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Luke vs Ahsoka

Honestly, despite statements to the contrary, I feel like it's more consistent with the lore that Luke stalemated Vader, but Vader was holding back due to being conflicted. So I don't think that him stalemating Vader puts him above characters like Ahsoka or Kenobi inherently, more like in the same tier.

Having said that, I think Luke would take this. He still fought Prime Vader while Ahsoka fought a Vader a few years prior to his prime and was solidly outclassed.
 
It's all but stated to be the case.


Having said that, Luke still wins. He fought a stronger Vader evenly that was perhaps somewhat holding back. Ahsoka fought a weaker Vader going all out and was losing. I think Luke should take it. He has more force power and talent to draw from setting all other factors aside.
 
Luke Wins, while it's true Vader was holding back, people tend to forget so was Luke, he was consistently avoiding hurting his father and only lashed out once he talked about bringing Leia to the darkside.

and the Vader Luke fought was superior to the one Ahsoka fought, I see no reason for the gap to be large enough for Ahsoka to win.
 
BruceTheBatman said:
It's all but stated to be the case.


Having said that, Luke still wins. He fought a stronger Vader evenly that was perhaps somewhat holding back. Ahsoka fought a weaker Vader going all out and was losing. I think Luke should take it. He has more force power and talent to draw from setting all other factors aside.
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She definetly had the upper hand in that battle. She literally was making sure Ezra was safe, then fighting vader and imo she would've been holding back. He however had sith eyes and was going to kill her. That last part is fact though.
 
Shadowbokunohero said:
Luke Wins, while it's true Vader was holding back, people tend to forget so was Luke, he was consistently avoiding hurting his father and only lashed out once he talked about bringing Leia to the darkside.
and the Vader Luke fought was superior to the one Ahsoka fought, I see no reason for the gap to be large enough for Ahsoka to win.
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Yea, but again Vader was holding back the whole time even past Luke's lashing out, I would honestly say Lukes inexperience at the time leaves him inept against the Ataru style's overwhelming abilities


I have Ahsoka for better dueling
 
She definetly had the upper hand in that battle. She literally was making sure Ezra was safe, then fighting vader and imo she would've been holding back. He however had sith eyes and was going to kill her. That last part is fact though.

...Sith always have Sith eyes. It's not a sign he wasn't holding back.
 
The Wright Way said:
She definetly had the upper hand in that battle. She literally was making sure Ezra was safe, then fighting vader and imo she would've been holding back. He however had sith eyes and was going to kill her. That last part is fact though.
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...Sith always have Sith eyes. It's not a sign he wasn't holding back.
not true... his eyes were reverted re-watch
 
Why did this turn into "Luke vs Ahsoka in regards to Vader"? Their respective confrontations had different context and took place years apart. Vader by RoTJ is considered to be the most powerful he had ever been--just that Luke was beginning to surpass him (I think that's just Legends, but the film somewhat supports this idea).

in terms of power Luke is absolutely > Ahsoka if being directly compared. Meanwhile, Ahsoka is more agile and just as fast (Both being compared to the likes of Vader). The issue lies in experience and who would last longer.

Ahsoka is more experienced, but due to being an Ataru specialist, if she doesn't end the fight quickly, it will become more and more difficult to put an end to Luke's resistance.

I will go with Luke since he's at least capable enough to defend himself from Ahsoka's onslaught, and is the more powerful of the two. He only loses outright in agility (but not severely). It's pretty High-diff.
 
@Grim - Yeah, it's a problem. You can take their respective fights to determine their strengths and weaknesses, but you can't use the comparison against that one opponent to suggest "okay, Luke matched Vader before using the Dark Side. Ahsoka lost to Vader. Luke wins"
 
CinCameron20 said:
@Grim - Yeah, it's a problem. You can take their respective fights to determine their strengths and weaknesses, but you can't use the comparison against that one opponent to suggest "okay, Luke matched Vader before using the Dark Side. Ahsoka lost to Vader. Luke wins"
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Both of those statements would be wrong anyway. If we are going off of the fights we've seen from these two technically Ahsoka is defiently more skilled, seeing as she's faced off against many extremely talented saber wielders |Maul, Kenobi, Anakin, Ventress, and Grevious| and excluding the two Jedi she didn't leave with any serious injury...And held off a force attack from Sidious albiet lost in the end.

Going off of Luke's notable showings he only has Unreliable scaling to Vader (In which both were holding back), and getting fondled by Sidious.

Technically if we're using showings alone. Ahsoka claps.
 
When was it stated that Vader was holding back?

Btw Luke FRA
 
GarrixianDude100193 said:
When was it stated that Vader was holding back?
Btw Luke FRA
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Never directly, but just read the context. It's obvious Vader was conflicted. His body language is less dominant, his talk is noticably less terse, and he takes initiative far less. He's basically goading Luke to kill him because he knows how Palpatine operates now, and that Luke is his intended replacement
 
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