bigjoe
He/Him- 6
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While just looking the Downstreamers wiki page I came across this quote,
"Now he understood. This was the purpose. Not the long survival of humankind into a dismal future of decay and shadows, the final retreat into the lossless substrate, where nothing ever changed or grew. The purpose of humankind - the first intelligence of all - had been to reshape the universe in order to bud others and create a storm of mind. We got it wrong, [...] By striving for a meaningless eternity, humans denied true infinity. But we reached back, back in time, back to the far upstream, and spoke to our last children - the maligned Blues - and we put it right. This is what it meant to be alone in the universe, to be the first. We had all of infinite time and space in our hands. We had ultimate responsibility. And we discharged it. We were parents of the universe, not its children."
The biggest reason to assume that this true infinity is absolute infinity is due to the downstreamers immense knowledge about the manifold, and their nigh omniscience pre FVC, and how they "Think the same thoughts and live the same life's". It also is reasonable to believe that the downstreamers know about smaller infinities such as countable and Inaccessible Cardinals, and strive to reach the absolute infinity.
Is it reasonable to assume that the true infinity that they speak of is absolute infinity? If so would this warrant an upgrade to tier 0 or upgrade to possibly tier 0?
"Now he understood. This was the purpose. Not the long survival of humankind into a dismal future of decay and shadows, the final retreat into the lossless substrate, where nothing ever changed or grew. The purpose of humankind - the first intelligence of all - had been to reshape the universe in order to bud others and create a storm of mind. We got it wrong, [...] By striving for a meaningless eternity, humans denied true infinity. But we reached back, back in time, back to the far upstream, and spoke to our last children - the maligned Blues - and we put it right. This is what it meant to be alone in the universe, to be the first. We had all of infinite time and space in our hands. We had ultimate responsibility. And we discharged it. We were parents of the universe, not its children."
The biggest reason to assume that this true infinity is absolute infinity is due to the downstreamers immense knowledge about the manifold, and their nigh omniscience pre FVC, and how they "Think the same thoughts and live the same life's". It also is reasonable to believe that the downstreamers know about smaller infinities such as countable and Inaccessible Cardinals, and strive to reach the absolute infinity.
Is it reasonable to assume that the true infinity that they speak of is absolute infinity? If so would this warrant an upgrade to tier 0 or upgrade to possibly tier 0?
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