Maou Gakuin Discussion Thread

[Caduz213]

How many realms/structures that exactly contained inside the world?

It is just said that there are countless/innumerable shrines

 

[Abstractly_a_Protagonist]

It is just said that there are countless/innumerable shrines

It's stated as countless but black sky itself is infinite size. Which is not bound by real world.

Hmmmmmm... I can see the light for Anos now.
I just hope his aca 5 wouldn't get removed.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Hmmmmmm... I can see the light for Anos now.
I just hope his aca 5 wouldn't get removed.

Anos Acausality type 5 is only for root which has zero anti feats. His root is only interacted by his own power or Graham's nothingness which is another type 5 character.

 

[MehrasJB]

Hmmmmmm... I can see the light for Anos now.
I just hope his aca 5 wouldn't get removed.

Why would it ?

 

[Abstractly_a_Protagonist]

Anos Acausality type 5 is only for root which has zero anti feats. His root is only interacted by his own power or Graham's nothingness which is another type 5 character.

I pray for both Anos, Graham, and Yogiri. And by extension, Eques too, and any other Misfit character that gets aca 5 NPI from being able to interact with Anos' source.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I pray for both Anos, Graham, and Yogiri. And by extension, Eques too, and any other Misfit character that gets aca 5 NPI from being able to interact with Anos' source.

Eques don't have Acausality btw. He only has interaction feat which I can back up by Graham being his dad.

 

[Abstractly_a_Protagonist]

Eques don't have Acausality btw. He only has interaction feat which I can back up by Graham being his dad.

I know, but if Anos's aca 5 is removed then by extension all other feat of Misfit characters that scale to his aca 5 would also get removed. XD

 

[Iiliminal]

if low 1-c becomes a thing what would happen to the layers of hax

 

[Abstractly_a_Protagonist]

Why would it ?

Acausality type 5 revision. All present aca 5 character are currently under review.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

if low 1-c becomes a thing what would happen to the layers of hax

Seems like a single silver bubble would be Low 1-C, so the layers thing would still apply. So the 99+ hax shit would still be Tier 1 I guess.

 

[Iiliminal]

damn im excited ngl for new VS matches that we can do in tier 1

would anos and others get HDE in this case or no?

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

damn im excited ngl for new VS matches that we can do in tier 1

would anos and others get HDE in this case or no?

Tier 1 matches are meh (most of times they're stomp matches as far as i could see). You have to a lot of attention to not put a 6-D Low 1-C against a 5-D Low 1-C

 

[Caduz213]

If the worlds are low 1-C (5D), how would layers be handled? Would they all be 5D too or can we argue for 6D or a higher D at each layer deep with the information we have?What about the structure of the Silver Sea?

 

[Abstractly_a_Protagonist]

If the worlds are low 1-C (5D), how would layers be handled? Would they all be 5D too or can we argue for 6D or a higher D at each layer deep with the information we have?What about the structure of the Silver Sea?

At the very least, the layer that contains the 5D world should be treated as 5D space too.

Unless the 5D space (layer) has its own temporal time dimensions, sooooo... Maybe 6D?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

At the very least, the layer that contains the 5D world should be treated as 5D space too.

Unless the 5D space (layer) has its own temporal time dimensions, sooooo... Maybe 6D?

Layers are higher infinity. Pretty much they should be counted as extra dimensions but well don't know if wiki accepts that.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

All layers have the same size. So dont even think about 1-B.

 

[MehrasJB]

For now 6D is enough. People use vsbw as low-ball for anos now they wont be able to use the 2-A.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

All layers have the same size. So dont even think about 1-B.

Nah i meant 6D not 1B.

 

[Tatsumi504]

All layers have the same size. So dont even think about 1-B.

Are they stated to have the same size?

 

[MehrasJB]

Are they stated to have the same size?

No but i dont think they are stated to be bigger.

 

[Caduz213]

All layers have the same size. So dont even think about 1-B.

Wait for the abyssal layers.

 

[Tatsumi504]

Well i am trying to argue based on this.
Black sky Infinite is size.
Future world exist inside the black sky.
Future world itself is a 2A structure.
Also by militia explanation she can view complete world which has azure sky of gods which has land of traces which is infinite size and future world crystal but they can't view end of black sky even though both are infinite size.


It does quality for higher level of infinity.

