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Mario Speed Downgrade
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I didn't say he was. I just didn't appreciate it. Doesn't matter.....in the end, the conditions for infinite speed makes no sense......at all.
I didn't say he was. I just didn't appreciate it. Doesn't matter.....in the end, the conditions for infinite speed makes no sense......at all.
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Existing in a place where time itself doesn't exist...doesn't prove timelessness?
...What? No, seriously. No offense, but that's like saying existing in a place without the concept of bananas doesn't prove you can exist without bananas.
...What? No, seriously. No offense, but that's like saying existing in a place without the concept of bananas doesn't prove you can exist without bananas.
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I understand. One can believe certain void feats tend to be PIS or outlierish, but denying that they make your speed infinite is a no-no.
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I mean existing in a place that, by definition, doesn't exist, is completely illogical and impossible. Yet we pick out the logical conclusion that being without time in such a void is possible and give infinite speed.Kepekley23 said:
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A void being timeless doesn't make it non-existent.
Besides, it isn't illogical. We use paraconsistent logic for contradictory and paradoxical feats.
Besides, it isn't illogical. We use paraconsistent logic for contradictory and paradoxical feats.
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Again with this paraconsistent garbage. Paraconsistency violates everything that classical logic presents and how the world works.
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Except the basis of paraconsistent logic stems from Aristotle.
You desperately need to stop treating philosophy like science or astronomy, where there are 100% unanimously factual theories like Evolution and the Big Bang. Doesn't work like that in philosophy.
You desperately need to stop treating philosophy like science or astronomy, where there are 100% unanimously factual theories like Evolution and the Big Bang. Doesn't work like that in philosophy.
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Exactly that. Philosophy isn't a hard science with facts that cannot be questioned. And even in hard science those facts are falsifiable
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Philosophy was the original science it should be noted as even Physics, Chemistry, and other sciences originated as theories before they were even proven facts. But I agree with Matt and Kep regarding the topic.
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It seems whether they should be downgraded is quite controversial. Should a staff-only thread be made or is this thread sufficient?
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^^What the others said.
No offense, but I think Assalt is making Philosophy-based assumptions that have nothing to do with this. Philosophy cannot be upplied to these contexts, at all.
Mainly because it is generally a way to see things from a "spiritual" and "mental" point of view. Philosophy is the study of general and fundamental problems concerning matters such as existence, knowledge, values, reason, mind, consciousness, balance and language. Philosophical methods include questioning, critical discussion, rational arguments, and systematic presentation. Classic philosophical questions include: Is it possible to know anything and to prove it? What is most real? Philosophers also pose more practical and concrete questions such as: Is there a best way to live? Is it better to be just or unjust (if one can get away with it)? Do humans have free will?
Just to make some examples. It has nothing to do with this and cannot be used as an argument against DRB's one, at all.
No offense, but I think Assalt is making Philosophy-based assumptions that have nothing to do with this. Philosophy cannot be upplied to these contexts, at all.
Mainly because it is generally a way to see things from a "spiritual" and "mental" point of view. Philosophy is the study of general and fundamental problems concerning matters such as existence, knowledge, values, reason, mind, consciousness, balance and language. Philosophical methods include questioning, critical discussion, rational arguments, and systematic presentation. Classic philosophical questions include: Is it possible to know anything and to prove it? What is most real? Philosophers also pose more practical and concrete questions such as: Is there a best way to live? Is it better to be just or unjust (if one can get away with it)? Do humans have free will?
Just to make some examples. It has nothing to do with this and cannot be used as an argument against DRB's one, at all.
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Well, as far as I understand, Assaltwaffle was mainly arguing for that any Low 2-C character and above should not gain automatic infinite speed, due to being able to destroy universal space-time, and that Dimentio's speed rating may rely on an unproven assumption.
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Well, I do agree with Assalt on that concept. Having a 4-D degree of power does Not automatically grant Infinite speed yes. And simply moving inside a timeless void is generally considered hax rather than speed yes. But if a character is by lore described as being one with the void; or basically semi-omnipresent within the void, that's usually infinite speed Same with literally merging with the void. IIRC, the Chaos Heart does specifically say that whoever possesses it becomes one with the void; which does sounds like merging with the void if you ask me.
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It was stated that. It was also stated that the Void won't be destroyed unless the Dark One with the Chaos Heart falls. Still, i'm curious. How is moving in a timeless void hax? Is it Resistance to Time Stop?
IIRC, one should have Resistance to Time Stop only when the character is the one who stop time. Moving in a placer where time doesn't flow thus the dimension of time doesn't exist (for that single moment though) is an Infinite Speed feat, IIRC.
IIRC, one should have Resistance to Time Stop only when the character is the one who stop time. Moving in a placer where time doesn't flow thus the dimension of time doesn't exist (for that single moment though) is an Infinite Speed feat, IIRC.
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Bump
Since most members agreed to this, can it be applied?
Since most members agreed to this, can it be applied?
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Scaling to Mario as Paper Mario and him are the same being.
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