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I go for goku, his ki blasts can help him get out of the force from Luke, and shatterpoint doesn't help since goku doesn't have any weakness at all.
 
LTB2000 said:
I go for goku, his ki blasts can help him get out of the force from Luke, and shatterpoint doesn't help since goku doesn't have any weakness at all.
1) Okay, but Force Choke isn't something Luke tends to use.

2) That's wanking. Goku has tons of weaknesses and his body has weak points such as the heart and brain. His anatomy is very much like a humans (otherwise he couldn't mate with one)
 
LTB2000 said:
I go for goku, his ki blasts can help him get out of the force from Luke, and shatterpoint doesn't help since goku doesn't have any weakness at all.
i vote for goku!!!!

for that reason.
 
With teleportation and precog, pretty easily, esp. seeing how even with speed equalized, he'd be fast enough to escape an explosion like it was nothing, as both, Luke's speed and Goku's speed trumps it by a large margin. Main reason I'm saying Luke is while both can one shot the other, Luke has wayyy more ways to do it, with his wide array of durability ignoring weapons and abiliies. Combine that with an omnipresent force, he can do whatever he wants to Goku. He can crush his organs, mindwipe him, turn him into whatever he wants, soulmess him, and iirc, the lightsaber itself ignores durability. Shatterpoint would even work too, as it could tell that Goku relies on ki and his whole guard down thing, along with the time limit and drawback on SSBX10KK
 
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Also, why would goku lower his guard on an opponent he never met before.
He doesn't need to do that, he just knows that it would help. He has many many other ways to take him down that doesn't revolve around guard lowering, like all of the things I listed, or astral manipulation.

Actually, illusions would make him lower his guard.
 
Metals in star wars can resist it due to their atomic structure, that doesn't apply to Goku.

Can you explain how the storm troopers can die in one shot if it can be resisted with atomic structure?
 
LTB2000 said:
Metals in star wars can resist it due to their atomic structure, that doesn't apply to Goku.
Can you explain how the storm troopers can die in one shot if it can be resisted with atomic structure?
Because the armor they wear doesn't have resistance to lightsabers like Mandalorian Iron/Cortosis or Beskar does.
 
Well that's really stupid. If Palpatine was able to have the technology to turn Anakin into Darth Vader, then he should've done the same thing with the rest of the empire.
 
Speed equalized? Then the guy with precog and the ability to rupture internal organs by thinking about it. Luke takes it, he might get one shoted, but with precog, he will be able to avoid the attacks and then use his powers accordingly.
 
On one hand, a bloodlusted Goku would go straight for the kill, and if he lands a single hit Luke is dead.

On the other, a bloodlusted Luke would go straight for the kill too, which is something he could succeed at given his hax.

I'm undecided on who wins this.
 
^ Speed is equalized, dude.

I'm going with Luke, I think his mind hax can shut down Goku pretty swiftly, and BFR him to high heavens.

Yet again, both parties will go for the kill form the get go and totally could so it could go either way.
 
Nope but he has the haxes. It's a haxes vs power debate and I am going with goku better range could spam could use instant transmission then punch Luke which will kill him
 
Doesn't need to be a Universe buster to fry Gokus mind.

Also, Luke did hold off Abeloth, who has some vague statements about being a Universe buster IIRC. They weren't accepted here, but its something.
 
I'd like to vote for like here, but why exactly wouldn't goku just aim down and use a continent level attack or something to catch luke in the aoe?
 
I vote Goku simply for Solar Flare + Kienzan combo. Luke would die instantly. It doesn't matter if stats are equalized.
 
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