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Maou Gakuin Discussion Thread

Delta333 said:
I leave that group so I don’t care much about it now

Btw you should join a group call “death battle unrestricted” cus they have tier 1 of everything lol,even tier 1 natsu etc
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Tier 1 normal human
 
Dereck03 said:
Because he was not even able to block the spear that transcends spacetime, he was always pierced by the spear.
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Ah I see, thanks for the info, I remember reading that part through Ebook by Yenspress, seems that was a minstraslation lol. I'm starting to think that Yenspress is one of the most inaccurate sources
 
God900 said:
Ah I see, thanks for the info, I remember reading that part through Ebook by Yenspress, seems that was a minstraslation lol. I'm starting to think that Yenspress is one of the most inaccurate sources
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Read the Raws... They are better... That if, you have to use a good translator to translate the Raws, since for example the google translate is shit and does not work, I for example for that kind of things I use one called DeepL, it is very good.
 
Dereck03 said:
Read the Raws... They are better... That if, you have to use a good translator to translate the Raws, since for example the google translate is shit and does not work, I for example for that kind of things I use one called DeepL, it is very good.
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Thanks, will do!!, also, just curious, have u ever had this kind of issue reading the Novel though Yenspress or Fan translations like me?? 😂😂
 
God900 said:
Thanks, will do!!, also, just curious, have u ever had this kind of issue reading the Novel though Yenspress or Fan translations like me?? 😂😂
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I don't read a lot of novels, besides I know a little bit of Hiragana and Katanaka, so sometimes I try to read only the raw, but I usually use translator to get a better idea, I don't read MTL or Fan translations, only Raws.
 
Lapsad said:
Summary

Aberneyu (アベルニユー, Aberuniyū) was the God of Destruction. Over 2,000 years ago, Aberneyu was the God maintaining the Order of death and destruction. Due to the Great War, many humans and demons died while spirits vanished, as a result, the Demon King of Tyranny Anos Voldigoad sought to change the order of this despairing world. When Aberneyu fell into the world, Anos killed her and turned her into the Demon King Castle Delsgade. Even though other Gods tried to compensate for her loss, complete order was never able to be restored, thus it became easier for one to cheat death.

Powers and Stats

Tier: At least 5-A, 2-B with Surge El Donave

Name: Aberneyu

Origin: Maou Gakuin no Futekigousha

Gender: Female

Age: Unknow (likely 700+ million years)

Classification: God, God of Destruction

Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Extrasensory Perception, Longevity, Immortality (Type 2, 3, 4, 5 & 8), Regeneration (High-Godly, Her Order can regenerate its wielder's source (concept) after it's been destroyed, even if the wielder's regeneration is being completely negated), Abstract Existence (Type 1 for her source. Aberneyu source is the very concept of Destruction), Flight, Healing, Power Nullification, Deconstruction (Can cause whatever she looks at to disintegrate with The Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destruction), Statistics Amplification, Aura, Fear Manipulation, Mind Manipulation (Can disintegrate his opponents mind with The Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destruction), Death Manipulation, Non-Physical Interaction, Forcefield Creation, Existence Erasure (Can make a target's body disappear without trace by Surge El Donave), Probability Manipulation, Immortality Negation (Type 1, 2, 3, 4, 6 & 8) & Regeneration Nagetion (High-Godly Surge El Donave, who later became Venuzdonoa. Can kill Nousgalia, who can come back from source/concept destruction, cannot regenerate when Venuzdonoa is around. Venuzdonoa is capable of completely destroying the target's source. Ivis Necron when fused with Eugo La Raviaz, the embodiment of the world's order, still couldn't regenerate after having been cut by the sword), Spatial Manipulation, Nonexistent Erasure (Capable of erasing Graham's nothingness, although the latter could still regenerate it back due to his odd nature), Causality Manipulation (Surge El Donave Can destroy cause and effect) Law Manipulation & Conceptual Manipulation (Type 3, Surge El Donave & The Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destruction are capable of destroying reason, order, and principles. As such, if there's a conflict between The Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destruction and the order that must be destroyed, Aberneyu will win unilaterally. Can destroy laws & concepts in deeper layers, which has an uncountably greater affect on reality than baseline laws & concepts)

