Lupin III Discussion Thread (2)

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

please god let MFTL Lupin happen, it'd be so fucking funny

Meanwhile, Me and The Boi's reactions regarding said thought processes back at the [Redacted] Realm:

 

[StretchSebe]

zamn

I mean, what I said earlier still stands, but this is interesting regardless. please god let MFTL Lupin happen, it'd be so fucking funny

MFTL? Maybe not...

FTL though! (assuming the distance from angsizing isn't significant enough to factor in. Even then, he moving faster regardless)

 

[StretchSebe]

Meanwhile, Me and The Boi's reactions regarding said thought processes back at the [Redacted] Realm:

Also, I'm unsure what this refers to, but could you send me the guidebook statement source? Though I provide it in image form, it'd probably be good to have the book to reference online (like just what book it came from: Been searching and cannot find the guidebook for the life of me).

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Also, I'm unsure what this refers to.

I still have faith of a MFTL Lupin, I must further learn to not reveal my cards too soon.

but could you send me the guidebook statement source? Though I provide it in image form, it'd probably be good to have the book to reference online (like just what book it came from: Been searching and cannot find the guidebook for the life of me).

I currently cannot find something reliable as well unfortunately, but it comes from this as a reference:

 

[StretchSebe]

I still have faith of a MFTL Lupin, I must further learn to not reveal my cards too soon.

I currently cannot find something reliable as well unfortunately, but it comes from this as a reference:

No, this works! Thanks for letting me know where it came from.

 

[Tonygameman]

So, for a bump, I've been recently starting with adding video scans for the profile, based on timestamps from our previous threads (sweet memories). Maybe I should keep going later since some of the video-trimming editor websites has a daily limit.

 

[Fireld]

HAPPY NEW YEAR GANG!!

 

[Fireld]

 

[Fireld]

Lupin III Downgrade

This feat is currently used as a supporting feat for the verse, but from the discussion below it, it seems no one actually scales. There's also this mansion feat, which is supposed to scale to Fujiko and the villain of the week. While the latter is true, Fujiko was nowhere near the explosion...

vsbattles.com

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Lupin III Downgrade

This feat is currently used as a supporting feat for the verse, but from the discussion below it, it seems no one actually scales. There's also this mansion feat, which is supposed to scale to Fujiko and the villain of the week. While the latter is true, Fujiko was nowhere near the explosion...

vsbattles.com

Ah crap, not this again... I'm not gonna sugar coat it lads/lasses... Not only am I NOT in a mood as well, it will now be another intrusive thought to worry about for later XD.

I'll take a look at it when the chance is given... But as I said, my disheveled energy is kicking in and I do not want anymore quarrels, so I chose to stay out of it currently... At this point, we are indeed going to have the Disrespectful TF2 treatment with Lupawn too. Dime is not ready with the Cheshire Verse... I can already sense the exact arguments, alongside the already outdated inconsistencies being preached (which in regards to verses like Cheshire, ultimately become a strength. Much like Looney Tunes/SB, the verse doesn't actually abide by real world conundrums I mean even the animals are cracked that the grasshopper later overpowers in RE of course).

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Goemon as a Force user... That will be the day (not in this forum unfortunately)...

 

[Kaiser0079]

Lupin fans rejoice!


Lupin in specific is my current target of course, but one can add the feats of characters that Lupin scales to as well (One's labelled as "Source?" are the one's I need lavelled). Name anything else that you have and I will credit you like I did in the SB thread, there are also more I found on the Respect Threads of course which mattered the most. Outlandish at first, but it will all make sense. This isn't even Manga Lupin... Yet.

Establishing No Canon:
So um... Monkey Punch has clearly directed Dead or Alive... And this is not the only thing he Directed. I propose: An establishing of No Canon, the continuity is malleable and loose as it is, and these are but mere examples. This is not a bad thing, that means Lupin has the SBP potential of furthering other media usage too (manga, games, etc.).
Other Examples: Lupin Zero takes place in the 1960's... Only for Caligostro to ALSO take place in that year alongside other dates, don't even get me started on the First, etc, etc.

So with the freedom of no canon, then Lupin's status surely becomes insanely more outlandishly powerful then it is thanks to the Manga + Other Media.

So anyways, this is what I have gathered up bois, and I went some extra miles with these, so hopefully it was worth the wait:

Statistics (thus far):
• Establishing more powerful Toon Force maneuvers:

• If he misses, it will come back like a boomerang to hit the opponent, can overall deflect back one's inventory cartoonishly even with his bullets. In fact he has iconically defied physics very consistently throughout the franchise and is always prone to using such when endangered.
• Puffed himself back up from being squished.
• Since Part 1 he can incapacitate this way as well.
• Known to get away from Zenigata in cartoonish ways very consistently (0:12).
• Everything in "strange psychokinetic strategy".
• There is overall even more consistencies of Toonforce further below then just Lupin's Psychokinetic Strategy (I hope all of those Psychokinetic labelings are still worth it however, cuz MAN has it been DIFFICULT to label them lately, but also: MAN how OP this already is. He finally has Time Manipulation/OP Hax too so yaaaay!! ).

• Teleportation:

• Switched clothes without touching it or arising suspicion (18:51), is seen without Jigen's wallet but still snatched it out of him anyways (19:07), spontaneously appeared alongside wine (22:37), spots a wild Fujiko thus once more thus uses Teleportation to get there while leaving objects suspended in action (31:08), threw a knife that suddenly spawned TNT out of nowhere (55:34. Automatic Teleportation), masterfully outfought Zenigata before who also has notable Toonforce (59:47 and 1:00:43), disguised himself as someone else via nothing already (1:05:57).
• Can be taken severely off guard yet still utilize variety of abilities from duplications and Teleportation's to fool those and get away, his incapacitating and disguising are also used like this also leaving duds, clearly using said outlandish abilities to further his unexpectancy.
• Teleports places with people even strip them of what they have with said Teleportation while also teleport bobbie traps that fully rids Zenigata.
• Despite having his entire body restrained from handcuffs, he still teleports out of it.
• Teleports large amounts of inventory that overwhelms foes and can spawn said inventory from nothing as it is with various elements.
• His skill with this is already unpredictable since he was a child learning even if he was in drunken state, Lupin has also defeated foes this way before.
• Uses Teleportation to not only avoid attacks but also sneakily spawn other things amongst teleporting through other undisclosed locations to think of a better execution.

• Transmutation:
Not only can Lupin spawn inventory from nothingness, but also transmutes one's projectiles.

• Duplication:

• Can be taken severely off guard yet still utilize variety of abilities from Duplications and Teleportation's to fool those and get away.
• Lupin duplicates from nothing even when he's killed (getting some eldritch Cat in the Hat vibes again).

• Actual 4th wall breaking and Plot Manipulation (yes, really):

• Censored out nudity (54:54) and constantly breaks the 4th wall in general.
• Summoning the episode's name by calling "Title!" after stepping off of a plane (Part II).
• Fully acknowledges that he has control over the plot as he turned a fan suggested idea into a reality, with Zenigata supporting it and the writer himself saying he'll leave the rest to Lupin even then the animator automatically helps out regardless and he and the crew entered the real world and altered events there (Dimensional Travel too).
• His shooting alone can reach his title sign and through the 4th wall.
• Stopped the episode from ending, to the extents a robot duplicate of himself reminded the audience to care for their their hygiene (Part 2. "Source?").
• Lupin can also acknowledge crucial future events that would help better assist the situation (Cosmic Awareness) as seen here, here, and here (There should be more instances then just Part 2).
• The whole crew like Jigen and Zenigata are aware for being in a cartoon and manga respectively. Part II; Episode 7 and Manga. So Jigen and Zeni can potentially do the same plot/toon Hax as Lupin.

Bonus! Peak Tier Idea (5th Dimensional Lupawn... I know, hear me out):
We finally know that there is a 4th Dimensional Plane, but Lupin can enter the real world that is clearly above this. The most scary thing is that there is blatant consistency to be made as Lupin has fired bullets past said 4th wall which Lupin has tanked, has entered the real world countless times with the commercials being acknowledged in the canon such as in "Mystery of Mamo", Scales to Zenigato very consistently and who aside the 4th wall breaks also accidently breaks the animation frames which falls under far more consistent Looney Tunes shit (I guess I was on to something with that TMS's Animainacs vibes), Lupin went as far as to outwit and even brought his God into his world if we go with Manga.
Look, if Markiplier of all people can get this, then I gotta attempt this with Lupawn XD.

• Enhanced Senses:

• Lupin is unaffected by smoke on top of fighting off the Fuma Clan whom are very agile and stealthy on their own.
• Can deduce one's origin's of inventory by their sound.
• While he will aim at the barrel/weak spots of one's inventories, Lupin can also disarm someone with nothing but quarters very consistently even with his back turned casually, flipping quarters with his gun alone is but a warm up to him.
• Detects the intricately hidden from conspicuous spies, one's traps down to one's intentions to trap him consistently, their lethal inventory no matter of how well hidden it is even the most miniscule evidence regardless if a stealthy tracking device were to be planted on him he will still know thus counteracts it from the beginning, scales to Jigen who is able to sense when a tank was ready to fire its shell in "Part 2. Episode 136", could also just dispatch Jigen in a gunfight whom has an unparalleled accuracy consistently, stalemates Goemon very consistently who can intricately yet quickly remove hidden explosives from one's hearts, can be surrounded close quarters yet still easily deflect all of their bullets just as consistently, able to leave projectiles suspended in mid-air, can fight in the dark, etc.

• Instinctive Actions:

• Since part 1/beginnings, Lupin can shot far away opponents from behind very consistently, also causing entire trained squadrons to fail.
• Lupin can have his back turned and still instinctively outperform, before they even made any moves.
• Toyed with and also dodged Fujiko's rounds blind (TWCFM. Source Gifs?).
• Lupin automatically acted upon a gunner, regardless of how far away (TWCFM. Source Gifs?).
• Successfully evades the advanced Danmaku gauntlet even in spots one wouldn't react to, where as earlier just one beam will delete them from existence.
• Stalemates Goemon very consistently who can cut distant shooting stars with his eyes closed.
• Lupin instinctually maneuverers his inventory regardless of distance.
• Unlocks safes without looking at them.

