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Maou Gakuin Discussion Thread

But concept manip and type 8 neg would be enough to kill Jerga. It wouldnt even need to neg the type 7. Venuzdonoa doesnt attack with life/death manip so I dont see how its negating the Type 7 specifically
 
iirc he doesn't use concept manip to kill Jerga,and I also don't think all characters that have immortality neg type 8 will have type 7 neg by default since two types are different things
 
I think it would be interesting to add in the Fear Induction of Anos that it works on beings without heart and feelings since it worked in Nousgalia
 
Delta333 said:
you said immortality type 7 neg is no need if he can neg type 8 so I think you said like that,but anyways even if Venuz doesn't have it when it killed Jerga,Anos could still have it since from his eyes immortal beings like gods are normal beings like others
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Even enough AP can get rid of Type 7 beings. Venuzdonoa just circumvented it.
 
Oblivion_Of_The_Endless said:
Even enough AP can get rid of Type 7 beings. Venuzdonoa just circumvented it.
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look since Venuzdonoa is mostly related to cm3 and its destruction, and since it is not shown to destroy beings with type 9 imm., suppose it destroys a being with type 9 imm. , then will Venuzdonoa have type 9 imm? What I meant to say is imm. negation is included in cm destruction, (Venuzdonoa completed negates that imm. and destroys it). May be...

also Anos used Venuzdonoa to destroy Nousgalia(imm type 6) which is a cm destruction and got imm negation type 6. (Anos only used the sword and plunched it into Nousgalia, yes Nousgalia was possesing that homeroom teacher but his concept was destroyed and Nousgalia regenerated it.)

Simmilarly Anos used his sword into Ivis Necron(who is an undead).
 
immortality type 7 can protect from higher AP too,you can't kill normal zombies just by shooting three times in their bodies
 
InfiniteCosmology said:
then will Venuzdonoa have type 9 imm?
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If they cant send more avatars or the true form dies just by killing the avatars, then yes
InfiniteCosmology said:
also Anos used Venuzdonoa to destroy Nousgalia(imm type 6) which is a cm destruction and got imm negation type 6. (Anos only used the sword and plunched it into Nousgalia, yes Nousgalia was possesing that homeroom teacher but his concept was destroyed and Nousgalia regenerated it.)
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Concept Manip doesnt get rid of Type 6 by default. Venuzdonoa could, so thats why it has type 6 negation.
 
tbh type 1 and 2 can't protect from higher AP but it's still on his profile,I don't see why type 7 can't be added when it can block higher AP in some situations
 
Oblivion_Of_The_Endless said:
If they cant send more avatars or the true form dies just by killing the avatars, then yes

Concept Manip doesnt get rid of Type 6 by default. Venuzdonoa could, so thats why it has type 6 negation.
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Yeah, but still Anos destroyed Nousgalia(cm3 destruction) and got type 6 imm. and in the same way, he destroyed Jerga(type 7)& Ivis(type 7)(cm3 destruction). So...
Also, delta's last msg seems logical.
 
InfiniteCosmology said:
Yeah, but still Anos destroyed Nousgalia(cm3 destruction) and got type 6 imm. and in the same way, he destroyed Jerga(type 7)& Ivis(type 7)(cm3 destruction). So...
Also, delta's last msg seems logical.
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He could destroy nousgalia with concepthax because Venuz has Type 6 neg....not the other way around. Otherwise Nousgalia would just hop into another body.
 
And about type 9, well we will have to wait for Anos to kill and deny someone with type 9.
 
ngl but it's kinda cool when he is going to slay everyone no matter what's type of immortality lol also laugh at Yogiri since he will not be the only tier 2 character that can neg all types
 
Delta333 said:
btw tbh I think that "no matter how strong,eternal or infinite" is kinda flowery instead of being literal
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Don't even argue against it, unless you want to be swallowed up in a hole of darkness.
 
Yo kill Jerga you would also need to interact with abstract
Oblivion_Of_The_Endless said:
But concept manip and type 8 neg would be enough to kill Jerga. It wouldnt even need to neg the type 7. Venuzdonoa doesnt attack with life/death manip so I dont see how its negating the Type 7 specifically
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Doesn't Jerga have High Godly??
 
Summary

Aberneyu (アベルニユー, Aberuniyū) was the God of Destruction. Over 2,000 years ago, Aberneyu was the God maintaining the Order of death and destruction. Due to the Great War, many humans and demons died while spirits vanished, as a result, the Demon King of Tyranny Anos Voldigoad sought to change the order of this despairing world. When Aberneyu fell into the world, Anos killed her and turned her into the Demon King Castle Delsgade. Even though other Gods tried to compensate for her loss, complete order was never able to be restored, thus it became easier for one to cheat death.

