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Maou Gakuin Discussion Thread
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i know, but I hate the fact that newly reincarnated Anos is only 7B. That's why I have done the calc.
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This has no sence...
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Then atleast 7B, likely 6B.(This has no sence...
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Okay. "At least 7-A" means he is likely higher than 7-A. Giving him "At least 7-A" is mostly reasonable, since it's between his solid 7-B and his potentially solid High 7-A.
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Why are we arbitrarily keeping the 7-B though? If he has a clear cut Tier 6 feat there is no reason to remove the 7-B.
We also cant just assume its 7-A.
We also cant just assume its 7-A.
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And why should we remove the 7-B when it will completely mess up the mid tiers' scaling?
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Because the 7-B feat wont exist anymore since he will be 6-B.
You can argue Lay is 7-B, likely 6-B since the force of his attacks blew up mountains (7-B) and he could keep up with Anos (6-B). He is still weaker than Anos so 7-B is fine for him in this case.
But Anos himself should just be whatever new tier he gets.
You can argue Lay is 7-B, likely 6-B since the force of his attacks blew up mountains (7-B) and he could keep up with Anos (6-B). He is still weaker than Anos so 7-B is fine for him in this case.
But Anos himself should just be whatever new tier he gets.
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Wut? The 7-B feat is the clash between Anos and Lay and some other feats listed in a previous CRT. It does still exist.
Lay would also be the only one who could scale to "7-B, likely X", since the mid tiers don't have feats past tier 7.
Making Anos "At least 7-B, likely 6-B" would make scaling much easier.
Also, Anos didn't actually perform his 6-B feat while being Newly Reincarnated, so we're just assuming him being half-asleep scales to his newly reincarnated self.
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I don't know if this is relevant or not, but just in case; In regards to the 7-B feat where the clashes between Anos and Lay destroyed mountains, that feat was mostly Anos. Anos was striking Lay with immense power while Lay was skillfully deflecting the force of the blow, of course, Lay is still fairly strong, but not even on a casual Anos' level.
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Any tier 6 can perform tier 7 feats casually. That doesnt mean we should give them tier 7 keys.
We can scale the others from Lay just fine, Anos dont strictly need to be Tier 7 for that.
Good catch. The CRT shouldnt be a thing then, since both the lake feat and geo graze comes from Suppressed Anos at this point, who is already 5-A
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Maybe I misunderstood what you meant then..? I thought you meant that he didn't perform a 7-B feat, but he definitely has 7-B feats.
Did you mean that because he might've been 6-B while performing the 7-B feats, he shouldn't be scaled to 7-B even tho the destruction was only 7-B?
I guess we could probably scale the mid tiers to Lay, but wouldn't that mean Lay loses his 5-A rating?
The Jio Graze lake feat is definitely from a suppressed Anos.
I'm not sure about the Jio Graze country feat, but assuming a half-asleep suppressed Anos = newly reincarnated Anos would kind of be a big assumption.
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Yes, since he'd be Tier 6 in that case.
Lay is all over the place. He fought evenly against Newly Reincarnated and Suppressed Anos (which kinda dont make sense? Maybe he got massively stronger over a small timeframe or Shuu did an oopsie)
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Oh okay... That makes sense. Sorry, I misunderstood what you meant before.
I was also wondering about this...
Lay fights a 7-B, so he gets 7-B.
Lay then fights a 5-A, so he gets 5-A.
Lay then gets injured by 7-B attacks, but he stays 5-A?
I think the author actually tried to keep the various characters' power at Tier 7/6 before the Silver Sea, and vsbw making a 5-A calc, something the author probably didn't anticipate, kinda messes with his own scaling for his story.
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During Lay and Anos' first fight, neither was serious whatsoever, and Lay was wielding a shitty sword while Anos was wielding a stick. During their second fight, they still weren't going all-out. During their third fight, Lay was wielding Evansmana, a sword which possesses more magic power than the God of Time, and was going all out, while Anos was suppressed.
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Thing is, we see Lay visibly hurting Newly Reincarmated Anos during the sword tournament (and even cut off the latter's arm with a sword that wasnt evansmana). 7-B feat.
And in the third fight, he endured multiple attacks from 5-A Anos.
It doesnt fit if you ask me.
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Anos gets his 5-A from moving the moon, right?
I definitely think it messes with the author's own scaling for his story, since that clearly isn't a creation or destruction feat like the other feats in Maou Gakuin.
I'm not saying we should remove Lay's 5-A, but ^this could explain the random inconsistency in the verse.
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You have to keep in mind, the author isn't thinking of VsB scaling when writing his story. Anos' body is very durable, but it can still be injured by powerful attacks, especially from weapons.
As for Anos' third fight against Lay, I think you're taking the scaling a bit too literally. Anos wasn't using "5-A" attacks against Lay. And he was still easily overwhelming Lay. The moon calc just proves that Anos' physical strength is at least 5-A level, and Anos was obviously overpowering Lay physical strength wise.
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@Oblivion_Of_The_Endless , Anos vapourised a holy lake which is calced by me as high 7A.
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That feat is from his suppressed state which is already 5-A though
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Ok then check this:
See the two images, Anos' head destroyed the demonic sword Gadol, whichhas said to slpit a mountain range. And this is newly reincarnated, when Anos and Lay defeat 2 demon emperors who were about to teach them sword fighting.
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Can you maybe reduce the image size of those screenshots?
You could alternatively just put a link to WN Chapter 38 or something similar.
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My bad, I mean mountain rangeHlw,Gados splitted a mountain range not a mountain, pls see to it.
And Still ends up not to far from I said above it
Rather than this feats, it would be good if we Disccused about holy lake vaporization
But you can still add 7-B possibly 7-A or H7A to lay and someone who scales to it with gaios feats
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Working on it.
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Does anyone know if there are EPUBs for all or even most of WN?
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He has though. With <Veneziara>, his magic fluctuates through probability. So yes.
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Looks like Reality Warping too
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just realized he already had it lol
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Well, he can distort Reality, so yes
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We need to make Aberneyu and Militia profiles 
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This is my opinion from what I've read.
Newly Reincarnated Anos: 7B; likely [Whatever tier is accepted] (Due to tanking a Gaios' sword, which can split a mountain range in two, with ease.)
Lay would probably scale to this due to being able to hurt Anos during the tournament. (Though you could argue this is due to Anos being drained from his magic power.)
The vaporizing the lake feat is not for Newly Reincarnated Anos since it's during Volume 3.
Newly Reincarnated Anos: 7B; likely [Whatever tier is accepted] (Due to tanking a Gaios' sword, which can split a mountain range in two, with ease.)
Lay would probably scale to this due to being able to hurt Anos during the tournament. (Though you could argue this is due to Anos being drained from his magic power.)
The vaporizing the lake feat is not for Newly Reincarnated Anos since it's during Volume 3.
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Pls
I will be doing the calc regarding Anos tanking an attack from Gadol, Also it should be in the range high 7A to 6C. On Sunday, I shall post the blog here and it will be confirmed by a calc member.
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Just add the name besides Misha and sasha.
We have other profiles yet to be made other than them.
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yeah agree
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Yeah, that would be key rather than new profile
But their profiles would also Important to the pre silver sea scalling, so i guess I'll gather the feats
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I'd like to add that Anos' durability doesn't increase throughout the series.