• Attack Reflection:

• Aside Toon Force, Lupin is comparable to Goemon who can casually deflect a knife.
• Can block projectiles that gets deflected back at the opponents.

• Afterimage Creation:
Able to create Afterimages (1:29) complex enough to deter powerful opponents like Goemon who Lupin would have killed if it weren't for Zenigata interfering, Goemon can also block projectiles before they are fired and are literally useless against Goemon.

• Extrasensory Perception:

• Scales to Jigen who can not only finished off those that are also well hidden, but one of them didn't even have the time to appear (17:38), to the extent Jigen couldn't keep up with Lupin's sensory (23:46).
• Lupin not only senses a well hidden Zenigata, but also scales to Goemon who also sensed MI6 Agents hiding in various far areas.
• Comparable to Zenigata who can detect them out in space.

• Precognition:
Even if he isn't told, he still knows what it is via just "being Lupin" (28:10).

• Non-Physical Interaction and Soul Manipulation:

• When Lupin was younger he can interact with the soul of a car (2:12) and has physically held spirits before.
• Won a race against Pablo Escobar's Ghost hard enough to break the curse.

• Immortality:

• Types 2, 3 and 6: Has no issues puffing back from a flattening and scales to Zenigata who also came back from a flattening. Can receive countless beatings, strains, overall torture daily, that reduced his 300 IQ to 1, yet Lupin reveals that he can just recover. Lupin duplicates from nothing, even when he's directly killed/damaged he can duplicate back at peak health very consistently also adding an extra disguise on top of it in the intro of the Italian Game.
• Types 7: There is evidence of people dying in verse and coming back as ghosts consistently (self explanatory from the NPI and Soul hax).

Immortality Negation (thus far):
Type 2: Can rid Zenigata who can recover from a flattening.

• Limited Cybogization:
His eye has a bionic implant (Daisuke Jigen's Gravestone).

• Existence Erasure:
Physically rids one's inventory from existence.

• Sealing:
Sealed Fujiko away.

• Supernatrual Luck:

• Causes victims attempts to backfire terribly (26:38).
• Has domino effects that will lead to his favor.
• The problems that he doesn't know, will become simplified.
• Throws artifacts into the ocean, only for such to return.
• In "Farewell to Nostradamus" Lupin was saved by dolphins out of nowhere (Source?).
• In "Is Lupin Still Burning?" Even when his entire life was Reverse Flashed by Kyouske, Lupin's partners not only strangely found their ways back to Lupin but also went for his aid despite not knowing who he is.
• Literal windows of opportunity will appear out of nowhere as a maze to deter his opponents (Mankatsu. Source?).

• Reactive Evolution:

• Since Part 1/beginnings: Regardless if Kyouske doesn't demonstrate how he does his abilities, Lupin then reveals doing the same abilities to what Kyouske Mamo did and can now outwit him as well where as Kyouske is complex enough to master the 4th Dimension to it's capabilities and in "Is Lupin Burning?" Lupin can still maneuver his advanced tech to not only fix the alterations but also trap Kyouske in the stone age, in another he even solved his riddle despite of the gap too.
• Just from a dazed state alone helped Lupin deduce one's inventory like Pycals Formula.
• Jigen who had a sensory eventually couldn't keep up with Lupin's sensory (23:46) with Lupin not falling for the same trick twice (33:48) even after being taken off guard with another, he ran a marathon to get home and gradually surpassed the abilities of one that was intially better then him on it (34:18).
• While he is effected by the Suicide Ray, once he got hit again he has gained a slightly better resistance to it and can at least fully dodge them where as before he was taken off guard by it (There should be better examples of him bypassing what effects him before, this is just to get the ball rolling).
• Lupin would initially struggle against one's inventory, only to overpower such to his advantages even if it was cranked all the way up as Lupin defeated the other, and walks away like nothing happened (what a chad. But there's more xD).
• Struggled with enhanced cyborgs but can eventually contend with them even physically, surpassing Cyborg Jigen as well, with his inventory also becoming stronger then before to the point Cyborg Jigen feels pain despite being inorganic.
• Mr. X who engineers Indestructible bodies that even bypassed the Zantesuken can also be an exact physiology of Lupin that overwhelmed him at first, only for Mr. X to no longer keep up Lupin.
• Once he gets stronger, he can fully destroy their inventory consistently (1:01).
• Eventually one shots those whom were much more unpredictable and far more quicker or agile then him initially.
• Hulked out men joked from being moved or effected even by knifes, yet Lupin eventually bypassed his abilities.
• Constantly challenges and would have killed Goemon, who in "Goodbye Partner" had an advanced AI saying Goemon's Zanetsuken shouldn't have been able to cut certain objects after analyzing it, yet Goemon bypassed such (source). The same Goemon would have eventually killed Hawk even giving a vison of it, Hawk can deflect bullets right behind him, leave them sort of suspended in mid-air, and deflect them back at Zenigata who was in extreme pain despite of his Pain Tolerance, Zantesuken also has its own elements (for reference: See Lupin's Zanetsuken Knife on equipment). Goemon can also create danmaku in a single slice (0:03).
• Consistently challenges Zenigata, who can make immediate truthful deductions rather consistently, yet Lupin defies such just as constantly throughout the franchise as mere running gags regardless if Zenigata has his own Toonforce (59:47 and 1:00:43) and other abilities like Teleportation (0:32. He teleported his hat back).
• Mamo despite being thousands of years old plus acquired the knowledge amongst wisdom of all geniuses, scientists, philosophers of history, and claimed to be behind most historical events, still had Lupin eventually keep up with his tricks to the extent Psychic Mamo deemed Lupin a god from his unpredictable nature (Source Gifs?).
• Solved the mystery of the Tower of Babel, when not even members of an advanced alien civilization could in over thousands of years (source).
• In "Daisuke Jigens Gravestone" Lupin discovered that Yael Okuzaki was using a device hidden on his eye that allowed him to see the cameras in the entire city, even though Lupin never saw Okuzaki's device, he was able to create a better one and hacked Okuzaki's (Source Gifs?).
• Agent Nyx aside his senses can also accurately measure the probability of one's capture accurately, yet once more Lupin grew to defy such calculations too rather consistently even in Nyx's bloodlusted states which has a 0% chance of winning, only for Lupin to still deter said calculations even if Nyx purposely handicapped Lupin from walking, Lupin walked away fine and Lupin reveals that Nyx sees the world in slow motion too.
• It takes years with no success to decrypt genius scientist Waturu Uraga's hidden complex codes, only for Lupin to quickly deduce the said hidden code written in different languages of the same scientist capable of implanting a personification of himself inside one's subconscious, which in it's self took as many years in the making too.
• The highly adaptive Leonardo Da Vinci Clone classified as a world threat that is further composed with all the greatest minds of the past from Wataru's invention easily replicated Wataru Uraga's invention but on a more massive scale to the point of making everyone on Italy fall asleep and was going to replace all of those personalities with his own, only for Lupin to not only be the first to wake up despite the larger gap, but after Lupin insterted his persona regardless of how much world altering DaVinci did, Lupin still proved to be the stronger persona and thus fully ruined DaVinci's plans. The best part to seal the deal is that other crew members also scales to Lupin here, they have finally kept up with DaVinci's abilities including Nyx, whom was casually overpowered before by DaVinci even in a bloodlusted state.
• Lupin can intially struggle being exposed to strong magic even down to corrupting one's soul, yet eventually negates such.

• Damage Reduction and Damage Transferal:
When Lupin gets hit, only the weapon has the injuries instead, which Lupin can transfer the damage back into incapacitating the aggressor.

• Resistance Negation:

• Surpassed beings like Cyborg Jigen, his inventory also becoming stronger then before to the point Cyborg Jigen feels pain despite being inorganic.
• There are those whom resist his attacks (Soul Manipulation, Durability Negation, Existence Erasure etc.), and can eventually bypass.

• Time Manipulation:

• Freezing plus shrugging off his own time stop (7:19. Time Stop resistance too), speeds up time to the point they don't realize that Lupin isn't even trying and dispatches them under the said sped up time (25:03), slowed down time again (56:12), has masterfully outfought Zenigata before who also has notable Toonforce (59:47 and 1:00:43), in fact Lupin uses Time Manipulation first to incapacitate trained assassins (53:20). Reminder: Lupin's RE can also surpass one's abilities.
• He has stopped time since Part 1 (5:42) surprisingly consistently (0:51).

• Furthering Stealth Mastery:

• Lupin has already evidenced using his abilities as meticulously sneaky from Teleportation, Duplication, Incapacitations, Time Manipulations (as he has demonstrated, so the audience alone can understand), Plot Manipulation (although the idea was fan suggested, Lupin revealed that he can create episodes that although Zeni acknowledges this, didn't truly know the full picture), being an overall Master Trickster in general even outwitted God.
• Lupin and his gang can vanish from crowds without a trace and appear in another longer location, let alone them knowing that they were even there in the first place.

• Furthering greater Informational Analysis:

• Consistently challenges and evolves against an opponents Info Analysis like Zenigata, who can make immediate truthful deductions rather consistently, yet Lupin defies such just as constantly throughout the franchise as mere running gags regardless if Zenigata has his own Toonforce (59:47 and 1:00:43), other abilities like Teleportation (0:32. He teleported his hat back), and have Reactive Evolution.
• In "Goemon's Bloodspray" Lupin deduced the inner machinations of Goemon's Sixth Sense and what he was doing this whole time, unlocking his fastest sense Lupawn calls "The Realm of the Buddha".
• In "Lupin the First" Lupin managed to quickly figure out the entire laser gauntlet's machinations in moments.

