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Maou Gakuin Discussion Thread

I have some questions about the plot manipulation in MGK and Castelvania.
I decided to take a look at the latest Plot Hax thread for MGK and Plot Hax for Castelvania, and realized it's basically the same thing (just changing that one controls destiny with a book and the other the past).

-Both have one of the possible uses;
-Both affect their respective universes through a book;

The real difference between the two, and just the possible uses, while the book of Castelvania affects the future, writing a "horrible end" for the victim, affecting both the book and the Real World, the book of traces MGK's affects the past, altering events from the past, affecting both the book and the Real World. In fact, if I'm not mistaken, in Castelvania's review of Plot Manipulation, the fact that there is already a being that is destiny itself was used as "supporting evidence", and therefore it couldn't just be manipulation of destiny by the book , although in MGK there is a being that controls causality, so by logic, it couldn't just be "manipulating causality with a book" either.

So Plot Manipulation was just rejected out of injustice (literally almost everyone, with the exception of MGK's supporters, were people who constantly disagree with MGK's CRTS)?

The fact that certain people who rejected MGK's CRT accepted Castelvania's Plot Manipulation revision with just a Scan saying that writing in the book also affects the universe, a Scan that apparently makes the book and the universe "equal", and a Scan showing the book affecting reality, it just seems like a hater on MGK 😐
 
Dog3352 said:
I have some questions about the plot manipulation in MGK and Castelvania.
I decided to take a look at the latest Plot Hax thread for MGK and Plot Hax for Castelvania, and realized it's basically the same thing (just changing that one controls destiny with a book and the other the past).

-Both have one of the possible uses;
-Both affect their respective universes through a book;

The real difference between the two, and just the possible uses, while the book of Castelvania affects the future, writing a "horrible end" for the victim, affecting both the book and the Real World, the book of traces MGK's affects the past, altering events from the past, affecting both the book and the Real World. In fact, if I'm not mistaken, in Castelvania's review of Plot Manipulation, the fact that there is already a being that is destiny itself was used as "supporting evidence", and therefore it couldn't just be manipulation of destiny by the book , although in MGK there is a being that controls causality, so by logic, it couldn't just be "manipulating causality with a book" either.

So Plot Manipulation was just rejected out of injustice (literally almost everyone, with the exception of MGK's supporters, were people who constantly disagree with MGK's CRTS)?

The fact that certain people who rejected MGK's CRT accepted Castelvania's Plot Manipulation revision with just a Scan saying that writing in the book also affects the universe, a Scan that apparently makes the book and the universe "equal", and a Scan showing the book affecting reality, it just seems like a hater on MGK 😐
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Is bro trying to start a war in peaceful days?
 
Dog3352 said:
I have some questions about the plot manipulation in MGK and Castelvania.
I decided to take a look at the latest Plot Hax thread for MGK and Plot Hax for Castelvania, and realized it's basically the same thing (just changing that one controls destiny with a book and the other the past).

-Both have one of the possible uses;
-Both affect their respective universes through a book;

The real difference between the two, and just the possible uses, while the book of Castelvania affects the future, writing a "horrible end" for the victim, affecting both the book and the Real World, the book of traces MGK's affects the past, altering events from the past, affecting both the book and the Real World. In fact, if I'm not mistaken, in Castelvania's review of Plot Manipulation, the fact that there is already a being that is destiny itself was used as "supporting evidence", and therefore it couldn't just be manipulation of destiny by the book , although in MGK there is a being that controls causality, so by logic, it couldn't just be "manipulating causality with a book" either.

So Plot Manipulation was just rejected out of injustice (literally almost everyone, with the exception of MGK's supporters, were people who constantly disagree with MGK's CRTS)?

The fact that certain people who rejected MGK's CRT accepted Castelvania's Plot Manipulation revision with just a Scan saying that writing in the book also affects the universe, a Scan that apparently makes the book and the universe "equal", and a Scan showing the book affecting reality, it just seems like a hater on MGK 😐
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Book of traces can change the past? I though it was a book with all data of Miltia world
 
Dog3352 said:
I have some questions about the plot manipulation in MGK and Castelvania.
I decided to take a look at the latest Plot Hax thread for MGK and Plot Hax for Castelvania, and realized it's basically the same thing (just changing that one controls destiny with a book and the other the past).

-Both have one of the possible uses;
-Both affect their respective universes through a book;

The real difference between the two, and just the possible uses, while the book of Castelvania affects the future, writing a "horrible end" for the victim, affecting both the book and the Real World, the book of traces MGK's affects the past, altering events from the past, affecting both the book and the Real World. In fact, if I'm not mistaken, in Castelvania's review of Plot Manipulation, the fact that there is already a being that is destiny itself was used as "supporting evidence", and therefore it couldn't just be manipulation of destiny by the book , although in MGK there is a being that controls causality, so by logic, it couldn't just be "manipulating causality with a book" either.

So Plot Manipulation was just rejected out of injustice (literally almost everyone, with the exception of MGK's supporters, were people who constantly disagree with MGK's CRTS)?

The fact that certain people who rejected MGK's CRT accepted Castelvania's Plot Manipulation revision with just a Scan saying that writing in the book also affects the universe, a Scan that apparently makes the book and the universe "equal", and a Scan showing the book affecting reality, it just seems like a hater on MGK 😐
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imma bonk you
 
ElPapucho80 said:
When Graham changed that event in vol 8, He change the whole Miltia timeline? I thought it was only the book
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Graham changed the event recorded by the book (the past) but it didn't affect the timeline because the Gods keep the past as the past. It's not something that can be changed unless you're a certain weapon named Venuzdonoa (probably Anos Eyes too)
 
Tatsumi504 said:
Graham changed the event recorded by the book (the past) but it didn't affect the timeline because the Gods keep the past as the past. It's not something that can be changed unless you're a certain weapon named Venuzdonoa (probably Anos Eyes too)
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Well ... Chaotic Eyes stomps order. Maybe it changes the past if is neccesary as a logical contradiction?

Also, Any date about next upgrade? (vol 6) Would be nice to read the future threads of Misfit 🧐
 
Where can I read the English translation of the web novel of the Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha series? (I know the translations are filthy but I want to read them
 
Blackdragonq1 said:
Where can I read the English translation of the web novel of the Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha series? (I know the translations are filthy but I want to read them
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fanstranslations.com

The Misfit of Demon King Academy – Novel

After 2000 years has passed, the ruthless demon lord has just been reincarnated! But his aptitude at an academy for nurturing candidates for demon lords is, “Inept”!? Having the capability to destroy humans, elementals, and gods, after a long period of countless wars and strife, Arnos the demon...
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