Luffy vs Alien X

[Spilxson2]

Battle takes place in an empty field

Starting distance is 20m

Gear 5 Luffy vs Low 5-B Alien X (Reboot)

Speed is equalized

Who wins?

Rubber Man: Lenyo456

Alien L:

Nami shows up and one shots both of them: Spectral69420, Spilxson2

 

[Spectral69420]

Doesn't Luffy speedblitz?

 

[SeijiSetto]

Doesn't Luffy speedblitz?

He does, yes.

 

[Spilxson2]

I just find it hilarious how there's not enough evidence to say Alien X doesn't have organs for Luffy to destroy

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

 

[SlendVeny]

I just find it hilarious how there's not enough evidence to say Alien X doesn't have organs for Luffy to destroy

Wait, why would he have them? His body clearly functions differently. Bro don't even got a mouth.

 

[Spilxson2]

Wait, why would he have them? His body clearly functions differently. Bro don't even got a mouth.

Doesn't matter. No proof that he doesn't have organs in the reboot

 

[Spilxson2]

 

[Spectral69420]

He does, yes.

Can he even harm Alien X? Alien X upscales vastly from H6A+

 

[SeijiSetto]

Can he even harm Alien X? Alien X upscales vastly from H6A+

don't think so
alien X is >>> 20 exatons i think
luffy's bajrang gun (his strongest move) is a hair above baseline H6-A, 4.49 petatons
so yeah there's 4 orders of magnitude between them there, it's gonna be like getting tapped by a fly

 

[Spectral69420]

Incon FRA ig

 

[Spilxson2]

Can he even harm Alien X? Alien X upscales vastly from H6A+

Luffy has 2 forms of Durability Negation. Making Alien X Rubbery or Internal Destruction with Haki

 

[SlendVeny]

Doesn't matter. No proof that he doesn't have organs in the reboot

Burden of proof falllacy

 

[SlendVeny]

Luffy has 2 forms of Durability Negation. Making Alien X Rubbery or Internal Destruction with Haki

Doesn't matter, he can't break through the force field.

 

[Spilxson2]

Doesn't matter, he can't break through the force field.

He's probably too fast for Alien X to even put one up

 

[SeijiSetto]

Luffy has 2 forms of Durability Negation. Making Alien X Rubbery or Internal Destruction with Haki

it's not complete dura neg though, is it
it won't work on people massively more durable than he is, will it?
i don't read one piece but i vaguely remember luffy saying regular buso infusion was "too shallow" to hurt kaido, obviously he's using conqueror's infusion here but shouldn't the point still stand?

 

[SlendVeny]

He's probably too fast for Alien X to even put one up

From 200 meters away?

 

[Spilxson2]

From 200 meters away?

It's Relativistic vs FTL in Base Form and higher with Gears 2, 4 and 5 along with higher reactions due to Observation Haki

 

[SeijiSetto]

He's probably too fast for Alien X to even put one up

slendveny is right
iirc luffy is >8.74c in G5, Alien X is >0.15c
speed diff is 58.3x, which is like human running vs a soundwave
i'm pretty sure you could react to an echo given 200 metres

 

[Spilxson2]

Incon FRA ig

Counted I guess

 

[Spilxson2]

slendveny is right
iirc luffy is >8.74c in G5, Alien X is >0.15c
speed diff is 58.3x, which is like human running vs a supercar
i'm pretty sure you could dodge a supercar given 200 metres

Alright it's 30 meters now

 

[SeijiSetto]

Alright it's 30 meters now

i changed the metaphor, supercar was a bad comparison it's more like a soundwave
don't think it matters but still

 

[Spilxson2]

How often does Alien X go for attacks that aren't physical? Pretty sure that none of his punches will do anything to Luffy so he'll most likely use Telekinesis or Earth Manipulation instead

 

[Lenyo456]

How often does Alien X go for attacks that aren't physical? Pretty sure that none of his punches will do anything to Luffy so he'll most likely use Telekinesis or Earth Manipulation instead

Probably telekinesis, but I really don't see anything Alien X does that can hurt Luffy, especially in Gear 5, Luffy blitz and one-shot i guess

 

[SeijiSetto]

Probably telekinesis, but I really don't see anything Alien X does that can hurt Luffy, especially in Gear 5, Luffy blitz and one-shot i guess

Luffy can't one-shot. Alien X's dura is >>>4400x higher than Bajrang Gun's (which is Luffy's strongest move) AP. I don't think any amount of Conqueror's infusion will be able to negate that gap.

If Luffy uses dura negging hax like rubber transmutation or whatever, then sure, maybe, but he ain't doin shit with physicals.

 

[Lenyo456]

Luffy can't one-shot. Alien X's dura is >>>4400x higher than Bajrang Gun's (which is Luffy's strongest move) AP. I don't think any amount of Conqueror's infusion will be able to negate that gap.

If Luffy uses dura negging hax like rubber transmutation or whatever, then sure, maybe, but he ain't doin shit with physicals.

Oh true, I apologize, I just woke up ;w;

 

[SeijiSetto]

Oh true, I apologize, I just woke up ;w;

S'all good.

 

[Spilxson2]

I wonder if Alien X can still can still win with telekinesis

 

[Lenyo456]

I wonder if Alien X can still can still win with telekinesis

I don't know, all he does with telekinesis is throw the enemy from side to side, I guess Luffy can counter that by turning where he's gonna fall into rubber

 

[Spectral69420]

This is an incon unless you equalize speed, which would turn it into a stomp

 

[Spilxson2]

This is an incon unless you equalize speed, which would turn it into a stomp

I don't think I'll equalize it. It's better if it's an incon

 

[Spilxson2]

I'm going to vote Inconclusive too

 

[SlendVeny]

Alien X does have existence erasure, and he also has no time limit, Luffy has to actively restart his heart every ten minutes or so.

 

[Spilxson2]

Alien X does have existence erasure, and he also has no time limit, Luffy has to actively restart his heart every ten minutes or so.

Pretty sure that after he felt worn out and turned back to normal during the fight with Kaido, he just activated Gear 5 again

 

[SlendVeny]

Pretty sure that after he felt worn out and turned back to normal during the fight with Kaido, he just activated Gear 5 again

He has to restart his heart with the Drums.

 

[Spilxson2]

Alright I can see Alien X lasting extremely long in this fight despite Luffy's durability negation. And since no one else is there to patch him up after the fight is over I can see him beating Alien X due to speed and durability negation, but instantly passing out afterwards. So I think I'm going to vote Inconclusive

 

[Spilxson2]

He has to restart his heart with the Drums.

Fair enough, but I still think he has win conditions here

 

[DemonicDude]

Alien X in Reboot leads with Teleportation spam and uses Deconstruction on civilians like Max.
Can Luffy overcome his Deconstruction?

 

[Spilxson2]

Alien X in Reboot leads with Teleportation spam and uses Deconstruction on civilians like Max.
Can Luffy overcome his Deconstruction?

He can move quickly enough to hit Alien X before he can even react with Teleportation so maybe

 

[SeijiSetto]

He can move quickly enough to hit Alien X before he can even react with Teleportation so maybe

Luffy cannot harm Alien X physically. There is a >>4400x difference between the AP of his strongest move and Alien X's dura, and 1.67 million x between his normal 6-B attacks and Alien X's Dura.