• All-Terrain Hypermobility:

• Leaps this high alongside Fujiko (6:32) also using said acrobatics as attacks (6:42), does these flips again to rob Jigen from his firearms who is the same that has Extrasensory Perception (19:53).
• Very equilibrated enough to leap on top of fast moving vehicles and easily runs across tightropes very consistently.
• Lupin can overall leap large distances regardless of the lack of equilibrium and can balance from debris as seen in Babylon.
• Able to easily keep his balance from just the tips while having his hands full, even during duressing fights.
• Comparably uses his own grappling hook as acrobatic maneuvers even for close saves.
• Maneuvered through the danmaku laser gauntlet, even in spots one wouldn't react to, where as earlier just one beam will delete them from existence.
• Casually flips around and steals from assassins whom weave through the verses bullets in the dark.
• Can triple jump.
• Leaps out of Jigen's bullets who has unparalleled accuracy, even stalemating Goemon whose strikes alone has defied gravity, reach shooting stars, amongst others whom have challenged them throughout.

• Free Movements:

• Can run through the ocean very consistently.
• Defies gravity to save someone very consistently.

• Flight:
Capable of freely floating in the air while carrying bags filled with gold in Part 2 (source?).

• Durability Negation:

• Inventory is shown to do this (1:10:27).
• Can dura neg on his own.
• His shooting alone can reach his title sign and through the 4th wall.

• Statistics Amplification:
He can lower and raise his IQ through eating proteins, thus he has 301 IQ.

• Very high resistances to Social Influencing:

• It's rare that Lupin is deceived by someone due to his ability to read people's expressions and detect lies (source?).
• Doesn't fall for professional acting.
• Can easily see through disguises in a variety of ways.
• Tomoe states that she wasn't able to control Lupin as a kid to make him believe she was his mother, her persuasive words alone also didn't work on Lupin (source?).

• Better establishing how effective his Social Influencing actually is... Master Trickster Status (yes we are going there too with Lupin, hear me out):

• Humorously does reverse psychology on dutiful cops (3:30), even being the very first film has Lupin's gæ influencing rizz working on Jiggin (1:05:27), perfectly disguised himself as someone else via nothing already and convinced just as easily (1:05:57).
• Upscales from whatever Tomoe can do (source?).
• Convinced the hardened Zenigata of "Disguise Syndrome".
• Disarmed/Deters with words alone (yes he LITERALLY pulled a Doctor Who).
• Even if there are woman in deep relationships, Lupin instantly seduces them regardless if they barely knew him.
• Lupin's persuasion at his most nonchalant is still potent enough in just needing glasses to remain undetected, even in modern times he is still widely recognized as the world's 1# thief down to his acknowledged 300 IQ yet as effective that even after revealing himself it took awhile for them to get the jist.
• Since Part 1 he grew to outwit Kyouske who mastered the 4th Dimension, Mamo with his thousands psychic brain who influenced crucial events in history eventually outmatched by Lupin, the evolving Da Vinci Clone who comparably proved to be as much of a challenge only to be outplayed, just overall those who pose a challenge to Lupin's persuasion whom is the same that can detect lies to seeing disguises in a variety of ways have been bested.

• Ice Manipulation Resistances:
Seems to be deterred by being frozen solid, only to budge out of it in fact he has grown stronger to the point of moving and even sneezing out of it.

• Deconstruction resistances (surprisingly):
Tanked weaponry that didn't even disintegrate through him or his disguising let alone inventory alone, even though said weaponry explicitly reduces one to charcoal.

• Resistances to Info Analysis:

• His inventory can now deny Nanomachine Scans (Dead or Alive. Source) and already wears a mask revealing his real face on top of it (Part 5. Source?)
• Consistently challenges Zenigata, who can make immediate truthful deductions rather consistently, yet Lupin defies such just as constantly throughout the franchise as mere running gags regardless if Zenigata has his own Toonforce (59:47 and 1:00:43) and other abilities like Teleportation (0:32. He teleported his hat back) even in modern times.
• Not only was M16 tech unable to identify Lupin going through areas, Agent Nyx aside his senses can also accurately measure the probability of one's capture accurately, yet once more Lupin grew to defy such calculations too rather consistently even in Nyx's bloodlusted states which has a 0% chance of winning, only for Lupin to still deter said calculations even if Nyx purposely handicapped Lupin from walking, Lupin walked away fine and Lupin reveals that Nyx sees the world in slow motion too.

• Resistances to Supernatural Luck (yes really):
Challenges Goemon very consistently and could have killed him in part 6, whose chops alone managed to unnaturally budge passwords amongst boosting other things (So no, this isn't part of a "Vision").

• Resistances to Extrasensory Perception and Precognition:

• Despite Goemon having already defeated the best in the world and has grown stronger by now where in "Goemon's Blood spray" has achieved "the realm of the buddha" to the extent Goemon can send a vison even then admits that he struggles with Lupin, Goemon also hangs out with him constantly as he is one of the strongest in the world and in part 6, Lupin would have immediately killed Goemon, whom was baffled and couldn't keep up.
• In "Part 6. Episode 0" Jigen destroys drones that can predict one's moves, this applies to Lupin as he does face Jigen who also made Goemon struggle, the same can slice these drones with no issues.

• Power Mimicry Resistance:
Mr. X who engineers Indestructible bodies that even bypassed the Zantesuken can also be an exact physiology of Lupin that overwhelmed him at first, only for Mr. X to no longer keep up Lupin.

Potential Self-Substance Type 1 and Cosmic Resistances:
Can breathe and survive the conditions of outer space.

• Perception Manipulation Resistances:
Eventually deterred Nyx many times regardless of Nyx's bloodlusted states, who can always see the world in slow motion (1:46).

• Bettering Resistance to Mind Manipulation:
Was being mentally controlled by Tomoe, only to reveal he has long broken out of it (Part 6. Episodes 23-24?)

• Resistances to Telepathy:
Lupin's mind couldn't be properly read let alone ever dream, Psychic Mamo deemed Lupin a god from his unpredictable nature.

• Resistances to Sleep Manipulation:
The first to wake up and deemed worthy by an evolving Da Vinci whom replicated Wataru's invention on a greater scale.

• Resistances to Existence Erasure, Transmutation, Soul Manipulation, Durability Negation:
Survived mishaps from his own.

• Magic, further Soul Manipulation, and Corruption resistances:
Lupin can be exposed to strong magic even down to corrupting one's soul, yet his he eventually negates such.

• Elemental, Air Manipulation, and Danmaku Resistance (Yes, really):
Although injured, Lupin survived, wasn't pushed away, and only one slice was created from a bloodlusted Goemon's slashes whom can dissipate elemental abilities, disperse forest fires to Tornados, creates multiple cuts in a single slice (0:03) very consistently, even through other objects and can create two air strikes in a single slash which not only cuts a dozen targets but also vanishes one's clothing as it is, etc.

Cosmic Awareness Resistances:
Fools his creator.

Inventory (most potent to add thus far):
Something important to note already is that Lupin can just pull these many inventories via Teleportation and whatever he desires in general. Whether he instinctively brings a frying pan out of nothing to use as a weapon, to larger sizes very consistently, amongst other already established toony absurdities he's capable of since Psychokinetic Strats and Lupin Zero (homie can bring out a plunger to stick into surfaces, amongst other things he has in mind). Therefore I propose that they don't become optional anymore too, just make it equipment if anything if the situation desires it.

• Fear Manipulation and Illusion Creation:
Posseses strong gas from the Fumas which causes fear and hallucinations even on those as powerful and astute like Jigen and Goemon.

• Deconstruction:
Via Mercury Bullet.

• Limited Clairvoyance, further Non-Physical Interaction, Danmaku, Enhanced Attack Reflection, Air Manipulation, Elemental Negation, Absorption, and high temperature resistances via Zanetsuken Knife:
Has a piece of Goemon's Zanetsuken that he turned into a knife which should have the same properties as Goemon's, the sword can disperse forest fires to Tornados, his air strikes alone cuts a dozen targets, negate one's elemental abilities amongst absorbing magic, can also create multiple cuts in a single slice (0:03), Mamo's lasers heated metal structures to hot red yet had no effect even to the smallest piece of the Zantetsuken and is also undeterred from striking lighting mid air many times.

• Invulnerability via the Pycal Formula:
The Formula can keep the user Invulnerable from virtually anything for several days (Part 1. episode 2).

• Additional Monocle Hacking:
Built a Multipurpose Monocle that can hack a car remotely, order plane tickets, hack identification, security systems, perform advanced comparisons and internet searches. Should have remixed the coding of his grandfathers that can crack anything.

• Time Travel and BFR:
Via Kyouskes Time Machine, he can shoot a beam to warp them through different time periods while causing strange alterations (like removing spaces entierly. Source?).

• Spaceflight:
His Fiat 500 can transform into a mechanical spaceship.

IQ Upgrade Additions. Likely Supergenius (bear with me):

• Those whom are the most anciently psychic that also possesses magic, mastered the 4th Dimensional Plane to their advantage, even of comparable challenge to the superior mentioned thus far, have been surpassed by Lupin and also doesn't always need to see one's own inventory, ideas, and abilities that he ends up evolving better one's.
• Masterful in using the environment to his advantage and thinking on his feet.
• His deductions already borders on Superhuman in staying ahead of Zenigata's deductions, seeing right through an opponents tricks and given the time he can cleverly use their own abilities against them on the fly.
• Made an operable Spaceship out of his Fiat 500.
• Has history proving to be ahead of Supercomputers many countless times and better himself as the generations follow.
• Invented universal keys.
• Fooled God (Monkey Punch).

Spoiler: feats in dire need to be calculated

Feats in need to be calculated:
AP/Dura:

• Scales to Goemon whom can casually cut nukes, the same who's moon was too bright for his liking, therefore dispersing 2 clouds large enough to cover half the moon (remember that Goemon's casual air strike can cut alone) Although Goemon cuts the moon in half, for real this time? (2:28) and I don't know what episode this is from, but accordingly "during his fight with a werewolf he did cut the moon"? (the verse has already operated on absurdest Toonforce so some consistency can be made).
• Lupin survives the epicenter of a black hole.

In Lupin's Durability: Regeneration amongst Duplication (Can duplicate from nothing), Immortalities, Toon Force, Plot Manipulation, and Damage Reduction alongside Damage Transferal makes him incredibly difficult to kill.