Powers and Stats

Tier: At least 5-A, 2-B with Surge El Donave

Name: Aberneyu

Origin: Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha

Gender: Female

Age: Unknow (likely 700+ million years)

Classification: God, God of Destruction

Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Extrasensory Perception, Longevity, Immortality (Type 2, 3, 4, 5 & 8), Regeneration (High-Godly, Her Order can regenerate its wielder's source (concept) after it's been destroyed, even if the wielder's regeneration is being completely negated), Abstract Existence (Type 1 for her source. Aberneyu source is the very concept of Destruction), Flight, Healing, Power Nullification, Deconstruction (Can cause whatever she looks at to disintegrate with The Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destruction), Statistics Amplification, Aura, Fear Manipulation, Mind Manipulation (Can disintegrate his opponents mind with The Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destruction), Death Manipulation, Non-Physical Interaction, Forcefield Creation, Existence Erasure (Can make a target's body disappear without trace by Surge El Donave), Probability Manipulation, Immortality Negation (Type 1, 2, 3, 4, 6 & 8) & Regeneration Nagetion (High-Godly Surge El Donave, who later became Venuzdonoa. Can kill Nousgalia, who can come back from source/concept destruction, cannot regenerate when Venuzdonoa is around. Venuzdonoa is capable of completely destroying the target's source. Ivis Necron when fused with Eugo La Raviaz, the embodiment of the world's order, still couldn't regenerate after having been cut by the sword), Spatial Manipulation, Nonexistent Erasure (Capable of erasing Graham's nothingness, although the latter could still regenerate it back due to his odd nature), Causality Manipulation (Surge El Donave Can destroy cause and effect) Law Manipulation & Conceptual Manipulation (Type 3, Surge El Donave & The Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destruction are capable of destroying reason, order, and principles. As such, if there's a conflict between The Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destruction and the order that must be destroyed, Aberneyu will win unilaterally. Can destroy laws & concepts in deeper layers, which has an uncountably greater affect on reality than baseline laws & concepts)

Resistance: Regeneration Negation (High-Godly, Her Order can regenerate its wielder's source (concept) after it's been destroyed, even if the wielder's regeneration is being completely negated), Time Manipulation, Time Stop, Deconstruction, Sleep Manipulation, Mind Manipulation, Fear Manipulation, Death Manipulation

Attack Potency : At least Large Planet level (The Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destruction. The essence of these eyes is destruction, and it possesses unfathomable power that destroys even the indestructible. Merely the opening of these eyes will cause the entire world to collapse), Multiverse level (Surge El Donave can destroy all things in creation, no matter how strong, eternal or infinite they are, which would include the Silver Sea that contains countless universes in the shape of bubbles. Surge El Donave doesn’t follow reason nor anything number related as anything that can be reasoned returns to nothing before it, hence it's useless to think about what it can or can't do)

Speed : At least FTL (Comparable to Anos Voldigoad)

Lifting Strength : Class M (Comparable to Anos Voldigoad)

Striking Strength : Large Planet Class, Multiversal

Durability : At least Large Planet level, Multiverse level

Stamina : Extremely High (Can use magic power continuously. If the Order of destruction remains)

Range : Planetary, Interdimensional with Surge El Donave

Standard Equipment : None

Intelligence : Average

Weaknesses : None Notable

Notable Attacks/Techniques :

Sun of Destruction (Surge El Donave)
- Aberneyu's Divine Order, which burns everything and destroys on sight. It comes with the Month of Destruction, the opposite side of the Month of Creation, and it destroys creations that are meant to be destroyed. When the order was transformed into the Principle Destroying Sword <Venuzdonoa>, and her body turned into Delsgade, it was no longer able to kill and destroy things that were meant to be destroyed, allowing resurrection spells like <Ingall> to work much more successfully.

Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destruction
- The essence of these eyes is destruction, and it possesses unfathomable power that destroys even the indestructible. Merely the opening of these eyes will cause the entire world to collapse. If there is a contradiction between the Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destruction and Order, the Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destructing will win unilaterally.



Hey. I found this on facebook does it really work ?
 
Lapsad said:
Summary

Aberneyu (アベルニユー, Aberuniyū) was the God of Destruction. Over 2,000 years ago, Aberneyu was the God maintaining the Order of death and destruction. Due to the Great War, many humans and demons died while spirits vanished, as a result, the Demon King of Tyranny Anos Voldigoad sought to change the order of this despairing world. When Aberneyu fell into the world, Anos killed her and turned her into the Demon King Castle Delsgade. Even though other Gods tried to compensate for her loss, complete order was never able to be restored, thus it became easier for one to cheat death.