Resistance: Regeneration Negation (High-Godly, Her Order can regenerate its wielder's source (concept) after it's been destroyed, even if the wielder's regeneration is being completely negated), Time Manipulation, Time Stop, Deconstruction, Sleep Manipulation, Mind Manipulation, Fear Manipulation, Death Manipulation

Attack Potency : At least Large Planet level (The Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destruction. The essence of these eyes is destruction, and it possesses unfathomable power that destroys even the indestructible. Merely the opening of these eyes will cause the entire world to collapse), Multiverse level (Surge El Donave can destroy all things in creation, no matter how strong, eternal or infinite they are, which would include the Silver Sea that contains countless universes in the shape of bubbles. Surge El Donave doesn’t follow reason nor anything number related as anything that can be reasoned returns to nothing before it, hence it's useless to think about what it can or can't do)

Speed : At least FTL (Comparable to Anos Voldigoad)

Lifting Strength : Class M (Comparable to Anos Voldigoad)

Striking Strength : Large Planet Class, Multiversal

Durability : At least Large Planet level, Multiverse level

Stamina : Extremely High (Can use magic power continuously. If the Order of destruction remains)

Range : Planetary, Interdimensional with Surge El Donave

Standard Equipment : None

Intelligence : Average

Weaknesses : None Notable

Notable Attacks/Techniques :

Sun of Destruction (Surge El Donave)
- Aberneyu's Divine Order, which burns everything and destroys on sight. It comes with the Month of Destruction, the opposite side of the Month of Creation, and it destroys creations that are meant to be destroyed. When the order was transformed into the Principle Destroying Sword <Venuzdonoa>, and her body turned into Delsgade, it was no longer able to kill and destroy things that were meant to be destroyed, allowing resurrection spells like <Ingall> to work much more successfully.

Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destruction
- The essence of these eyes is destruction, and it possesses unfathomable power that destroys even the indestructible. Merely the opening of these eyes will cause the entire world to collapse. If there is a contradiction between the Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destruction and Order, the Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destructing will win unilaterally.



Hey. I found this on facebook does it really work ?
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This is a nice template, but there's a lot of mistakes...

Anyways, should Militia and Aberneyu have their own profile, or should they just be separate keys on Misha and Sasha's profiles?
 
I think they should have their own separate profile, even if they are referenced in Sasha's and Misha's profiles.
 
why we need seperate profile when Sasha is Aberneyu's reincarnation lol,like when don't need seperate profile for Anos's post and pre reincarnation

I suggest Aberneyu will be her different key,the P&A part will be "all of Sasha and Venuzdonoa's abilities,plus Abstract Existence (Type 1. Gods maintain and embody the order and laws of the world.Aberneyu embodies the Order of Destruction, Immortality (types 1,2 and 7.Gods are non living entities), Resistance Negation (Gods's abilities can only be resisted by other gods)"
 
btw Anos has type 1 and 2 neg via killing Jerga when Jerga doesn't even have those types lol,kinda weird but both Jerga and Eugo should have them
 
I also think just having separate keys would be better.

Sargeldonave shouldn't automatically have all of Venuzdonoa's abilities. It would be a huge assumption to say it has. It can however have some of Venuzdonoa's abilities.

**It definitely shouldn't be given a 2-B rating.

Also, Aberneyu doesn't have the Demon Eyes of Chaotic Destruction. She has the Demon Eyes of Destruction and Divine Eyes of Apocalypse.
 
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Aberneyu must have all of Venuz's abilities since Sun of destruction is her authority

Edit:why Sargeldonave doesn't have all of Venuz's abilities when both are the same thing lol
 
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Delta333 said:
Aberneyu must have all of Venuz's abilities since Sun of destruction is her authority

Edit:why Sargeldonave doesn't have all of Venuz's abilities when both are the same thing lol
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They aren't the same thing tho. Sargeldonave is just a seal on Venuzdonoa's power.

Absolutely nothing suggests that it should have all of Venuzdonoa's abilities, and it definitely shouldn't be rated as 2-B.
At most, I can see it having law & concept manip combined with a few negations.
 