Speed:

• Lupin manages to push a bullet fast enough that light comes out of it.
• Moves so fast that these lasers couldn't keep up which Jigen also does while submerged underwater (source) that not only track, but are instantaneously fast tech (this is even more notable considering the verse is actually incredibly advanced as it is).
• Lupin and the bad guy manages to still move despite of the black holes force.
• Scales to Goemon, who regardless of just waking up still deflects this close ranged laser (Lupin does the same after he evolved).
• Has history of besting Supercomputers that also predicts one's moves as it is since part 1 many countless times (Part 3: episode 23), outpacing even demolishing one in combat, also evolved past Mr. X who became an exact copy of himself, and furthermore says he is ahead of the generations that follow (Part 5. Where he reveals his face he said something like this). Supercomputers in general are this astonishingly fast (recall that the Lupin Verse is far more advanced then normal).

LS:

• Pushed back this massive blocky trap for awhile.
• Shakes plus disables a plane by throwing a wrench and also tipping said plane by just landing on it.
• The verses bullets are heavy enough to obliterate tanks whole for starters (Part lll Intro), something the gang amongst Goemon have no leverage getting past over the years.
• Lupin and Jigen manages to lift even push this log that is heavy enough to shake an entire building, in fact Jigen threw it so hard that the log also shatters and still shook said building.
• Restrains Zenigato very consistently who via just arching his back maintained the weight of trains.
• Lupin and the bad guy manages to budge despite being in a black hole.

Updating on his Standard Tactics:
Lupin will keep his distance and head for his Walther P38, which should anything miss it will always come back like a boomerang to hit the opponent, he deflects back one's inventory cartoonishly which is something that he can do with his bullets but can also generally deflect back at an opponent. Can ignore durability with his inventory alone (1:10:27) though even then the attacks he inflicts can also incapacitate should the opponent not resist, undergo erasures, have their soul effected (2:12), with his shooting alone reaching his title sign and through the 4th wall. Should Lupin get hit, only the weapon has the injuries instead, which Lupin can transfer the damage back into incapacitating the aggressor.
Stern reminder that: Lupin has iconically defied physics very consistently throughout the franchises history and is always prone to using such when endangered.

Lupin can also quickly evolve past opponents in a variety of versatile ways even to those that already have an evolution, such as X copying his body that overwhelmed at first only to be overpowered, and the highly adaptive DaVinci Clone (see the Reactive Evolution category for further details).

Overall: Lupin has countless evidence in using his abilities as meticulously sneakily even offensively and defensively, from Teleportation, Duplication, Incapacitations, Time Manipulations (as he has demonstrated in Strange Psychokinetic Strategy, so the audience alone can understand), Plot Manipulation (although the idea was fan suggested, Lupin revealed that he can create and control episodes that even Zeni also acknowledges, yet didn't truly know the full picture), amongst spawning other inventory regardless of how small or big to the protection for the given situations, being an overall Master Trickster in general regardless if one is ancient or from the future with hax straight from the 4th Dimensional Plane, etc.

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Lupin in specific is my current target of course, but one can add the feats of characters that Lupin scales to as well (One's labelled as "Source?" are the one's I need lavelled). Name anything else that you have and I will credit you like I did in the SB thread, there are also more I found on the Respect Threads of course which mattered the most. Outlandish at first, but it will all make sense. This isn't even Manga Lupin... Yet.

Establishing No Canon:
So um... Monkey Punch has clearly directed Dead or Alive... And this is not the only thing he Directed. I propose: An establishing of No Canon, the continuity is malleable and loose as it is, and these are but mere examples. This is not a bad thing, that means Lupin has the SBP potential of furthering other media usage too (manga, games, etc.).
Other Examples: Lupin Zero takes place in the 1960's... Only for Caligostro to ALSO take place in that year alongside other dates, don't even get me started on the First, etc, etc.

So with the freedom of no canon, then Lupin's status surely becomes insanely more outlandishly powerful then it is thanks to the Manga + Other Media.

So anyways, this is what I have gathered up bois, and I went some extra miles with these, so hopefully it was worth the wait:

Statistics (thus far):
• Establishing more powerful Toon Force maneuvers:

• If he misses, it will come back like a boomerang to hit the opponent, can overall deflect back one's inventory cartoonishly even with his bullets. In fact he has iconically defied physics very consistently throughout the franchise and is always prone to using such when endangered.
• Puffed himself back up from being squished.
• Since Part 1 he can incapacitate this way as well.
• Known to get away from Zenigata in cartoonish ways very consistently (0:12).
• Everything in "strange psychokinetic strategy".
• There is overall even more consistencies of Toonforce further below then just Lupin's Psychokinetic Strategy (I hope all of those Psychokinetic labelings are still worth it however, cuz MAN has it been DIFFICULT to label them lately, but also: MAN how OP this already is. He finally has Time Manipulation/OP Hax too so yaaaay!! ).

• Teleportation:

• Switched clothes without touching it or arising suspicion (18:51), is seen without Jigen's wallet but still snatched it out of him anyways (19:07), spontaneously appeared alongside wine (22:37), spots a wild Fujiko thus once more thus uses Teleportation to get there while leaving objects suspended in action (31:08), threw a knife that suddenly spawned TNT out of nowhere (55:34. Automatic Teleportation), masterfully outfought Zenigata before who also has notable Toonforce (59:47 and 1:00:43), disguised himself as someone else via nothing already (1:05:57).
• Can be taken severely off guard yet still utilize variety of abilities from duplications and Teleportation's to fool those and get away, his incapacitating and disguising are also used like this also leaving duds, clearly using said outlandish abilities to further his unexpectancy.
• Teleports places with people even strip them of what they have with said Teleportation while also teleport bobbie traps that fully rids Zenigata.
• Despite having his entire body restrained from handcuffs, he still teleports out of it.
• Teleports large amounts of inventory that overwhelms foes and can spawn said inventory from nothing as it is with various elements.
• His skill with this is already unpredictable since he was a child learning even if he was in drunken state, Lupin has also defeated foes this way before.
• Uses Teleportation to not only avoid attacks but also sneakily spawn other things amongst teleporting through other undisclosed locations to think of a better execution.

• Transmutation:
Not only can Lupin spawn inventory from nothingness, but also transmutes one's projectiles.

• Duplication:

• Can be taken severely off guard yet still utilize variety of abilities from Duplications and Teleportation's to fool those and get away.
• Lupin duplicates from nothing even when he's killed (getting some eldritch Cat in the Hat vibes again).

• Actual 4th wall breaking and Plot Manipulation (yes, really):

• Censored out nudity (54:54) and constantly breaks the 4th wall in general.
• Summoning the episode's name by calling "Title!" after stepping off of a plane (Part II).
• Fully acknowledges that he has control over the plot as he turned a fan suggested idea into a reality, with Zenigata supporting it and the writer himself saying he'll leave the rest to Lupin even then the animator automatically helps out regardless and he and the crew entered the real world and altered events there (Dimensional Travel too).
• His shooting alone can reach his title sign and through the 4th wall.
• Stopped the episode from ending, to the extents a robot duplicate of himself reminded the audience to care for their their hygiene (Part 2. "Source?").
• Lupin can also acknowledge crucial future events that would help better assist the situation (Cosmic Awareness) as seen here, here, and here (There should be more instances then just Part 2).
• The whole crew like Jigen and Zenigata are aware for being in a cartoon and manga respectively. Part II; Episode 7 and Manga. So Jigen and Zeni can potentially do the same plot/toon Hax as Lupin.

Bonus! Peak Tier Idea (5th Dimensional Lupawn... I know, hear me out):
We finally know that there is a 4th Dimensional Plane, but Lupin can enter the real world that is clearly above this. The most scary thing is that there is blatant consistency to be made as Lupin has fired bullets past said 4th wall which Lupin has tanked, has entered the real world countless times with the commercials being acknowledged in the canon such as in "Mystery of Mamo", Scales to Zenigato very consistently and who aside the 4th wall breaks also accidently breaks the animation frames which falls under far more consistent Looney Tunes shit (I guess I was on to something with that TMS's Animainacs vibes), Lupin went as far as to outwit and even brought his God into his world if we go with Manga.
Look, if Markiplier of all people can get this, then I gotta attempt this with Lupawn XD.

• Enhanced Senses:

• Lupin is unaffected by smoke on top of fighting off the Fuma Clan whom are very agile and stealthy on their own.
• Can deduce one's origin's of inventory by their sound.
• While he will aim at the barrel/weak spots of one's inventories, Lupin can also disarm someone with nothing but quarters very consistently even with his back turned casually, flipping quarters with his gun alone is but a warm up to him.
• Detects the intricately hidden from conspicuous spies, one's traps down to one's intentions to trap him consistently, their lethal inventory no matter of how well hidden it is even the most miniscule evidence regardless if a stealthy tracking device were to be planted on him he will still know thus counteracts it from the beginning, scales to Jigen who is able to sense when a tank was ready to fire its shell in "Part 2. Episode 136", could also just dispatch Jigen in a gunfight whom has an unparalleled accuracy consistently, stalemates Goemon very consistently who can intricately yet quickly remove hidden explosives from one's hearts, can be surrounded close quarters yet still easily deflect all of their bullets just as consistently, able to leave projectiles suspended in mid-air, can fight in the dark, etc.

• Instinctive Actions:

• Since part 1/beginnings, Lupin can shot far away opponents from behind very consistently, also causing entire trained squadrons to fail.
• Lupin can have his back turned and still instinctively outperform, before they even made any moves.
• Toyed with and also dodged Fujiko's rounds blind (TWCFM. Source Gifs?).
• Lupin automatically acted upon a gunner, regardless of how far away (TWCFM. Source Gifs?).
• Successfully evades the advanced Danmaku gauntlet even in spots one wouldn't react to, where as earlier just one beam will delete them from existence.
• Stalemates Goemon very consistently who can cut distant shooting stars with his eyes closed.
• Lupin instinctually maneuverers his inventory regardless of distance.
• Unlocks safes without looking at them.

• Attack Reflection:

• Aside Toon Force, Lupin is comparable to Goemon who can casually deflect a knife.
• Can block projectiles that gets deflected back at the opponents.