Powers and Stats

Tier: At least 5-A, 2-B with Surge El Donave

Name: Aberneyu

Origin: Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha

Gender: Female

Age: Unknow (likely 700+ million years)

Classification: God, God of Destruction

Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Extrasensory Perception, Longevity, Immortality (Type 2, 3, 4, 5 & 8), Regeneration (High-Godly, Her Order can regenerate its wielder's source (concept) after it's been destroyed, even if the wielder's regeneration is being completely negated), Abstract Existence (Type 1 for her source. Aberneyu source is the very concept of Destruction), Flight, Healing, Power Nullification, Deconstruction (Can cause whatever she looks at to disintegrate with The Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destruction), Statistics Amplification, Aura, Fear Manipulation, Mind Manipulation (Can disintegrate his opponents mind with The Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destruction), Death Manipulation, Non-Physical Interaction, Forcefield Creation, Existence Erasure (Can make a target's body disappear without trace by Surge El Donave), Probability Manipulation, Immortality Negation (Type 1, 2, 3, 4, 6 & 8) & Regeneration Nagetion (High-Godly Surge El Donave, who later became Venuzdonoa. Can kill Nousgalia, who can come back from source/concept destruction, cannot regenerate when Venuzdonoa is around. Venuzdonoa is capable of completely destroying the target's source. Ivis Necron when fused with Eugo La Raviaz, the embodiment of the world's order, still couldn't regenerate after having been cut by the sword), Spatial Manipulation, Nonexistent Erasure (Capable of erasing Graham's nothingness, although the latter could still regenerate it back due to his odd nature), Causality Manipulation (Surge El Donave Can destroy cause and effect) Law Manipulation & Conceptual Manipulation (Type 3, Surge El Donave & The Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destruction are capable of destroying reason, order, and principles. As such, if there's a conflict between The Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destruction and the order that must be destroyed, Aberneyu will win unilaterally. Can destroy laws & concepts in deeper layers, which has an uncountably greater affect on reality than baseline laws & concepts)

Resistance: Regeneration Negation (High-Godly, Her Order can regenerate its wielder's source (concept) after it's been destroyed, even if the wielder's regeneration is being completely negated), Time Manipulation, Time Stop, Deconstruction, Sleep Manipulation, Mind Manipulation, Fear Manipulation, Death Manipulation

Attack Potency : At least Large Planet level (The Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destruction. The essence of these eyes is destruction, and it possesses unfathomable power that destroys even the indestructible. Merely the opening of these eyes will cause the entire world to collapse), Multiverse level (Surge El Donave can destroy all things in creation, no matter how strong, eternal or infinite they are, which would include the Silver Sea that contains countless universes in the shape of bubbles. Surge El Donave doesn’t follow reason nor anything number related as anything that can be reasoned returns to nothing before it, hence it's useless to think about what it can or can't do)

Speed : At least FTL (Comparable to Anos Voldigoad)

Lifting Strength : Class M (Comparable to Anos Voldigoad)

Striking Strength : Large Planet Class, Multiversal

Durability : At least Large Planet level, Multiverse level

Stamina : Extremely High (Can use magic power continuously. If the Order of destruction remains)

Range : Planetary, Interdimensional with Surge El Donave

Standard Equipment : None

Intelligence : Average

Weaknesses : None Notable

Notable Attacks/Techniques :

Sun of Destruction (Surge El Donave)
- Aberneyu's Divine Order, which burns everything and destroys on sight. It comes with the Month of Destruction, the opposite side of the Month of Creation, and it destroys creations that are meant to be destroyed. When the order was transformed into the Principle Destroying Sword <Venuzdonoa>, and her body turned into Delsgade, it was no longer able to kill and destroy things that were meant to be destroyed, allowing resurrection spells like <Ingall> to work much more successfully.

Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destruction
- The essence of these eyes is destruction, and it possesses unfathomable power that destroys even the indestructible. Merely the opening of these eyes will cause the entire world to collapse. If there is a contradiction between the Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destruction and Order, the Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destructing will win unilaterally.



