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Not sure how you got it to 2-C, cuz you can literally temporarily knock it out. 8-C, also hank can take hits from it, so 8-C in both AP and durability.
i dont gets notifs from pinging.@Comiphorous i don't see problems with Hank being that high
Nothing indicates that he was talking EXACTLY about avatars (To be fair, it is bit vague either way). And anyway he scales to Tricky who later threatened to Auditor, and have power to make infinite what could be encroach reality so don't mattersbecause your blog post relies on Avatar and True form being inter changable. the clip you use to prove it literally starts out as 'if i SHOT an EMPLOYER'. that means the AVATAR.
'a bit' would be an understatement. assuming it's the true forms is so out of the water that it shouldn't even be considered.Nothing indicates that he was talking EXACTLY about avatars (To be fair, it is bit vague either way).
The only people who know about the true forms is the maker, the machine, 2BDamned, and Phobos...And anyway he scales to Tricky who later threatened to Auditor, and have power to make infinite what could be encroach reality so don't matters
Watch episode. It is literally whole plot of MC 11why would tricky be threatening the true form he doesn't know exists...
that doesn't answer my question. Tricky absorbed the avatar's power, and used the halo.
'everything' likely means navada, not himself.Auditor: "HE DOES NOT BELONG. WE CAN SURVIVE TOGETHER. HIS PRESENCE IS DAMAGING TO WHOLE EVERYTHING"
you asking powerscaling questions to use in this really aint gonna fly here.Okay, now I know a two questions that I must ask Krinkels on stream
1. He can mean himself too'everything' likely means navada, not himself.
you asking powerscaling questions to use in this really aint gonna fly here.
You'd need to prove that, otherwise it should be assumed he wasn't talking about himself.1. He can mean himself too
I suppose im not to say. i guess whatever a moderator has to say about that.2. Not 100% true, since I just would ask him about what Tricky did in MC 11 to Auditor. Also he first said about dissonance and I just would ask further context
to the avatar. no proof he was a threat to the true form.@Comiphorous and also Auditor said "We can survive together" to Sanford.
Tricky is clearly threat to him
But he says it inside own dimensions + citation aboveto the avatar. no proof he was a threat to the true form.
him saying it in his dimension doesn't mean anything. Tricky had hijacked it into his control.But he says it inside own dimensions + citation above
Yes, meaning he powerful enough to somehow affect/hurt Uni charactershim saying it in his dimension doesn't mean anything. Tricky had hijacked it into his control.
he didn't hurt, nor affect anything.Yes, meaning he powerful enough to somehow affect/hurt Uni characters
So basically you admitted that he gained control over Universe (And therefore affects it)? And how this is only hax, and not his AP?he didn't hurt, nor affect anything.
he affected the avatar (which is 8-C) which had a universe inside it, which he hijacked into his control due to inverting the auditor. it's entirely hax.
it's been two ******* minutes calm down christ almighty.@Comiphorous let's discuss
And do you understand that characters still would use this hax against each other and therefore scale their durability? With Auditor's avatar stated to be even stronger than Tricky
Please, show this contradictions. In Doom literally single reason to be Multiversal, and it is Davoth creating Mhltiverse, with nothing in actuall fight showing something even remotely close, but everyone ok with this.
Besides Employers directly stated to have power to affect entire Universe
They usually do. i still want that scan about the auditor's avatar being stronger than tricky.1. Hax NOT ALWAYS ignores durability.
because it was stated in doom that was the case.2. Davoth is just guy inside mech, how the **** hell part of him?
i asked for proof that it scales to them physically. don't be an asshat about proving it, just give me proof. actual proof, don't just say it comes from energy from their bodies because the true forms don't have bodies that's the point of their avatars. the proof you actually sent here doesn't even make sense. i want a link of some sort.3. It is goes from energy from their body. Learn scaling on this site
Which... is why their true forms usually would scale to enviromental destruction? the true forms which have any statements about being tier 2 literally never attack people and use people actually in nevada to do it for them. they don't fit the criteria to scale physically.
1. https://curiouscat.live/Krinkels/post/1137710860They usually do. i still want that scan about the auditor's avatar being stronger than tricky.
because it was stated in doom that was the case.
i asked for proof that it scales to them physically. don't be an asshat about proving it, just give me proof. actual proof, don't just say it comes from energy from their bodies because the true forms don't have bodies that's the point of their avatars. the proof you actually sent here doesn't even make sense. i want a link of some sort.
Which... is why their true forms usually would scale to enviromental destruction? the true forms which have any statements about being tier 2 literally never attack people and use people actually in nevada to do it for them. they don't fit the criteria to scale physically.
kinda hard to use that when we don't know what version of Tricky he's talking about. that can be true for literally most of his forms, besides the MC11 version.
The irony of you getting on my case about this when you are trying to upgrade the entire cast to 2-C when they are literally harmed and killed by guns...2. Statements means jackshit when nothing supports them
3. I'm idk what proofs you wants to scale theim physically
most hax ignore durability though. you need proof that the hax that hurt the avatar of the auditor doesn't ignore durability, and then that damage extended to the true form which then would scale to the rest of the cast, and then be considered an outlier.And again, not all Hax ignore durability, so you can use this for scaling durability. The fact character can produce energy to affect world can scale him on such level
1. Fairkinda hard to use that when we don't know what version of Tricky he's talking about. that can be true for literally most of his forms, besides the MC11 version.
The irony of you getting on my case about this when you are trying to upgrade the entire cast to 2-C when they are literally harmed and killed by guns...
thats not proof they scale physically. very rarely does creating a universe actually scale physically unless they put that energy into an attack.
most hax ignore durability though. you need proof that the hax that hurt the avatar of the auditor doesn't ignore durability, and then that damage extended to the true form which then would scale to the rest of the cast, and then be considered an outlier.
Most guns are actually modelled after real life ones. so. they aren't fictional guns most of the time.2. By fictional gun in fictional absurd setting, which probaly one of least confusing thing you can found here
Davoth has the entire dimeionsion literally being him, and i don't know anything about devil may cry. Davoth has actual attacks. he actually hurts people, unlike the employers true form who do not attempt to attack anyone at all. im actually incline to believe the true forms aren't capable of interacting with the world since they just never do, unlike the machine.3. Hello Davoth, hello Mundus. And we always scale it to their phys. on this site, unless here some proofs which suggests otherwise. Why characters would not use this energy to attack someone? It is ocamm's razor
if everyone scaled to the employer's true form not only would guns not harm them (they're based off real guns, so they're not some goofy ass fictional ones), but Phobos again would not need to merge with the other place to be comparable to the employers, as he already would be.4. Actually not too many hax ignores durability. And you still didn't proved how it is outliers
they're not based off real models, they are. they're named after real guns.1. They based on real models, sure, but this is don't disproves them being different from real ones. Remember: weapons here can damage Ghosts, who can phase throught walls and made of energy
I suppose you can ask Doom supporters about it, or go ahead and make a CRT about it and be proven wrong. i don't scale doom, so, better to ask them than me.2. Except it is not what we sees? We just see Davoth as dude, that one statement about hell being extension of Davoth most likely was just hyperbole/metaphora. Also fun fact: Employers is literally entire dimensions
because i have a general idea, not a in-depth grasp.2. Fair, but why you even protected Doom if didn't knew bullshit?
thats because their avatars are literally that, they're gateways to hell. due to the lack of showcase of the true forms of the employers, if krinkles talks about the employers, assume it's about the avatar (as thats usually what he's talking about) unless he specifies it's about their true form.3. Literally Krinkels saying that "Employers is kinda dimensions"