• Afterimage Creation:
Able to create Afterimages (1:29) complex enough to deter powerful opponents like Goemon who Lupin would have killed if it weren't for Zenigata interfering, Goemon can also block projectiles before they are fired and are literally useless against Goemon.

• Extrasensory Perception:

• Scales to Jigen who can not only finished off those that are also well hidden, but one of them didn't even have the time to appear (17:38), to the extent Jigen couldn't keep up with Lupin's sensory (23:46).
• Lupin not only senses a well hidden Zenigata, but also scales to Goemon who also sensed MI6 Agents hiding in various far areas.
• Comparable to Zenigata who can detect them out in space.

• Precognition:
Even if he isn't told, he still knows what it is via just "being Lupin" (28:10).

• Non-Physical Interaction and Soul Manipulation:

• When Lupin was younger he can interact with the soul of a car (2:12) and has physically held spirits before.
• Won a race against Pablo Escobar's Ghost hard enough to break the curse.

• Immortality:

• Types 2, 3 and 6: Has no issues puffing back from a flattening and scales to Zenigata who also came back from a flattening. Can receive countless beatings, strains, overall torture daily, that reduced his 300 IQ to 1, yet Lupin reveals that he can just recover. Lupin duplicates from nothing, even when he's directly killed/damaged he can duplicate back at peak health very consistently also adding an extra disguise on top of it in the intro of the Italian Game.
• Types 7: There is evidence of people dying in verse and coming back as ghosts consistently (self explanatory from the NPI and Soul hax).

Immortality Negation (thus far):
Type 2: Can rid Zenigata who can recover from a flattening.

• Limited Cybogization:
His eye has a bionic implant (Daisuke Jigen's Gravestone).

• Existence Erasure:
Physically rids one's inventory from existence.

• Sealing:
Sealed Fujiko away.

• Supernatrual Luck:

• Causes victims attempts to backfire terribly (26:38).
• Has domino effects that will lead to his favor.
• The problems that he doesn't know, will become simplified.
• Throws artifacts into the ocean, only for such to return.
• In "Farewell to Nostradamus" Lupin was saved by dolphins out of nowhere (Source?).
• In "Is Lupin Still Burning?" Even when his entire life was Reverse Flashed by Kyouske, Lupin's partners not only strangely found their ways back to Lupin but also went for his aid despite not knowing who he is.
• Literal windows of opportunity will appear out of nowhere as a maze to deter his opponents (Mankatsu. Source?).

• Reactive Evolution:

• Since Part 1/beginnings: Regardless if Kyouske doesn't demonstrate how he does his abilities, Lupin then reveals doing the same abilities to what Kyouske Mamo did and can now outwit him as well where as Kyouske is complex enough to master the 4th Dimension to it's capabilities and in "Is Lupin Burning?" Lupin can still maneuver his advanced tech to not only fix the alterations but also trap Kyouske in the stone age, in another he even solved his riddle despite of the gap too.
• Just from a dazed state alone helped Lupin deduce one's inventory like Pycals Formula.
• Jigen who had a sensory eventually couldn't keep up with Lupin's sensory (23:46) with Lupin not falling for the same trick twice (33:48) even after being taken off guard with another, he ran a marathon to get home and gradually surpassed the abilities of one that was intially better then him on it (34:18).
• While he is effected by the Suicide Ray, once he got hit again he has gained a slightly better resistance to it and can at least fully dodge them where as before he was taken off guard by it (There should be better examples of him bypassing what effects him before, this is just to get the ball rolling).
• Lupin would initially struggle against one's inventory, only to overpower such to his advantages even if it was cranked all the way up as Lupin defeated the other, and walks away like nothing happened (what a chad. But there's more xD).
• Struggled with enhanced cyborgs but can eventually contend with them even physically, surpassing Cyborg Jigen as well, with his inventory also becoming stronger then before to the point Cyborg Jigen feels pain despite being inorganic.
• Mr. X who engineers Indestructible bodies that even bypassed the Zantesuken can also be an exact physiology of Lupin that overwhelmed him at first, only for Mr. X to no longer keep up Lupin.
• Once he gets stronger, he can fully destroy their inventory consistently (1:01).
• Eventually one shots those whom were much more unpredictable and far more quicker or agile then him initially.
• Hulked out men joked from being moved or effected even by knifes, yet Lupin eventually bypassed his abilities.
• Constantly challenges and would have killed Goemon, who in "Goodbye Partner" had an advanced AI saying Goemon's Zanetsuken shouldn't have been able to cut certain objects after analyzing it, yet Goemon bypassed such (source). The same Goemon would have eventually killed Hawk even giving a vison of it, Hawk can deflect bullets right behind him, leave them sort of suspended in mid-air, and deflect them back at Zenigata who was in extreme pain despite of his Pain Tolerance, Zantesuken also has its own elements (for reference: See Lupin's Zanetsuken Knife on equipment). Goemon can also create danmaku in a single slice (0:03).
• Consistently challenges Zenigata, who can make immediate truthful deductions rather consistently, yet Lupin defies such just as constantly throughout the franchise as mere running gags regardless if Zenigata has his own Toonforce (59:47 and 1:00:43) and other abilities like Teleportation (0:32. He teleported his hat back).
• Mamo despite being thousands of years old plus acquired the knowledge amongst wisdom of all geniuses, scientists, philosophers of history, and claimed to be behind most historical events, still had Lupin eventually keep up with his tricks to the extent Psychic Mamo deemed Lupin a god from his unpredictable nature (Source Gifs?).
• Solved the mystery of the Tower of Babel, when not even members of an advanced alien civilization could in over thousands of years (source).
• In "Daisuke Jigens Gravestone" Lupin discovered that Yael Okuzaki was using a device hidden on his eye that allowed him to see the cameras in the entire city, even though Lupin never saw Okuzaki's device, he was able to create a better one and hacked Okuzaki's (Source Gifs?).
• Agent Nyx aside his senses can also accurately measure the probability of one's capture accurately, yet once more Lupin grew to defy such calculations too rather consistently even in Nyx's bloodlusted states which has a 0% chance of winning, only for Lupin to still deter said calculations even if Nyx purposely handicapped Lupin from walking, Lupin walked away fine and Lupin reveals that Nyx sees the world in slow motion too.
• It takes years with no success to decrypt genius scientist Waturu Uraga's hidden complex codes, only for Lupin to quickly deduce the said hidden code written in different languages of the same scientist capable of implanting a personification of himself inside one's subconscious, which in it's self took as many years in the making too.
• The highly adaptive Leonardo Da Vinci Clone classified as a world threat that is further composed with all the greatest minds of the past from Wataru's invention easily replicated Wataru Uraga's invention but on a more massive scale to the point of making everyone on Italy fall asleep and was going to replace all of those personalities with his own, only for Lupin to not only be the first to wake up despite the larger gap, but after Lupin insterted his persona regardless of how much world altering DaVinci did, Lupin still proved to be the stronger persona and thus fully ruined DaVinci's plans. The best part to seal the deal is that other crew members also scales to Lupin here, they have finally kept up with DaVinci's abilities including Nyx, whom was casually overpowered before by DaVinci even in a bloodlusted state.
• Lupin can intially struggle being exposed to strong magic even down to corrupting one's soul, yet eventually negates such.

• Damage Reduction and Damage Transferal:
When Lupin gets hit, only the weapon has the injuries instead, which Lupin can transfer the damage back into incapacitating the aggressor.

• Resistance Negation:

• Surpassed beings like Cyborg Jigen, his inventory also becoming stronger then before to the point Cyborg Jigen feels pain despite being inorganic.
• There are those whom resist his attacks (Soul Manipulation, Durability Negation, Existence Erasure etc.), and can eventually bypass.

• Time Manipulation:

• Freezing plus shrugging off his own time stop (7:19. Time Stop resistance too), speeds up time to the point they don't realize that Lupin isn't even trying and dispatches them under the said sped up time (25:03), slowed down time again (56:12), has masterfully outfought Zenigata before who also has notable Toonforce (59:47 and 1:00:43), in fact Lupin uses Time Manipulation first to incapacitate trained assassins (53:20). Reminder: Lupin's RE can also surpass one's abilities.
• He has stopped time since Part 1 (5:42) surprisingly consistently (0:51).

• Furthering Stealth Mastery:

• Lupin has already evidenced using his abilities as meticulously sneaky from Teleportation, Duplication, Incapacitations, Time Manipulations (as he has demonstrated, so the audience alone can understand), Plot Manipulation (although the idea was fan suggested, Lupin revealed that he can create episodes that although Zeni acknowledges this, didn't truly know the full picture), being an overall Master Trickster in general even outwitted God.
• Lupin and his gang can vanish from crowds without a trace and appear in another longer location, let alone them knowing that they were even there in the first place.

• Furthering greater Informational Analysis:

• Consistently challenges and evolves against an opponents Info Analysis like Zenigata, who can make immediate truthful deductions rather consistently, yet Lupin defies such just as constantly throughout the franchise as mere running gags regardless if Zenigata has his own Toonforce (59:47 and 1:00:43), other abilities like Teleportation (0:32. He teleported his hat back), and have Reactive Evolution.
• In "Goemon's Bloodspray" Lupin deduced the inner machinations of Goemon's Sixth Sense and what he was doing this whole time, unlocking his fastest sense Lupawn calls "The Realm of the Buddha".
• In "Lupin the First" Lupin managed to quickly figure out the entire laser gauntlet's machinations in moments.

• All-Terrain Hypermobility:

• Leaps this high alongside Fujiko (6:32) also using said acrobatics as attacks (6:42), does these flips again to rob Jigen from his firearms who is the same that has Extrasensory Perception (19:53).
• Very equilibrated enough to leap on top of fast moving vehicles and easily runs across tightropes very consistently.
• Lupin can overall leap large distances regardless of the lack of equilibrium and can balance from debris as seen in Babylon.
• Able to easily keep his balance from just the tips while having his hands full, even during duressing fights.
• Comparably uses his own grappling hook as acrobatic maneuvers even for close saves.
• Maneuvered through the danmaku laser gauntlet, even in spots one wouldn't react to, where as earlier just one beam will delete them from existence.
• Casually flips around and steals from assassins whom weave through the verses bullets in the dark.
• Can triple jump.
• Leaps out of Jigen's bullets who has unparalleled accuracy, even stalemating Goemon whose strikes alone has defied gravity, reach shooting stars, amongst others whom have challenged them throughout.