Hey. I found this on facebook does it really work ?
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Doesn't she get unconventional ressistance to mind manip and soul manip since she is a good magician too
 
gimme the link of the fbk post
Lapsad said:
Summary

Aberneyu (アベルニユー, Aberuniyū) was the God of Destruction. Over 2,000 years ago, Aberneyu was the God maintaining the Order of death and destruction. Due to the Great War, many humans and demons died while spirits vanished, as a result, the Demon King of Tyranny Anos Voldigoad sought to change the order of this despairing world. When Aberneyu fell into the world, Anos killed her and turned her into the Demon King Castle Delsgade. Even though other Gods tried to compensate for her loss, complete order was never able to be restored, thus it became easier for one to cheat death.

Powers and Stats

Tier: At least 5-A, 2-B with Surge El Donave

Name: Aberneyu

Origin: Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha

Gender: Female

Age: Unknow (likely 700+ million years)

Classification: God, God of Destruction

Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Extrasensory Perception, Longevity, Immortality (Type 2, 3, 4, 5 & 8), Regeneration (High-Godly, Her Order can regenerate its wielder's source (concept) after it's been destroyed, even if the wielder's regeneration is being completely negated), Abstract Existence (Type 1 for her source. Aberneyu source is the very concept of Destruction), Flight, Healing, Power Nullification, Deconstruction (Can cause whatever she looks at to disintegrate with The Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destruction), Statistics Amplification, Aura, Fear Manipulation, Mind Manipulation (Can disintegrate his opponents mind with The Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destruction), Death Manipulation, Non-Physical Interaction, Forcefield Creation, Existence Erasure (Can make a target's body disappear without trace by Surge El Donave), Probability Manipulation, Immortality Negation (Type 1, 2, 3, 4, 6 & 8) & Regeneration Nagetion (High-Godly Surge El Donave, who later became Venuzdonoa. Can kill Nousgalia, who can come back from source/concept destruction, cannot regenerate when Venuzdonoa is around. Venuzdonoa is capable of completely destroying the target's source. Ivis Necron when fused with Eugo La Raviaz, the embodiment of the world's order, still couldn't regenerate after having been cut by the sword), Spatial Manipulation, Nonexistent Erasure (Capable of erasing Graham's nothingness, although the latter could still regenerate it back due to his odd nature), Causality Manipulation (Surge El Donave Can destroy cause and effect) Law Manipulation & Conceptual Manipulation (Type 3, Surge El Donave & The Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destruction are capable of destroying reason, order, and principles. As such, if there's a conflict between The Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destruction and the order that must be destroyed, Aberneyu will win unilaterally. Can destroy laws & concepts in deeper layers, which has an uncountably greater affect on reality than baseline laws & concepts)

Resistance: Regeneration Negation (High-Godly, Her Order can regenerate its wielder's source (concept) after it's been destroyed, even if the wielder's regeneration is being completely negated), Time Manipulation, Time Stop, Deconstruction, Sleep Manipulation, Mind Manipulation, Fear Manipulation, Death Manipulation

Attack Potency : At least Large Planet level (The Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destruction. The essence of these eyes is destruction, and it possesses unfathomable power that destroys even the indestructible. Merely the opening of these eyes will cause the entire world to collapse), Multiverse level (Surge El Donave can destroy all things in creation, no matter how strong, eternal or infinite they are, which would include the Silver Sea that contains countless universes in the shape of bubbles. Surge El Donave doesn’t follow reason nor anything number related as anything that can be reasoned returns to nothing before it, hence it's useless to think about what it can or can't do)

Speed : At least FTL (Comparable to Anos Voldigoad)

Lifting Strength : Class M (Comparable to Anos Voldigoad)

Striking Strength : Large Planet Class, Multiversal

Durability : At least Large Planet level, Multiverse level

Stamina : Extremely High (Can use magic power continuously. If the Order of destruction remains)

Range : Planetary, Interdimensional with Surge El Donave

Standard Equipment : None

Intelligence : Average

Weaknesses : None Notable

Notable Attacks/Techniques :

Sun of Destruction (Surge El Donave)
- Aberneyu's Divine Order, which burns everything and destroys on sight. It comes with the Month of Destruction, the opposite side of the Month of Creation, and it destroys creations that are meant to be destroyed. When the order was transformed into the Principle Destroying Sword <Venuzdonoa>, and her body turned into Delsgade, it was no longer able to kill and destroy things that were meant to be destroyed, allowing resurrection spells like <Ingall> to work much more successfully.

Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destruction
- The essence of these eyes is destruction, and it possesses unfathomable power that destroys even the indestructible. Merely the opening of these eyes will cause the entire world to collapse. If there is a contradiction between the Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destruction and Order, the Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destructing will win unilaterally.



