I don't think Miles should have venom tied to his durability either. His AP should read "with venom" and not energy absorption (or with venom, higher via energy absorption).

Variable durability based on energy absorption would mean that Miles's biology would essentially be getting passive multipliers based on how much electricity he is holding, which isn't true. More filled venom bars means a stronger venom attack, not increased base physicals. His venom is doing the heavy lifting, and his punches are the same, physically. That much is clear when his punching Sandman in his chest doesn't make a mark until it blows up. Also, a battery doesn't get any less durable if it's completely discharged, so that durability scheme doesn't make sense.




Suggestion: Varies, up to x with Venom. Remove variable durability.

Seems fine, I was confused on Venom increasing durability and thought it was just something treated as a UES lol

 

[Ednaxel2]

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[Ednaxel2]

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Do you agree with the additional changes to Miles’ profile that Golden Void proposes?

 

[Ednaxel2]

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[Ednaxel2]

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[Ednaxel2]

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[Dalesean027]

Why is this even still open? Its got 2 staff approvals and wasn't it already applied?

 

[Golden_Void]

Why is this even still open? Its got 2 staff approvals and wasn't it already applied?

So we can add the quick changes I mentioned above. OP can add them now truthfully; they're straightforward.

 

[Ednaxel2]

So we can add the quick changes I mentioned above. OP can add them now truthfully; they're straightforward.

I will but quick question

If Venom can't enhance Miles' durability then how can he tank Low 7-C attacks from symbiote Peter and Venom? Unless we'll just make him Low 7-C normally in the other thread

 

[Golden_Void]

I will but quick question

If Venom can't enhance Miles' durability then how can he tank Low 7-C attacks from symbiote Peter and Venom? Unless we'll just make him Low 7-C normally in the other thread

I didn't say it doesn't enhance his durability, I said his stats don't fluctuate based on how much power he is currently holding. A battery designed to hold 7-B energy doesn't become 9-B in durability if it is only holding 9-B energy.

That said, Miles likens his ability to static electricity, meaning he's discharging the electricity rather than exploding from overcharging, which would/should inherently damage Miles in the process. Unless everyone wants to treat Miles like a bomb even though his mega venom blast does no damage to himself, just others.

Also, it's because Miles got stronger thanks to his interactions with Martin Li, which is why he goes from getting clapped by Kraven to one-shotting him while he was fighting Peter, then going on to fight Peter.

 

[Dalesean027]

Also Miles is 8-A+ physically, symbiote being above him is why its low 7-C to begin with making Miles low 7-C too judt makes all the scaling circular

 

[Ednaxel2]

Also, it's because Miles got stronger thanks to his interactions with Martin Li, which is why he goes from getting clapped by Kraven to one-shotting him while he was fighting Peter, then going on to fight Peter.

Shouldn’t he have two keys then? Like pre and post Martin Li fight

 

[Golden_Void]

Also Miles is 8-A+ physically, symbiote being above him is why its low 7-C to begin with making Miles low 7-C too judt makes all the scaling circular

Bruh, this is because the other thread still hasn't been resolved after months. I guess I'll just organize everything myself.

Shouldn’t he have two keys then? Like pre and post Martin Li fight

Don't worry about that, just apply the revision.

 

[Ednaxel2]

Don't worry about that, just apply the revision.

Its been applied and this thread should probably be closed