• Free Movements:

• Can run through the ocean very consistently.
• Defies gravity to save someone very consistently.

• Flight:
Capable of freely floating in the air while carrying bags filled with gold in Part 2 (source?).

• Durability Negation:

• Inventory is shown to do this (1:10:27).
• Can dura neg on his own.
• His shooting alone can reach his title sign and through the 4th wall.

• Statistics Amplification:
He can lower and raise his IQ through eating proteins, thus he has 301 IQ.

• Very high resistances to Social Influencing:

• It's rare that Lupin is deceived by someone due to his ability to read people's expressions and detect lies (source?).
• Doesn't fall for professional acting.
• Can easily see through disguises in a variety of ways.
• Tomoe states that she wasn't able to control Lupin as a kid to make him believe she was his mother, her persuasive words alone also didn't work on Lupin (source?).

• Better establishing how effective his Social Influencing actually is... Master Trickster Status (yes we are going there too with Lupin, hear me out):

• Humorously does reverse psychology on dutiful cops (3:30), even being the very first film has Lupin's gæ influencing rizz working on Jiggin (1:05:27), perfectly disguised himself as someone else via nothing already and convinced just as easily (1:05:57).
• Upscales from whatever Tomoe can do (source?).
• Convinced the hardened Zenigata of "Disguise Syndrome".
• Disarmed/Deters with words alone (yes he LITERALLY pulled a Doctor Who).
• Even if there are woman in deep relationships, Lupin instantly seduces them regardless if they barely knew him.
• Lupin's persuasion at his most nonchalant is still potent enough in just needing glasses to remain undetected, even in modern times he is still widely recognized as the world's 1# thief down to his acknowledged 300 IQ yet as effective that even after revealing himself it took awhile for them to get the jist.
• Since Part 1 he grew to outwit Kyouske who mastered the 4th Dimension, Mamo with his thousands psychic brain who influenced crucial events in history eventually outmatched by Lupin, the evolving Da Vinci Clone who comparably proved to be as much of a challenge only to be outplayed, just overall those who pose a challenge to Lupin's persuasion whom is the same that can detect lies to seeing disguises in a variety of ways have been bested.

• Ice Manipulation Resistances:
Seems to be deterred by being frozen solid, only to budge out of it in fact he has grown stronger to the point of moving and even sneezing out of it.

• Deconstruction resistances (surprisingly):
Tanked weaponry that didn't even disintegrate through him or his disguising let alone inventory alone, even though said weaponry explicitly reduces one to charcoal.

• Resistances to Info Analysis:

• His inventory can now deny Nanomachine Scans (Dead or Alive. Source) and already wears a mask revealing his real face on top of it (Part 5. Source?)
• Consistently challenges Zenigata, who can make immediate truthful deductions rather consistently, yet Lupin defies such just as constantly throughout the franchise as mere running gags regardless if Zenigata has his own Toonforce (59:47 and 1:00:43) and other abilities like Teleportation (0:32. He teleported his hat back) even in modern times.
• Not only was M16 tech unable to identify Lupin going through areas, Agent Nyx aside his senses can also accurately measure the probability of one's capture accurately, yet once more Lupin grew to defy such calculations too rather consistently even in Nyx's bloodlusted states which has a 0% chance of winning, only for Lupin to still deter said calculations even if Nyx purposely handicapped Lupin from walking, Lupin walked away fine and Lupin reveals that Nyx sees the world in slow motion too.

• Resistances to Supernatural Luck (yes really):
Challenges Goemon very consistently and could have killed him in part 6, whose chops alone managed to unnaturally budge passwords amongst boosting other things (So no, this isn't part of a "Vision").

• Resistances to Extrasensory Perception and Precognition:

• Despite Goemon having already defeated the best in the world and has grown stronger by now where in "Goemon's Blood spray" has achieved "the realm of the buddha" to the extent Goemon can send a vison even then admits that he struggles with Lupin, Goemon also hangs out with him constantly as he is one of the strongest in the world and in part 6, Lupin would have immediately killed Goemon, whom was baffled and couldn't keep up.
• In "Part 6. Episode 0" Jigen destroys drones that can predict one's moves, this applies to Lupin as he does face Jigen who also made Goemon struggle, the same can slice these drones with no issues.

• Power Mimicry Resistance:
Mr. X who engineers Indestructible bodies that even bypassed the Zantesuken can also be an exact physiology of Lupin that overwhelmed him at first, only for Mr. X to no longer keep up Lupin.

Potential Self-Substance Type 1 and Cosmic Resistances:
Can breathe and survive the conditions of outer space.

• Perception Manipulation Resistances:
Eventually deterred Nyx many times regardless of Nyx's bloodlusted states, who can always see the world in slow motion (1:46).

• Bettering Resistance to Mind Manipulation:
Was being mentally controlled by Tomoe, only to reveal he has long broken out of it (Part 6. Episodes 23-24?)

• Resistances to Telepathy:
Lupin's mind couldn't be properly read let alone ever dream, Psychic Mamo deemed Lupin a god from his unpredictable nature.

• Resistances to Sleep Manipulation:
The first to wake up and deemed worthy by an evolving Da Vinci whom replicated Wataru's invention on a greater scale.

• Resistances to Existence Erasure, Transmutation, Soul Manipulation, Durability Negation:
Survived mishaps from his own.

• Magic, further Soul Manipulation, and Corruption resistances:
Lupin can be exposed to strong magic even down to corrupting one's soul, yet his he eventually negates such.

• Elemental, Air Manipulation, and Danmaku Resistance (Yes, really):
Although injured, Lupin survived, wasn't pushed away, and only one slice was created from a bloodlusted Goemon's slashes whom can dissipate elemental abilities, disperse forest fires to Tornados, creates multiple cuts in a single slice (0:03) very consistently, even through other objects and can create two air strikes in a single slash which not only cuts a dozen targets but also vanishes one's clothing as it is, etc.

Cosmic Awareness Resistances:
Fools his creator.

Inventory (most potent to add thus far):
Something important to note already is that Lupin can just pull these many inventories via Teleportation and whatever he desires in general. Whether he instinctively brings a frying pan out of nothing to use as a weapon, to larger sizes very consistently, amongst other already established toony absurdities he's capable of since Psychokinetic Strats and Lupin Zero (homie can bring out a plunger to stick into surfaces, amongst other things he has in mind). Therefore I propose that they don't become optional anymore too, just make it equipment if anything if the situation desires it.

• Fear Manipulation and Illusion Creation:
Posseses strong gas from the Fumas which causes fear and hallucinations even on those as powerful and astute like Jigen and Goemon.

• Deconstruction:
Via Mercury Bullet.

• Limited Clairvoyance, further Non-Physical Interaction, Danmaku, Enhanced Attack Reflection, Air Manipulation, Elemental Negation, Absorption, and high temperature resistances via Zanetsuken Knife:
Has a piece of Goemon's Zanetsuken that he turned into a knife which should have the same properties as Goemon's, the sword can disperse forest fires to Tornados, his air strikes alone cuts a dozen targets, negate one's elemental abilities amongst absorbing magic, can also create multiple cuts in a single slice (0:03), Mamo's lasers heated metal structures to hot red yet had no effect even to the smallest piece of the Zantetsuken and is also undeterred from striking lighting mid air many times.

• Invulnerability via the Pycal Formula:
The Formula can keep the user Invulnerable from virtually anything for several days (Part 1. episode 2).

• Additional Monocle Hacking:
Built a Multipurpose Monocle that can hack a car remotely, order plane tickets, hack identification, security systems, perform advanced comparisons and internet searches. Should have remixed the coding of his grandfathers that can crack anything.

• Time Travel and BFR:
Via Kyouskes Time Machine, he can shoot a beam to warp them through different time periods while causing strange alterations (like removing spaces entierly. Source?).

• Spaceflight:
His Fiat 500 can transform into a mechanical spaceship.

IQ Upgrade Additions. Likely Supergenius (bear with me):

• Those whom are the most anciently psychic that also possesses magic, mastered the 4th Dimensional Plane to their advantage, even of comparable challenge to the superior mentioned thus far, have been surpassed by Lupin and also doesn't always need to see one's own inventory, ideas, and abilities that he ends up evolving better one's.
• Masterful in using the environment to his advantage and thinking on his feet.
• His deductions already borders on Superhuman in staying ahead of Zenigata's deductions, seeing right through an opponents tricks and given the time he can cleverly use their own abilities against them on the fly.
• Made an operable Spaceship out of his Fiat 500.
• Has history proving to be ahead of Supercomputers many countless times and better himself as the generations follow.
• Invented universal keys.
• Fooled God (Monkey Punch).

Spoiler: feats in dire need to be calculated

Feats in need to be calculated:
AP/Dura:

• Scales to Goemon whom can casually cut nukes, the same who's moon was too bright for his liking, therefore dispersing 2 clouds large enough to cover half the moon (remember that Goemon's casual air strike can cut alone) Although Goemon cuts the moon in half, for real this time? (2:28) and I don't know what episode this is from, but accordingly "during his fight with a werewolf he did cut the moon"? (the verse has already operated on absurdest Toonforce so some consistency can be made).
• Lupin survives the epicenter of a black hole.

In Lupin's Durability: Regeneration amongst Duplication (Can duplicate from nothing), Immortalities, Toon Force, Plot Manipulation, and Damage Reduction alongside Damage Transferal makes him incredibly difficult to kill.