Hey. I found this on facebook does it really work ?
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Lapsad said:
Summary

Aberneyu (アベルニユー, Aberuniyū) was the God of Destruction. Over 2,000 years ago, Aberneyu was the God maintaining the Order of death and destruction. Due to the Great War, many humans and demons died while spirits vanished, as a result, the Demon King of Tyranny Anos Voldigoad sought to change the order of this despairing world. When Aberneyu fell into the world, Anos killed her and turned her into the Demon King Castle Delsgade. Even though other Gods tried to compensate for her loss, complete order was never able to be restored, thus it became easier for one to cheat death.

Powers and Stats

Tier: At least 5-A, 2-B with Surge El Donave

Name: Aberneyu

Origin: Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha

Gender: Female

Age: Unknow (likely 700+ million years)

Classification: God, God of Destruction

Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Extrasensory Perception, Longevity, Immortality (Type 2, 3, 4, 5 & 8), Regeneration (High-Godly, Her Order can regenerate its wielder's source (concept) after it's been destroyed, even if the wielder's regeneration is being completely negated), Abstract Existence (Type 1 for her source. Aberneyu source is the very concept of Destruction), Flight, Healing, Power Nullification, Deconstruction (Can cause whatever she looks at to disintegrate with The Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destruction), Statistics Amplification, Aura, Fear Manipulation, Mind Manipulation (Can disintegrate his opponents mind with The Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destruction), Death Manipulation, Non-Physical Interaction, Forcefield Creation, Existence Erasure (Can make a target's body disappear without trace by Surge El Donave), Probability Manipulation, Immortality Negation (Type 1, 2, 3, 4, 6 & 8) & Regeneration Nagetion (High-Godly Surge El Donave, who later became Venuzdonoa. Can kill Nousgalia, who can come back from source/concept destruction, cannot regenerate when Venuzdonoa is around. Venuzdonoa is capable of completely destroying the target's source. Ivis Necron when fused with Eugo La Raviaz, the embodiment of the world's order, still couldn't regenerate after having been cut by the sword), Spatial Manipulation, Nonexistent Erasure (Capable of erasing Graham's nothingness, although the latter could still regenerate it back due to his odd nature), Causality Manipulation (Surge El Donave Can destroy cause and effect) Law Manipulation & Conceptual Manipulation (Type 3, Surge El Donave & The Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destruction are capable of destroying reason, order, and principles. As such, if there's a conflict between The Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destruction and the order that must be destroyed, Aberneyu will win unilaterally. Can destroy laws & concepts in deeper layers, which has an uncountably greater affect on reality than baseline laws & concepts)

Resistance: Regeneration Negation (High-Godly, Her Order can regenerate its wielder's source (concept) after it's been destroyed, even if the wielder's regeneration is being completely negated), Time Manipulation, Time Stop, Deconstruction, Sleep Manipulation, Mind Manipulation, Fear Manipulation, Death Manipulation

Attack Potency : At least Large Planet level (The Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destruction. The essence of these eyes is destruction, and it possesses unfathomable power that destroys even the indestructible. Merely the opening of these eyes will cause the entire world to collapse), Multiverse level (Surge El Donave can destroy all things in creation, no matter how strong, eternal or infinite they are, which would include the Silver Sea that contains countless universes in the shape of bubbles. Surge El Donave doesn’t follow reason nor anything number related as anything that can be reasoned returns to nothing before it, hence it's useless to think about what it can or can't do)

Speed : At least FTL (Comparable to Anos Voldigoad)

Lifting Strength : Class M (Comparable to Anos Voldigoad)

Striking Strength : Large Planet Class, Multiversal

Durability : At least Large Planet level, Multiverse level

Stamina : Extremely High (Can use magic power continuously. If the Order of destruction remains)

Range : Planetary, Interdimensional with Surge El Donave

Standard Equipment : None

Intelligence : Average

Weaknesses : None Notable

Notable Attacks/Techniques :

Sun of Destruction (Surge El Donave)
- Aberneyu's Divine Order, which burns everything and destroys on sight. It comes with the Month of Destruction, the opposite side of the Month of Creation, and it destroys creations that are meant to be destroyed. When the order was transformed into the Principle Destroying Sword <Venuzdonoa>, and her body turned into Delsgade, it was no longer able to kill and destroy things that were meant to be destroyed, allowing resurrection spells like <Ingall> to work much more successfully.

Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destruction
- The essence of these eyes is destruction, and it possesses unfathomable power that destroys even the indestructible. Merely the opening of these eyes will cause the entire world to collapse. If there is a contradiction between the Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destruction and Order, the Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destructing will win unilaterally.



Hey. I found this on facebook does it really work ?
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age:700 M+ yrs?
 
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