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the Logos literally made michael in every atom in creation, cough.
I also love how my comment went unrefuted, let's keep it that way
I also love how my comment went unrefuted, let's keep it that way
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So? TRS isn't made of atoms anyways.Hykuu said:the Logos literally made michael in every atom in creation, cough.
I also love how my comment went unrefuted, let's keep it that way
I also love how you didn't even refute anything about Lucifer being beyond destiny.Hykuu said:the Logos literally made michael in every atom in creation, cough.
I also love how my comment went unrefuted, let's keep it that way
If you spout some bulshit about how Lucifer is the reincarnation of what is basically God's dark side, even though in every comic before Lucifer was a direct creation by the Presence and not some reincarnation, yes, you owe it to post something that can be seen as proof.AndrewBennet said:Dude , Go read the comic . I owe you nothingDarkHunter89 said:Yeah no sorry, you gotta show use some scans for that.AndrewBennet said:Lucifer is actually the great evil beast reincarnation as explained in the current ru
It's good that at least you post scans, unlike the other guy who just spouts some bullshit without backing it up.Hykuu said:@Username12 he asked for a logos feat, and yeah, everything in the monitor sphere, including the montior sphere itself is bound by yahweh's name, which is shown by the fact its STILL inside destiny's book, and Michael was sustaining all of creation and rewriting Yahweh's name within the Logos.
@Dark my bad, I didn't see your comment
"Expect Lucifer isn't beyond death or destiny, this is just straight up bullshit. The reason Death didn't claim him was because he wasn't dead yet. Even when he "omg burned the pages" of Destinys book he still was bound by destiny. "
"Lucifer's Plague, for he is OLDER than the ANGEL OF DEATH, and GREATER"
Death of the Endless was intended to be the Angel of Death within vertigo, it's not like there are any other angels of death within the vertigo context to begin with.
Lucifer himself creates his Own Concept of Death and makes Adam and Eve beyond death's grasp.
Also the already mentioned Sealing he has, making characters beyond death's grasp aswell
And no, it was consistently shown Lucifer escaped his function and the Plan
"I'm Happy to see you here,outside of the PLAN"
"Was this my function, then?
You escaped your function,
that's why I wanted to know you better."
"His jurisdiction ends here, beyond the Gate is all mine
He has no authority to permit or prescribe MY universe"
[https://2.bp.blogspot.com/ZgdIUycvc...AEwzBhnYmasH19xRHueM168lv6vrStXpWUPRbuMKyw=s0 "Actually, Lilith, The Throne is Infinite, Like Lucifer's gate Only part of it extends into creation"]
"I don't have a crisis. I'm telling you, this is a simple courtesy. Yahweh's name is written in every atom of HIS creation. It's the glue which holds reality together" Incase you didn't get what this scan entails, Lucifer's creation itself operates beyond Yahweh's name and intention.
"Only Yahweh's creation, it depends on the Logos -- The Word of God, for it's Existencemy own Cosmos won't be AFFECTED"
I could go on, but I won't, but I could, hope this satisfies you.
Ah well, alright. I think it's great that you provided scans though.Hykuu said:no no, I mean the literal comic called sandman universe, not the vertigo universe
I get ya
Cosmis Armor Superman is way more than that, he's a really interesting concept, in my opinion he's way more interesting than the same old "the devil is a handsome antihero" concept.JackJoyce said:Handsome ruler of hell>>Boy scout in red underwear
Yeah, I don't either. It's always a big plot point that Lucifer is an archangel that was made by God and not some reincarnation. The fact the other guy doesn't want to show proof, shows me how what he said is bullshit.Hykuu said:Of course I would provide scans, anyone who actually reads the comics who post scans
"lucifer is a reincarnation of the great evil beast" lmaooo, no idea what that guy was on about
Still far less boring than the Superman always saves the day conceptDarkHunter89 said:Cosmis Armor Superman is way more than that, he's a really interesting concept, in my opinion he's way more interesting than the same old "the devil is a handsome antihero" concept.