Speed:

• Lupin manages to push a bullet fast enough that light comes out of it.
• Moves so fast that these lasers couldn't keep up which Jigen also does while submerged underwater (source) that not only track, but are instantaneously fast tech (this is even more notable considering the verse is actually incredibly advanced as it is).
• Lupin and the bad guy manages to still move despite of the black holes force.
• Scales to Goemon, who regardless of just waking up still deflects this close ranged laser (Lupin does the same after he evolved).
• Has history of besting Supercomputers that also predicts one's moves as it is since part 1 many countless times (Part 3: episode 23), outpacing even demolishing one in combat, also evolved past Mr. X who became an exact copy of himself, and furthermore says he is ahead of the generations that follow (Part 5. Where he reveals his face he said something like this). Supercomputers in general are this astonishingly fast (recall that the Lupin Verse is far more advanced then normal).

LS:

• Pushed back this massive blocky trap for awhile.
• Shakes plus disables a plane by throwing a wrench and also tipping said plane by just landing on it.
• The verses bullets are heavy enough to obliterate tanks whole for starters (Part lll Intro), something the gang amongst Goemon have no leverage getting past over the years.
• Lupin and Jigen manages to lift even push this log that is heavy enough to shake an entire building, in fact Jigen threw it so hard that the log also shatters and still shook said building.
• Restrains Zenigato very consistently who via just arching his back maintained the weight of trains.
• Lupin and the bad guy manages to budge despite being in a black hole.

Updating on his Standard Tactics:
Lupin will keep his distance and head for his Walther P38, which should anything miss it will always come back like a boomerang to hit the opponent, he deflects back one's inventory cartoonishly which is something that he can do with his bullets but can also generally deflect back at an opponent. Can ignore durability with his inventory alone (1:10:27) though even then the attacks he inflicts can also incapacitate should the opponent not resist, undergo erasures, have their soul effected (2:12), with his shooting alone reaching his title sign and through the 4th wall. Should Lupin get hit, only the weapon has the injuries instead, which Lupin can transfer the damage back into incapacitating the aggressor.
Stern reminder that: Lupin has iconically defied physics very consistently throughout the franchises history and is always prone to using such when endangered.

Lupin can also quickly evolve past opponents in a variety of versatile ways even to those that already have an evolution, such as X copying his body that overwhelmed at first only to be overpowered, and the highly adaptive DaVinci Clone (see the Reactive Evolution category for further details).

Overall: Lupin has countless evidence in using his abilities as meticulously sneakily even offensively and defensively, from Teleportation, Duplication, Incapacitations, Time Manipulations (as he has demonstrated in Strange Psychokinetic Strategy, so the audience alone can understand), Plot Manipulation (although the idea was fan suggested, Lupin revealed that he can create and control episodes that even Zeni also acknowledges, yet didn't truly know the full picture), amongst spawning other inventory regardless of how small or big to the protection for the given situations, being an overall Master Trickster in general regardless if one is ancient or from the future with hax straight from the 4th Dimensional Plane, etc.

Howdy, I'm the crazy guy who mentioned the Tomoe stuff, in this scene we are told that Lupin is put under Mind Control, which Jigen doesn't believe Lupin would fall for, and are given information that Social Influence can basically be used as a form of mind control if used on Tomoe's level. Later on Tomoe and Lupin are confronted where Tomoe explains on how she created the most layered mind hax I've seen without the need of a sharingan. This also doubles as evidence that Lupin had a resistance to mind control since he was a kid, due to the fact Tomoe couldn't manipulate him into believing she was his mother (in the same scene she outright convinces a random maid that the maid was in fact Tomoe and gets her killed) In the next episode it's revealed that Lupin had long since freed himself from the control due to the bond he shares with his gang. It is then finally revealed what truly happened decades ago, as Lupin has broken all of the influence Tomoe had used on him since he was a kid, and remembered all of the events he had forgotten due to it. Putting together all his memories, he was able to deduce Tomoe was never his mother and that she was just bat shit insane.

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

Also, as a bit of a side note, this scene should 100% be added to the profile on it's own

1. It looks cool
2. It actually helps his already stacked intelligence list in a new and unique way since it not only shows every single language Lupin can speak, but also saying he has completely different thought patterns and cognizance for all 9 of them
3. It really looks cool

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Howdy, I'm the crazy guy who mentioned the Tomoe stuff, in this scene we are told that Lupin is put under Mind Control, which Jigen doesn't believe Lupin would fall for, and are given information that Social Influence can basically be used as a form of mind control if used on Tomoe's level. Later on Tomoe and Lupin are confronted where Tomoe explains on how she created the most layered mind hax I've seen without the need of a sharingan. This also doubles as evidence that Lupin had a resistance to mind control since he was a kid, due to the fact Tomoe couldn't manipulate him into believing she was his mother (in the same scene she outright convinces a random maid that the maid was in fact Tomoe and gets her killed) In the next episode it's revealed that Lupin had long since freed himself from the control due to the bond he shares with his gang. It is then finally revealed what truly happened decades ago, as Lupin has broken all of the influence Tomoe had used on him since he was a kid, and remembered all of the events he had forgotten due to it. Putting together all his memories, he was able to deduce Tomoe was never his mother and that she was just bat shit insane.

Also, as a bit of a side note, this scene should 100% be added to the profile on it's own

1. It looks cool
2. It actually helps his already stacked intelligence list in a new and unique way since it not only shows every single language Lupin can speak, but also saying he has completely different thought patterns and cognizance for all 9 of them
3. It really looks cool

Hi there!

This is really cool and stuff, but as I said before, right now I am in a jiffy in general (Heads up and I cannot be the only one anyways - Again I DO NOT AGREE with the nerf of a verdict given, in fact that 9-A is an insult and the fact they made HAWK 9-C further solidifies me in finishing this later... I was not in any mood to competently reply back from said BS unfortunately). I will be sending Fireld some stuff later on what I will be doing however and in update on feats as is, I am not dead yet. The heads up is always nice and the feats are neat. Thank you for your cooperation's lads. It's been rough.

 

[Tonygameman]

This reminded me of something, remember that eclipse contraption? (take this with a big grain of salt, or use it in another debating website because it's likely it'll be passed as a outlier here)

Spoiler

It appeared that the direct feat is much better than a black hole itself (as the gang wouldn't scale to it's gravitional binding energy, but rather Lupin resisting the pull). The eclipse apparently sucked in all the clouds in the sky (most noticeable around a climax right before his "Disney death"), and considering how those clouds seem to extend to the horizon with Lupin surviving the pull before floating back with an anti-gravity orb, he should scale to their kinetic energy.

Kaiser predicted in our Discord conversation that this may end around 7-B or something (no Zantetsuken needed).

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

This reminded me of something, remember that eclipse contraption? (take this with a big grain of salt, or use it in another debating website because it's likely it'll be passed as a outlier here)

Spoiler

It appeared that the direct feat is much better than a black hole itself (as the gang wouldn't scale to it's gravitional binding energy, but rather Lupin resisting the pull). The eclipse apparently sucked in all the clouds in the sky (most noticeable around a climax right before his "Disney death"), and considering how those clouds seem to extend to the horizon with Lupin surviving the pull before floating back with an anti-gravity orb, he should scale to their kinetic energy.

Kaiser predicted in our Discord conversation that this may end around 7-B or something (no Zantetsuken needed).

This is actually really consistent with what I may reply for later.

Honestly one can still go for Planetary Lupin as most of the verse outside what is known is STILL BUILT DIFFERENT (the device still destroys the world as Stretch told me anyways)... But we are dealing with the same lousy people who nerf Mario into Island... Despite surviving his zucc of a black hole that warped two focking galaxies at the very bloody least, of which any party can do, and will counter it with the most hard arse sheerly hypocritical explanations.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Oh and one more thing... What do you suggest a newcomer into watching Lupin lll? One friend of mine may have become interested. I at first had in mind to suggest Lupin Part 2, but then what if the user likes it more smooth like Caligostro? Or more outlandish like Mamo? Idk.

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Oh and one more thing... What do you suggest a newcomer into watching Lupin lll? One friend of mine may have become interested. I at first had in mind to suggest Lupin Part 2, but then what if the user likes it more smooth like Caligostro? Or more outlandish like Mamo? Idk.

The First isn't a bad entry point. Cagliostro is also quite good, as is part 2 in general.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

The First isn't a bad entry point. Cagliostro is also quite good, as is part 2 in general.

Noted.

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

Oh and one more thing... What do you suggest a newcomer into watching Lupin lll? One friend of mine may have become interested. I at first had in mind to suggest Lupin Part 2, but then what if the user likes it more smooth like Caligostro? Or more outlandish like Mamo? Idk.

Don't know if it's a bit late but my usual go-to options are Cagliostro or Episode 0: The First Contact, since both movies offer a good chance to introduce the main cast to people without the story just defaulting to "Lupin and the Gang do the usual thing, you know the routine by now". After that I usually just ask them if they would prefer an older cartoon that you'd watch on a random Saturday, or if they'd prefer a more modern story with an actual plot that ties it together. Naturally these two roads either lead to part 2 or 4 respectively.

 

[Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E]

Oh I also should have asked earlier Ok... This hasn't been brought up often surprisingly, but how about Manga? Safe to say that after the introductions given, the Manga couldn't hurt, though I question as to how much there is of that too.

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

Oh I also should have asked earlier Ok... This hasn't been brought up often surprisingly, but how about Manga? Safe to say that after the introductions given, the Manga couldn't hurt, though I question as to how much there is of that too.

The manga can be very hit or miss with people, mainly due to the very different vibe it gives in general. Due to it being far more adult in nature (with there being, less just say, a fair amount of "not consensual activities"), characters acting noticeably different than their more modern counterparts (Murder Hobo Lupin, Goemon being rather inconsistent with him being highly emotional, ranging from short tempered, crying a lot, bit happy-go-lucky, and him also being far more willing to seduce women, and Jigen just being an outright worse version than his anime self, not having any fame to his gunslinging name nor did he get along with Lupin alot, as he was much more of just a henchman, plus also being a bit of a sleeze with women too..... though he has part 2 Lupin luck with them and often just gets beat up for it), and with the circumstances being drastically off-brand from the norm (back when Lupin was actually filthy rich and before Miyazaki made him the type of guy who probably built his gadgets in some guy's garage he was renting out for a night) which causes it to focus far more on Lupin actually having a gang and Zenigata actually having an organization to target.

