Lucifer Morningstar vs Randolph Carter

[ABoogieYesSir]

But Lucifer is more hax so he has the advantage here, AP advantage always doesn't help here.

 

[DMB_1]

But Lucifer is more hax so he has the advantage here, AP advantage always doesn't help here.

Actually, in 1-A battles, AP is basically everything, and hax are as occasional as ever.

The differences between 1-As can be countless levels of infinity, and in this battle, it seems that's the case.

 

[Jockey-1337]

Thanos with HOTU one-shots them all.

 

[TheSandman31]

No omnipotents allowed

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

@DMB

Really depends on the hax tho. Demonbane's sealing, Akuto Sai's Plot Manipulation or Tenma Yato's Law [Stopped an attack uncountably infinite levels of infinity more powerful than his own] definitely make a major difference in matches.

In this case, it seems Randolf may be a combo of superior both

 

[TheSandman31]

Lucifer can make the Void recede (not the entire Void, obviously), which was said to be a Void beyond voids, the empty slate that even outerversal realms are painted on.

It was even said that he was inscribing his will on it

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Sounds like maybe a few levels of infinity above baseline, but so is Carter as an Ultimate Archetype. A single gate can have infinite levels of infinity in them, and the ultimate archetypes are past them all in Azathoth's court.

 

[TheSandman31]

The Void isnt simply above a few levels of infinity, I dare say that the Void is above any levels of outerversal 1-A space (I mean its supposed to represent the paper/canvass the comics are drawn on), Lucifer himself doesnt transcend it (since the Void is High 1-A) but being able to manipulate and cause even an infinitesimal portion of it to recede, also maybe even being able to inscribe his will into it, I think is an impressive feat

Edit: I'm not arguing for Lucifer winning, I dont know much about Cthulhu mythos aside from the fact that it's God is a sleeping spagghetti thing, so I dont know whether Lucifer can beat him or not. I'm just disagreeing with Lucifer being a baseline 1-A, in my opinion, Lucifer is a fairly strong 1-A (though, that might just be me being bias towards DC/Vertigo, but whatever)

 

[DMB_1]

@DMB
Really depends on the hax tho. Demonbane's sealing, Akuto Sai's Plot Manipulation or Tenma Yato's Law [Stopped an attack uncountably infinite levels of infinity more powerful than his own] definitely make a major difference in matches.

In this case, it seems Randolf may be a combo of superior both

Hax that have no proof of working on people who are levels of infinity above you.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Is the Void Overmind or is it not ? Because if the Void in those scans was Overmind... That's a nigh High 1-A feat, even if it was just a portion.

Lucifer via experience and intelligence in comparison to Randolph.

 

[TheSandman31]

On the gallery of the Monitor-Mind, there's a picture of the Void and how it is infinite even to Lucifer, so I guess we treat it as the same thing

 

[Jman8009]

You know, to be completely honest, I'm surprised this thread has gone on for so long. XD

 

[Jman8009]

I won't close this thread unless something happens though.