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Maou Gakuin Discussion Thread

Orioreeem said:
Also don't know why chief gods have resistance to power null when that line of reasoning more implies resistance to effects of varius of order shown throughtout the series.
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Eques resisted Anos MEOPD. Also Yzark Resisted Arcana order of moon and Sun( creation and destruction gods authority)
 
Orioreeem said:
Resistance to fear and death should be for all beings tho not just chief god.
Why do Creation and Destruction gods have HDE? If we are giving soveregine resistance to death manipulation based on being above that certain order then we should give them resistance to all other effects of varius order that we have been shown. Also don't know why chief gods have resistance to power null when that line of reasoning more implies resistance to effects of varius of order shown throughtout the series.
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It's better to lost out the more profound ones like power null, death manipulation. The others would be covered in the note.
 
GustiTalk12 said:
Is there a possibility that Anos has Higher Dimensional Manipulation because Anos can attack Eques who is a Higher Dimensional Existence/Higher Being?
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Nope.
Need a feat you able to manipulate higher dimensional space.
Because you have Yogiri profile, I use him as an example, "Yogiri able to manipulate Abyss, which are considerate a higher dimensional space (4D) to induce bind to the King."

Interaction with higher beings wouldn't give you Higher Dimensional Existence or Higher Dimensional Manipulation.

Okay moving on.
I hope that answers you.

Man, it's 3 AM here and I couldn't sleep.
 
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(currently as Sandbox), here is how it looks like
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...Gakuin_no_Futekigousha:_Characters_Physiology ~ Sandbox

Should I create it, or are there any notes that should be added? About scans, we can work in that CRT, so as not to flood here.
Tatsumi will work to get Spirits scans, and I will get God/demon scans; anyone who is willing to help, you are welcome.
 
Neither 1 nor 0 AND both 1 and 0 is type 3(plurality) assuming it also qualifies for that transcend part(which I am not sure either Graham or Anos qualify for anymore because we only have statement for outside order not transcend). Same would probably go for Anos but then again it's a weird case because you can say there is Order-Chaos duality.
 
Orioreeem said:
Neither 1 nor 0 AND both 1 and 0 is type 3(plurality) assuming it also qualifies for that transcend part(which I am not sure either Graham or Anos qualify for anymore because we only have statement for outside order not transcend). Same would probably go for Anos but then again it's a weird case because you can say there is Order-Chaos duality.
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We have lacking and beyond so yeah
 
Orioreeem said:
Neither 1 nor 0 AND both 1 and 0 is type 3(plurality) assuming it also qualifies for that transcend part(which I am not sure either Graham or Anos qualify for anymore because we only have statement for outside order not transcend). Same would probably go for Anos but then again it's a weird case because you can say there is Order-Chaos duality.
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Beyond = transcend
 
That scan doesn't mention beyond tho. The best you can do is argue that since his order is dominated by Arcana's it should be proof for transcendence tho I don't know if it will fly.
 
Orioreeem said:
That scan doesn't mention beyond tho. The best you can do is argue that since his order is dominated by Arcana's it should be proof for transcendence tho I don't know if it will fly.
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This is not the issue of beyond or not. The issue is the interaction statement.
The order encompasses the Causality and Anos source that exist outside that reason.

Graham's nothingness can't be interacted with anyone.
Even when Anaham tried to interact with it. He couldn't. And the true form of Anos and nothingness from Graham act the same. So it should be enough for it to get qualified.
 
Lacking order = Unbound of order too. I've seen here in the wiki, Unbound = Beyond used a lot.

Also lets take a loot at Anos description.

(Anos' source is hypothesised to be "chaos" itself, which is the lack of and opposite of all "order",[19]which includes the Order of Causality that governs the world's system of causality[20][21]. Order in general follows a system of dualities[22][23] that exists throughout all of reality on a conceptual level. In terms of binary, if order is 0 and 1 (e.g. order of creation and order of destruction), then chaos is neither 0 nor 1)

Pretty much enough. Even more if we include everything related to Arcana. Trascendence over order and blah blah blah.
 
Dereck03 said:
Lacking order = Unbound of order too. I've seen here in the wiki, Unbound = Beyond used a lot.

Also lets take a loot at Anos description.

(Anos' source is hypothesised to be "chaos" itself, which is the lack of and opposite of all "order",[19]which includes the Order of Causality that governs the world's system of causality[20][21]. Order in general follows a system of dualities[22][23] that exists throughout all of reality on a conceptual level. In terms of binary, if order is 0 and 1 (e.g. order of creation and order of destruction), then chaos is neither 0 nor 1)

Pretty much enough. Even more if we include everything related to Arcana. Trascendence over order and blah blah blah.
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Yes, correct, unbound = beyond, even beyond = transcend. I can even link staff comments about this.
Dang if he loses it, I will do a downgrade on Arceus and Madoka lol
 
Dereck03 said:
Lacking order = Unbound of order too. I've seen here in the wiki, Unbound = Beyond used a lot.

Also lets take a loot at Anos description.

(Anos' source is hypothesised to be "chaos" itself, which is the lack of and opposite of all "order",[19]which includes the Order of Causality that governs the world's system of causality[20][21]. Order in general follows a system of dualities[22][23] that exists throughout all of reality on a conceptual level. In terms of binary, if order is 0 and 1 (e.g. order of creation and order of destruction), then chaos is neither 0 nor 1)

Pretty much enough. Even more if we include everything related to Arcana. Trascendence over order and blah blah blah.
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Bro first we need to change Anos Acausality type 5 reasoning. It should be given to his destruction power which is inside of his source which has zero feats for interactions. It may get nuked otherwise.
 
It will get nuked no matter what, interaction isn't a problem if you had a statement of not being able to be normally interacted with because of being outside causality or something similar. You can do nothing without it.
 
It seem.. 0 Anti-Feats, tons of statments, but since nobody said that they can't interact with his source then he losses it.
 
Dereck03 said:
It seem.. 0 Anti-Feats, tons of statments, but since nobody said that they can't interact with his source then he losses it.
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The king Tiger casualty manipulation didn't able to interact with his source. The probability is it stated as Resistance so if you can use that as argument then go a head.
 
Orioreeem said:
It will get nuked no matter what, interaction isn't a problem if you had a statement of not being able to be normally interacted with because of being outside causality or something similar. You can do nothing without it.
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wdym? Did you read acc type 5 or no? Interaction is a problem in his reasoning. Wtf?
 
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