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Maou Gakuin Discussion Thread

What would this be as well?
決して姿を見られることなき、神隠しの精霊。
　隠狼ジェンヌルの言葉をその通りに捉えれば、奴の姿を見ることはできない。
　裏を返せば、ジェンヌルは奴の姿を見ていないときにのみ、姿を現す。
　それもどういう理屈か、目を閉じた本人の前だけに。
　目に見えないのではなく、目を開けている間は本当に存在しないのである。
　恐らくそれが、神隠しの精霊の特性だ。
　俺は肉眼と魔眼を閉じる。

　音もなければ、気配も感じぬ。
　だが、今、確かにそこにいるはずだ。
　俺を神隠しにあわせようと、襲いかかってきているだろう。
　＜森羅万掌イ・グネアス＞の手を目の前に伸ばし、そして確かに掴んだ。
　この瞬間、奴は実体化し、存在している。
　ヒビ割れた声が頭に響く。
「――決して見ることの適わぬ我を捕まえるとは、見事だ。通るがいい、アノス・ヴォルディゴード――」

扉の開く音が聞こえ、＜森羅万掌イ・グネアス＞の手から隠狼の感触が消える。
　目を開ければ、そこに隠狼ジェンヌルの姿はない。




A spirit that is never seen, a spirit of invisibility.
　If we take the words of Jennul the Hidden Wolf as they mean, he cannot be seen.
　On the flip side, Jennul only reveals himself when we don't see him.
　And for some reason, only in front of the person whose eyes are closed.
　It is not that it is invisible, but that it does not really exist while the eyes are open.
　Perhaps that is the characteristic of the spirit of the divine.
　I close my physical and magical eyes.
　I don't hear a sound, I don't feel a presence.
　But they must certainly be there now.
　They're probably attacking me right now, trying to make me go god-knows-what.
　＜I reached out my hand in front of me, and sure enough, I grabbed it.
　At this moment, he materializes and exists.
　A cracked voice echoes in my head.
'-Brilliant you have caught me, whom you shall never see. Pass, Anos voldigoad..."

The sound of a door opening is heard, and the touch of the hidden wolf disappears from the hands of <Morimasu Ignace>.
　When he opens his eyes, he finds that Jennul the Hidden Wolf is not there.
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So what would this be? Selective/ subjective/limited invisibility, intangibility, Abstract Existence or NEP 1?
 
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Dereck03 said:
Okay, I need help. I'm thinking of adding the microcosm section to the verse explanation page that Null just created. I've already added the Quote, but now I need a clear and "professional" description that describes exactly what is involved in being the microcosm of the world in MG. In the same description you can add <Future World Crystal> Kandaquisort and/or Land of Traces as respective evidence, and at the end add for example that they are Multiversal+ and therefore the world would also be Multiversal+.

Tbh, I've been thinking about a definition for a while now but my mind has decided to be a little naughty with me and not give me any damn idea of what description to use.
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Multiverse level+ via <Egil Grone Angdroa> (Extreme Hell World Destruction Ash Magic Mortar <Egil Grone Angdroa> unleashes apocalyptic flames that burn, destroy and reduce everything to ashes. It burns what should not be burned, destroys what should not be destroyed, and reduces the entire universe to ashes. It only has the form of a flame, but is actually a completely different thing.[138] If the apocalyptic flames are not controlled, it will destroy hundreds and thousands of universes[139] Can destroy all possibilities of the future it self (The <Future World Crystal> Kandaquisorte, the santuary of future god Nafta and the microcosm of Militia world, which encompasses infinite number of future that already being realized as reality and constructed by order)

What are you guys think? sorry I don't have time to think about better description, because I'm too busy
 
Tatsumi504 said:
What would this be as well?

So what would this be? Selective/ subject/limited invisibility, intangibility, Abstract Existence or NEP 1?
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I have two opinions.
1. Limited invisibility, Abstract Existence as Spirit of Invisibility, and incorporeal.
Or
2. Limited Nep nature 1 aspect 2 (basing that Anos say the true nature of the wolf invisibility is that it doesn't exist).

Tho I lean more on the first opinion.
 