If they want a darker, more adult and sexualize Lupin III, I would more-so point towards "The Woman called Fujiko" and it's related movies simply for the style and the fact that the characters are far more realized for it. Though as for how much of the manga there is, the original original has 2 parts, Lupin III and Lupin III New Adventures, (should also point out that Fujiko just doesn't exist for like the first half of Lupin III and is just a random women every single time), the English release is under Tokyopop with 14 volumes of content, however there is no official source to read it all on and Tokyopop took quite a few liberties in translating it (changing the chapter names into references, changing lines into jokes, courser language or using 1960s 'beatnik' talk inconsistently, and just having character name typos)

 

[Fireld]

My friend just shared this on Discord.

Instantly remembered ^ after listening to this

 

[Fireld]

 

[TartaChocholate]

Well, my personal experience went kinda like this: while I've known of Lupin for a long time (more specifically I first read of him in an anime magazine article describing Lupin himself and his buddies Jigen and Goemon), I first saw Part 1 dubbed in my country, but paid little attention to it, between being very old and the dub being very swing and miss. Years later Part 5 aired on TV and I actually stumbled upon the first episode and got hooked, thought it was pretty good, and especially pretty darn fun. After that checked the newest series and came across The Woman Called Fujiko Mine and started watching it given Fujiko became one of my favorites and was really taken aback with how darker and grittier it was compared to the more lighthearted action show I saw before.

After that I learned of the movies in the Fujiko continuity and watched Goemon's Spray of Blood. Holy hell that one was intense. Goemon was always an interesting case, given he's an Akira Kurosawa Jidai Geki film protagonist, with the abilities of a shonen hero in a pulpy action story.

After that I started stumbling upon compilations in Youtube about part 2 like "Lupin Part 2 out of context" or "Why Lupin Part 2 feels like an Abridged Series", "Goemon saying the darnest things", "Jigen being awesome" and I was surprised of how wacky everythign was and quite frankly absolutely hilarious, so I started watching part 2. And while very comedic, some episodes can get very intense. Also watching Lupin Zero.

It's frankly quite impressive how malleable the cast and setting can be.

 

[Fireld]

Just watched Another Page on TV and the post-credits scene was crazy! Bet sb probably already brought it up in the old thread.

Started making a few gifs for Zenigata since his page is lacking in links.

 

[Tonygameman]

Tier 9-A Partners in Crime Tournament; Round 1 Match 3: Lupin and Koichi VS Allan and Charlie (0-0-0)

Lupin and Koichi VS Allan and Charlie Tournament Match Rules Speed is equalized. Characters have their standard equipment. Battles take place at an empty construction site Combatants start 30 meters away from each other. Lupin and Koichi: 0 Charlie and Allan: 0 Incon: 0

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[Detective_Blizzard]

Been a long while since I mentioned it, but what are the chances the profiles get updated? The profiles for Jigen, Zenigata, debatably Fujiko, and especially Lupin seem lacking in a few regards.

Jigen is missing a plethora of stuff from Extrasensory Perception (the feat Lupin has quite literally has Jigen and Goemon in it), Social Influencing, Limited Sound Manipulation (he has also used disguises and copied people's voices various times, that should just be on all of the profiles since even Zenigata has done this trick before), Pressure Points (Lupin's profile directly credits being comparable to Jigen for it). As well as optional equipment for explosives cause that man has used them more than enough times for it to be useable, hell he's used them the most out of the entire gang.

Zenigata meanwhile is missing the usual Lupin nonsense mentioned prior, but also things like Rage Boosting (it's been shown many times he's buffed by rage, his limited resurrection is built on it as well as the fact he has feats for getting noticeably stronger going from death's door to stronger than ever from it), as well as basic things like his bloody car being considered optional, if not standard equipment (the man is almost never seen without a police car, and it's a bit surprising that nobody has their cars as equipment nor any other vehicle save for Lupin having a few flight options)

Fujiko (as well as Lupin) is just a case where her stuff is listed as optional equipment in abilities when it really shouldn't alongside her missing powers. Both her and Lupin don't have anything in their equipment sections that imply any of their equipment is optional, but their abilities treat it like ALL of their equipment is optional which also isn't true. For starters on some things that are just missing outrite, Fujiko is missing Smoke Manipulation from her smoke bombs, Explosive Manipulation from bombs, Pressure Points for scaling to reasons above (also I'm pretty sure she's knocked people out in one hit before), as well as just minor stuff like random equipment she has (ex: Episode 149 of Part 2 where she has an electrified scimitar....... side note Goemon should probably get a resistance to Electricity due to surviving that) or facts like her being fluent in multiple languages.

And for Lupin...... well we already have that big ol' list of abilities that was posted a long while ago (I don't agree with all of them, but it is a good starting point), the Tomoe mind control shit, as well as the entire problem with Lupin's equipment somehow being both completely optional yet also standard. That altogether however is a much bigger overhaul and likely would be addressed last since it would require multiple people looking it over as opposed to the more basic shit the other three have.

Also on a unrelated side note, what is Lupin's and Fujiko's mind control meant to be for, I know of a few examples Lupin has but I don't know which one the profile is specifically referring to due to some of the ones I know needing some form of equipment to use?

 

[Tonygameman]

Lupin & Koichi vs The Hat Kid & The Empress

Assumptions: Combatants start 30 meters away from each other and not within each others line of sight Speed Equalized All combatants are 9-A All combatants have their Standard Equipment The battle's location is in a desolate, still functioning Nightclub Otherwise, Standard Battle Assumptions...

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[Tots_Real]

Hey did I ever post this calc I did a while ago here?

A Cut is Not Only a Cut.

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I should probably get it evaluated.

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

Lupin & Koichi vs The Hat Kid & The Empress

Assumptions: Combatants start 30 meters away from each other and not within each others line of sight Speed Equalized All combatants are 9-A All combatants have their Standard Equipment The battle's location is in a desolate, still functioning Nightclub Otherwise, Standard Battle Assumptions...

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We need more votes for this for anyone willing to look at it

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

1 more vote needed for grace

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

2 votes needed for this

Partners in Crime: Tier 9-A Duo Tournament; Round 3 Match 1: Kim & Shego VS Lupin & Koichi (0-5-0)

Assumptions: Combatants start 30 meters away from each other and out of sight. Speed Equalized All Combatants are restricted to 9-A All combatants have their Standard Equipment The battle's location takes place in Crawford (There's no zombies) Otherwise, Standard Battle Assumptions...

vsbattles.com

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

Been a long while since I mentioned it, but what are the chances the profiles get updated? The profiles for Jigen, Zenigata, debatably Fujiko, and especially Lupin seem lacking in a few regards.

Jigen is missing a plethora of stuff from Extrasensory Perception (the feat Lupin has quite literally has Jigen and Goemon in it), Social Influencing, Limited Sound Manipulation (he has also used disguises and copied people's voices various times, that should just be on all of the profiles since even Zenigata has done this trick before), Pressure Points (Lupin's profile directly credits being comparable to Jigen for it). As well as optional equipment for explosives cause that man has used them more than enough times for it to be useable, hell he's used them the most out of the entire gang.

Zenigata meanwhile is missing the usual Lupin nonsense mentioned prior, but also things like Rage Boosting (it's been shown many times he's buffed by rage, his limited resurrection is built on it as well as the fact he has feats for getting noticeably stronger going from death's door to stronger than ever from it), as well as basic things like his bloody car being considered optional, if not standard equipment (the man is almost never seen without a police car, and it's a bit surprising that nobody has their cars as equipment nor any other vehicle save for Lupin having a few flight options)

Fujiko (as well as Lupin) is just a case where her stuff is listed as optional equipment in abilities when it really shouldn't alongside her missing powers. Both her and Lupin don't have anything in their equipment sections that imply any of their equipment is optional, but their abilities treat it like ALL of their equipment is optional which also isn't true. For starters on some things that are just missing outrite, Fujiko is missing Smoke Manipulation from her smoke bombs, Explosive Manipulation from bombs, Pressure Points for scaling to reasons above (also I'm pretty sure she's knocked people out in one hit before), as well as just minor stuff like random equipment she has (ex: Episode 149 of Part 2 where she has an electrified scimitar....... side note Goemon should probably get a resistance to Electricity due to surviving that) or facts like her being fluent in multiple languages.

And for Lupin...... well we already have that big ol' list of abilities that was posted a long while ago (I don't agree with all of them, but it is a good starting point), the Tomoe mind control shit, as well as the entire problem with Lupin's equipment somehow being both completely optional yet also standard. That altogether however is a much bigger overhaul and likely would be addressed last since it would require multiple people looking it over as opposed to the more basic shit the other three have.

Also on a unrelated side note, what is Lupin's and Fujiko's mind control meant to be for, I know of a few examples Lupin has but I don't know which one the profile is specifically referring to due to some of the ones I know needing some form of equipment to use?

Made a revision thread for all of this

Lupin III Series Profile Revisions

So, the profiles on the gang are messed up in general and this is meant to address these points and hopefully give corrections to them since these profiles are just outdated badly. This will be going from characters with the least amount to add to the most Daisuke Jigen Jigen is missing quite...

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[Detective_Blizzard]

Made a revision thread for all of this

Lupin III Series Profile Revisions

So, the profiles on the gang are messed up in general and this is meant to address these points and hopefully give corrections to them since these profiles are just outdated badly. This will be going from characters with the least amount to add to the most Daisuke Jigen Jigen is missing quite...

vsbattles.com

Everyone in the verse (not you Hawk) has been updated with a snazzy new coat of paint ignore my constant mistakes made in the page history, this was my first

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

I'll probably give each character their own closer look when I get the time, since this revision was simply to correct obvious errors and to include what I personally have already found

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

Oh yeah, @Stefano4444 something I noticed when updating everyone, why does Jigen have hundreds of meters for his revolver? If that's valid then when I give Lupin a proper update later on then I would list it for him via the Jigen scaling.

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

Currently making a revision thread for all the stuff that the Lupin Isekai manga has to offer. The grand majority of it is untranslated so I'm relying on the Wiki's translators for it but by god is this going to get crazy.