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imZer0Null said:
They aren't the same thing tho. Sargeldonave is just a seal on Venuzdonoa's power.
Absolutely nothing suggests that it should have all of Venuzdonoa's abilities, and it definitely shouldn't be rated as 2-B.
At most, I can see it having law & concept manip combined with a few negations.
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they're literally the same thing,Sargeldonave is the original form of Venuz

Even if Sargeldonave doesn't have full power of Venuz(although it must have❓) the fact that Aberneyu has all abilities of Venuz should be clear since we have quote that directly said Venuz is Goddess of destruction's power
 
Delta333 said:
they're literally the same thing,Sargeldonave is the original form of Venuz

Even if Sargeldonave doesn't have full power of Venuz(although it must have❓) the fact that Aberneyu has all abilities of Venuz should be clear since we have quote that directly said Venuz is Goddess of destruction's power
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That's incorrect tho.
 
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If you can provide a scan that states Sargeldonave and Venuzdonoa have the same exact abilities, or something that even remotely implies that, please do.
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because Sargeldonave transformed into Venuz?also again,you can say Sargeldonave doesn't have all abilities of Venuz if you want but it can't change the fact that Venuz is Aberneyu's power,or you actually want me to give scan about it?
 
I mean, I fail to see why it wouldnt be the case. Its the same order. Order doesnt change its properties just because its now in a weapon, only its power and maneuverability

Venuzdonoa just limits the order to specific targets (while the Sun of Destruction is indiscriminate). Thats the only difference from what Ive seen.
 
If Aberneyu possesses all of Venuz's abilities, I already want to see people saying that Venuzdonoa is restricted in Aberneyu's future battles. They are the same so they cannot restrict anything. hihihi
 
WN Chapter 527:

コーストリアは、ヴェヌズドノアの特性を即座に見抜き、更にその深淵に迫っていく。

Kostoria immediately recognises the characteristics of Venuzdonoa and goes further into its abyss.

「術式の構築には、破壊神の権能を利用。違う。あくまで力を制御するための封にすぎない。魔法の本質は、もっと深く、もっと底――」

"In the construction of the formula, the power of the god of destruction is used. No. It is only a seal to control the power. The essence of magic is much deeper, more bottomless--"
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Like I said, saying Sargeldonave = Venuzdonoa is incorrect. It's just a seal to control Venuzdonoa's power.

The Sun of Destruction was also weaker in deeper layers iirc.
A ton of Venuzdonoa's abilities is also gained from its power to destroy reason, but I haven't personally seen anything that stated the Sun of Destruction can destroy reason.

If you claim that Sargeldonave should have all of Venuzdonoa's abilities, then you'll need to provide better proof.
I do acknowledge that it could have some of Venuzdonoa's abilities tho.
 
Venuzdonoa -> Induces the order of destruction

Aberneyu's ability -> Induces the order of destruction

They are the same. The power didnt begin to exist when venuzdonoa was created, it was already a thing since Aberneyu's existence
 
That still doesn't prove anything.

Venuzdonoa only uses Sargeldonave as a seal.
Are you gonna tell me you can drive a literal engine just because you can drive a car which uses an engine?
 
Nousgalia pretty much stated that the Sun of Doom is Venuzdonoa's original form, not exactly a seal
"But it is too foolish a choice, for it is impossible for the divine order to remain in a different form forever. In time, the order will regain its original reason. What do you think will happen then?" (Nousgalia)
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And that it can destroy everything just as much

"Now, look up to the heavens, you fools! The miracle of the God of Destruction, the Sun of Doom, who brought about all kinds of death and destruction in the Age of Mythology, Sargeeldnave, is back here now!" (Nousgalia)
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Nousgalia's statement doesn't contradict the Sun of Destruction being a seal for Venuzdonoa's power.

Again, iirc, the Sun of Destruction was weaker in deeper layers, so unlike Venuzdonoa, it can't destroy everything. I do believe it can destroy the Militia World tho.

I'm not saying Order of Destruction =/= Order of Destruction.
I'm saying Sargeldonave =/= Venuzdonoa.

You're basically saying that an engine (Sargeldonave) = a car (Venuzdonoa), because both use fuel (Order of Destruction) and a car has an engine.
That's just completely incorrect.

You should also provide proof that Sargeldonave can actually destroy reason, since again, most of Venuzdonoa's abilities are gained from its power to destroy reason.
 
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