I don't get it, what are you trying to say hereEmperorRorepme said:
EmperorRorepme said:...I'm joking
It's a hero saves the day concept, it could've been another hero as well, but because Superman is the one that portrays hope the best, they chose him. And again, nothing against you, but tell me why Lucifer is that more interesting, because to me he's just a one note devil archetype character.JackJoyce said:Still far less boring than the Superman always saves the day conceptDarkHunter89 said:Cosmis Armor Superman is way more than that, he's a really interesting concept, in my opinion he's way more interesting than the same old "the devil is a handsome antihero" concept.
PC Superman? Post-Crisis Superman? Pre-Crisis Superman? Which one. I'm not saying you have to like Superman, not at all, all I'm saying is that I can't see why people like Lucifer so much.EmperorRorepme said:I like more Lucifer than PC Supes anyway.
Well, my dad is cooler than yours.Jared1111 said:Yeah, looking at just the scaling alone, Lucifer still shitstomps. Thought Robot was still equal to Mandrakk, who still sits way below Destiny, and Lucifer at worst scales to him and Michael who are near the top tier of 1-A's. Not even going into the fact he has way more experience with 1-A level beings and has consistently shown to be one of the toughest SOB's in DC. Cosmic Armor only has one showing against another similar 1-A being to him and he almost got destroyed, "m-muh adaption" not even really helping all that much.
Also i like CAS, but Lucifer is one of my personal favorite characters in DC/Vertigo and even as a diehard Supes fan i'd say Lucifer is a far more compex and interesting character (Also this isn't a personality contest, it's a fight, so whose more likeable isn't up for debate. Cmon guys you sound like "My dad is cooler than your dad" and it's petty, even for this site.)
TRS isn't equal to Mandrakk though. Throughout their whole fight it was about TRS growing stronger opposed to Mandrakk and he did.Jared1111 said:Yeah, looking at just the scaling alone, Lucifer still shitstomps. Thought Robot was still equal to Mandrakk, who still sits way below Destiny, and Lucifer at worst scales to him and Michael who are near the top tier of 1-A's. Not even going into the fact he has way more experience with 1-A level beings and has consistently shown to be one of the toughest SOB's in DC. Cosmic Armor only has one showing against another similar 1-A being to him and he almost got destroyed, "m-muh adaption" not even really helping all that much.
Also i like CAS, but Lucifer is one of my personal favorite characters in DC/Vertigo and even as a diehard Supes fan i'd say Lucifer is a far more compex and interesting character (Also this isn't a personality contest, it's a fight, so whose more likeable isn't up for debate. Cmon guys you sound like "My dad is cooler than your dad" and it's petty, even for this site.)
Yeah Lucifer, so complex that he doesn't change at all throughout his entire series.Jared1111 said:Yeah, looking at just the scaling alone, Lucifer still shitstomps. Thought Robot was still equal to Mandrakk, who still sits way below Destiny, and Lucifer at worst scales to him and Michael who are near the top tier of 1-A's. Not even going into the fact he has way more experience with 1-A level beings and has consistently shown to be one of the toughest SOB's in DC. Cosmic Armor only has one showing against another similar 1-A being to him and he almost got destroyed, "m-muh adaption" not even really helping all that much.
Also i like CAS, but Lucifer is one of my personal favorite characters in DC/Vertigo and even as a diehard Supes fan i'd say Lucifer is a far more compex and interesting character (Also this isn't a personality contest, it's a fight, so whose more likeable isn't up for debate. Cmon guys you sound like "My dad is cooler than your dad" and it's petty, even for this site.)
I like you more and moreHykuu said:
I agree.Demiurgic Archangel said:Thought-Robot stomps, he is higher in 1-A tier.
Dude I know, I was just mimicking the way the other guy argues. Writing "x gets stomped lololol" is just stupid.Hykuu said:tmw all ur shit gets ignored
literally doesn't matter how high you scale CAS cus lucifer just scales higher within the in verse hierarchy
Exactly. Someone did that in this thread I believe, it's not only annoying but also a bit childish if you ask me.Hykuu said:Oh lmao, yeah I agree, usually it goes in dc threads that "lol X get stomped bcus he stomped this guy who infinitely transcends a infinite hierarchy of endless", it's dumb, the worst part is the lack of scans, and when you ask them for scans, "lol read the comic urself"