XarxesBreak said:
Multiverse level+ via <Egil Grone Angdroa> (Extreme Hell World Destruction Ash Magic Mortar <Egil Grone Angdroa> unleashes apocalyptic flames that burn, destroy and reduce everything to ashes. It burns what should not be burned, destroys what should not be destroyed, and reduces the entire universe to ashes. It only has the form of a flame, but is actually a completely different thing.[138] If the apocalyptic flames are not controlled, it will destroy hundreds and thousands of universes[139] Can destroy all possibilities of the future it self (The <Future World Crystal> Kandaquisorte, the santuary of future god Nafta and the microcosm of Militia world, which encompasses infinite number of future that already being realized as reality and constructed by order)

What are you guys think? sorry I don't have time to think about better description, because I'm too busy
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Personally I like this addition to the profile and I think I can add it.
 
Dereck03 said:
Can destroy the <Future World Crystal> Kandaquisorte[140], which is a microcosm of Militia world[141] that encompasses infinite number of future that already being realized as reality and constructed by order.[142]

Bolded one, last scan in the imgur.
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"Nafta swears. As long as the present is here, the future will revive over and over again even if it perishes. The only way to destroy Future World Crystal is to destroy all possibilities." The number of crystal fragments increases in a blink of an eye, like a shining sandstorm, it envelops this place. "This is possibility, the shape of another world. Sinner, I will punish you in the limited world"
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It didn't exactly say "Infinite."
You can add this Scan which says infinite possibility, Imo it's important we specify it is indeed infinite considering how strict the wiki is with exact number.
 
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Caduz213 said:
I don't see plot manipulation being more important than reaching level 1
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Hax > AP though. Whichever tier you are in if you only have AP you can't do anything. Especially Plot hax is broken in every tier. Before reaching tier 1 if Anos gets Plot hax then we don't need to worry about layers of haxes.
 
WarbleComeBack said:
You need feats of interacting even when you have plot manip? Cant you just like destroy the plot where that’s a problem?
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Plot is not superior as you think, it equal to concept and information. Even i think it just fate manip

Dont think plot manipulation is manipulate the plot of the verse/the plot that written by the author, it is impossible. There are no fiction character can againts their author
 
WarbleComeBack said:
Cant you just like destroy the plot where that’s a problem?
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Again, NLF.

Plot Manipulation is a rare ability, and not many characters have it and has resistance to plot manipulations.
If perchance Anos get plot manip/resistance or other characters in MGK, they could find another wincon in a match rather than bulldozing through everything with AP.
Heck, This guy can probably stalemate Rimuru and Base Anos (without NEP 2, Aca, and TD 2) with just passive plot manip to induce PIS.
 
"While not strictly required, it is advisable to index the potency of a character's abilities in the optional "Explanations" section when creating or editing a profile. This can include the ability to overpower the resistances of characters who would ordinarily resist certain abilities (not to be confused with Resistance Negation), or whether or not the potency of an ability corresponds to that of a higher reality."
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Nice it got accepted.
Does maou have an explanation page ?
 
Overlord_THE_END said:
Again, NLF.

Plot Manipulation is a rare ability, and not many characters have it and has resistance to plot manipulations.
If perchance Anos get plot manip/resistance or other characters in MGK, they could find another wincon in a match rather than bulldozing through everything with AP.
Heck, This guy can probably stalemate Rimuru and Base Anos (without NEP 2, Aca, and TD 2) with just passive plot manip to induce PIS.
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Who tf is he and why does he look like your average anime beta fuckboy mc? Does he have fate value like yogiri?
 
Overlord_THE_END said:
Again, NLF.

Plot Manipulation is a rare ability, and not many characters have it and has resistance to plot manipulations.
If perchance Anos get plot manip/resistance or other characters in MGK, they could find another wincon in a match rather than bulldozing through everything with AP.
Heck, This guy can probably stalemate Rimuru and Base Anos (without NEP 2, Aca, and TD 2) with just passive plot manip to induce PIS.
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Seriously? Is this guy on par with the base Anos (no ACC and TD2) just with plot manipulation? We definitely need resistance to plot manipulation for Anos. (And others characters in MG)
 
Ultra_instinct_issei said:
Who tf is he and why does he look like your average anime beta fuckboy mc? Does he have fate value like yogiri?
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He is the mc of Neechan wa Chuunibyou, the light novel which came before instant death. He had plot manipulation, that is by merging his story with the other people story making new story in which in that story, he will always win against anyone he encounter. He always passively control the plot of the story to make sure he had chance to win and if there chance that he win, no matter how low the odd he always win. This can also work in a form of defend prevent him from truly dying. It work even against someone who resist plot like the Outer.
 
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