Isn't black sky, azure sky, white void all contained inside the bubble? All sanctuaries are also in the azure sky.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Are they stated to have the same size?

No. I am pretty sure by so for everything is in spherical shape in MGF. Considering sea being spherical is more logical and deeper layers are higher infinity

Isn't black sky, azure sky, white void all contained inside the bubble? All sanctuaries are also in the azure sky.

Azure sky is inside black sky. Militia can only view the infinity which she created but she can't see the end of black sky

 

[Tatsumi504]

No but i dont think they are stated to be bigger.

Pretty sure they don't have to be bigger. Wasn't needed for magi or instant death. Just waiting for someone more knowledgeable like zinnia to confirm there are infinite bubbles in layer 0

 

[Tatsumi504]

What infinity would that be?

Militia can only view the infinity which she created but she can't see the end of black sky

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

What infinity would that be?

For example Land of traces which is small portion of militia world.

 

[Tatsumi504]

「……な、んだ、あれはどういうことだ……？」

大聖門の前にいた聖騎士たちが不可解そうな表情を浮かべる。

「神の槍に貫かれて、あの男、なぜ生きている……？」

「未来神ナフタのカンダクイゾルテ、伝承によれば、その槍に貫かれたものは未来の可能性さえ奪われ、滅するという……」

「……その奇跡に、人の身で抗うことができるというのかっ……！？」

"......, hmm, what the hell was that all about ......?"

The Holy Knights in front of the Great Sacred Gate looked puzzled.

'Pierced by the spear of God, that man, how is he still alive ......?'

'Kandakuisorte, the future god Nafta, whose spear, according to folklore, deprives those pierced by it of even the possibility of a future and destroys them. ......'

"...... can a human being resist that miracle? ......!"

What ability would this be? Existence erasure?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

What ability would this be? Existence erasure?

Yeah seems so.

 

[Tatsumi504]

For example Land of traces which is small portion of militia world.

But she didn't create land of trades, also isn't there a statement of her being able to view everything including mortal world, azure sky of she willed her eyes to?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

But she didn't create land of trades, also isn't there a statement of her being able to view everything including mortal world, azure sky of she willed her eyes to?

She created complete azure sky from scratch. Read chapter 479.

 

[Tatsumi504]

Anos Acausality type 5 is only for root which has zero anti feats. His root is only interacted by his own power or Graham's nothingness which is another type 5 character.

All gods might just get aca5 interaction. Making a profile for Nafta and she did affect Anos source

 

[Iiliminal]

For now 6D is enough. People use vsbw as low-ball for anos now they wont be able to use the 2-A.

well tbf gotta get low 1-C accepted first

 

[Dereck03]

2-A worlds is basically accepted...

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

All gods might just get aca5 interaction. Making a profile for Nafta and she did affect Anos source

Spoiler

Dude don't bring up Acausality type 5 for now. I am not in a mood to argue for why it's not an anti feat. There is literally revision going on. It's real pain to argue.

 

[Dereck03]

Spoiler

Dude don't bring up Acausality type 5 for now. I am not in a mood to argue for why it's not an anti feat. There is literally revision going on. It's real pain to argue.

Should I bring Aca 5 stuffs rn?

 

[Abstractly_a_Protagonist]

Pretty sure they don't have to be bigger. Wasn't needed for magi or instant death. Just waiting for someone more knowledgeable like zinnia to confirm there are infinite bubbles in layer 0

-Magi has Realify>Fiction
-Instant Death has a Larger Universe encompassing a Smaller Universe, and so on endlessly. Not to mention Author explicitly says Higher DImensional Universe, and Higher Dimensional Being in its narrative and trustable words of the character.

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

If you give everyone the ability to interact with Aca5, Transduality etc people will just argue those to be anti feats for Anos's source.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Should I bring Aca 5 stuffs rn?

Spoiler

I have arguments for backing it up but digging the scans is really pain..

 

[Dereck03]

Direct Statments are there, with clear scans and proof

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Direct Statments are there, with clear scans and proof

Spoiler

Need to dig up scans for

1. Venozdonor being Anos right eyes power. Same goes for sasha offsetting anos source.
2. Evansmana being in Luna's womb which may have given the power to interact with Anos source
3. Eques is literally Graham's son and he only has interaction not the feat for negation.