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Mario fodder Speed and LS changes + some small profile revisions
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Only magikoopas can perform that feat
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How come
Lou_change
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why not we already accept that basic Mario enemies scale to each other.
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But they can vary in speed, assuming all are comparable would be arbitrary
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It is a species composite and even if that is the case we already have a standard in place that makes it so we don't list it as variable.
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Why would every fodder scale to one another? They're comparable in Party but can get easily defeated in other games. They should vary
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it is a species composite we ignore outliers for those
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Why would they be outliers? They're regular boos/ dry bones. Its not just the ones from party too, Hyper Goombas are a threat to Mario, there's the captain goomba, then there's goombas who can transform into Bowser and are just as powerful as him, they can survive Mario's fireballs. Goombas are also a threat to Toad Monty Moles are considered a threat to the main cast and can harm them in that game, there's a lot of bob-ombs that are threats to the cast
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The resemble normal members but they have different feats
Why should anyone scale to that and it doesn't even say that at best it is somewhat implied
For some reason we ignore all his good feats also not a normal goomba
The transformation likely made them stronger.
Is that even the main toad, can I have a scan for the moles
honestly bob-omb explosions should probably scale a lot higher than they do currently
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They have different feats which is exactly why they should have a varies tier
Hyper Goombas scale to that, its not just implied, both Goombella and Goombario say that Mario has to watch out for their attack. And they can tell how strong an enemy is accurately
He is a regular goomba that trained
Yes and the mole scan is in the calc
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I believe the standard is they are exceptional members until proven otherwise
compared to Mario I am not sure also that seems like giving the tutorial character fourth wall awareness which isn't something we do often.
the guy fought Fawful, the Koopalings, Bowser Jr., and Private Goomba he known to have a large amount of "minion spirit" which in game allows for the special attack so he is a unique case.
Toad is known to be cowardly so he could be exaggerating and which calc Mario strikers because that is definitely not the case
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They are exceptional members, which is why the species gets a varies tier
What tutorial character? Those aren't tutorial characters
Yeah and a regular goomba if trained enough should be able to do the same thing
Toad is not that cowardly what are you talking about? There's a monty mole that can take hits from Mario. Here's the Monty Mole harming the cast members. It wouldn't make sense if that was a game mechanic since its a gameplay ability he has
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we don't include exceptional members on species pages they are considered separate no I can not explain why.
many games have a character that explains how to play by mentioning buttons that do not exist in universe most of these characters don't get fourth wall awareness tho and both these characters break the fourth wall meaning the could be talking about gameplay mechanics.
Yes technically any normal human might be able to reach Saitama's in his verse but none should scale still
most Monty moles don't explode like that one and the mole knocked her over in a party game
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But those are regular boos/dry bones
Neither goombario nor goombella are tutorial characters. Their tattle entries aren't gameplay mechanics, its literally in game dialogue
So?
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In fact they should probably be higher for holding those balls in their mouth ( that sounds extremely wrong ) and still moving around just fine.
Also, that Chain Chomp feat is just good agility/jumping, I wouldn't really call it flight.
Though I do think that they will float away in some games if you take the chain off via ground pounding, but I'm not sure, I'm planning on maybe playing those games again to refresh my memory.
Also I don't know if they already have this, but I think hitting them with ice balls doesn't work either, even though said ice and fireballs can stop/hurt Bowser, if I recall correctly. So that's resistance to Fire and Ice Manip.
Actually, this may be Bowser him self just using his Black Magic on them. We know that he turned various citizens of Mushroom Kingdom into the bricks floating throughout the air. And other characters like Kamek can turn blocks into Koopas. And he has his feat of mimicking Yoshi's Flutter Jump listed as Acrobatics, when it should double as possible Power Mimicry.
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