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Low quality pages
- Thread starter NuclearPixelemental
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I think Mega seems to make sense. Although should we still go through with the guidelines?
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What about the "Durrgun Bill 2" Characters? are they considered Low-Quality despite their whole existence is taking a crap at low-quality animation?
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I just read through this, and I want to state my opinion, and then an idea.
First of all, I'm not very active in this wiki, and any edits that I make tend to be technical, so I don't know first-hand how problematic these pages are. But, that doesn't mean that I haven't found these types of pages while roaming around the wiki; I just deem any absurdly long and/or spammy pages an annoyance, and I ignore them (Unless they have those autoplaying recordings. I really hate those profiles).
Second, I have to agree with Ryukama: I might hate those pages, but I don't want to take them down just because I dislike them. We've been very lenient on what is allowed in this wiki, and I don't want to suddenly take that away from the people.
Lastly, an idea; other wikis (such as Wikipedia) have a "Good Article" or "Featured Article" system that promotes articles identified by the community to be articles of high quality, informative, et cetera. I think we should implement that system to identify good and/or entertaining articles, possibly following some guideline, and separate them from the more spammy and/or lower quality profiles, so people don't have to go through a horde of mediocre profiles to find a good profile or a profile that they'll like.
Tell me what you guys think.
First of all, I'm not very active in this wiki, and any edits that I make tend to be technical, so I don't know first-hand how problematic these pages are. But, that doesn't mean that I haven't found these types of pages while roaming around the wiki; I just deem any absurdly long and/or spammy pages an annoyance, and I ignore them (Unless they have those autoplaying recordings. I really hate those profiles).
Second, I have to agree with Ryukama: I might hate those pages, but I don't want to take them down just because I dislike them. We've been very lenient on what is allowed in this wiki, and I don't want to suddenly take that away from the people.
Lastly, an idea; other wikis (such as Wikipedia) have a "Good Article" or "Featured Article" system that promotes articles identified by the community to be articles of high quality, informative, et cetera. I think we should implement that system to identify good and/or entertaining articles, possibly following some guideline, and separate them from the more spammy and/or lower quality profiles, so people don't have to go through a horde of mediocre profiles to find a good profile or a profile that they'll like.
Tell me what you guys think.
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Thank you very much for the great input, Copetan.
I suppose we can combine Mega's idea of heavily discouraging bad pages and your idea of heavily encouraging good pages in order to help promote a higher overall quality.
Do you think excessive spam or practically empty pages should be removed though? I don't mean just "bad pages". But pages that are ridiculously too long or short.
I suppose we can combine Mega's idea of heavily discouraging bad pages and your idea of heavily encouraging good pages in order to help promote a higher overall quality.
Do you think excessive spam or practically empty pages should be removed though? I don't mean just "bad pages". But pages that are ridiculously too long or short.
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I agree with Copetan. We should probably only remove pages that are too short or long, and discourage bad pages and encourage good pages, instead of outright banning them.
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Also, before removing any page, give that respective creator a chance to speak first.
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The Logan Paul page was supposedly of decent quality before people filled it with spam, so I think we could revert it to the least spammy version.
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Don't worry @Soel404. I can easily revert all that spam with a snap of my fingers.
I'll simply post the version I'm going to revert it to, so you guys can see if you like it.
I'll simply post the version I'm going to revert it to, so you guys can see if you like it.
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Eh, I've kinda given up on that page, I make actual pages now, not just who's got the bigger dick contests
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HOSTLESS is a pretty good example of a low quality page. It's almost entirely spam!
And it does notable victory links without the threads to support them. Yeah, this should have been reported to the notable victories/losses links report thread
And it does notable victory links without the threads to support them. Yeah, this should have been reported to the notable victories/losses links report thread
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I've removed the links.
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I'll take care of the Logan Paul profile later today. I've been busy.
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I'm sorry but are those pages really that out of place? I thought shitposting (even completely mindless shitposting) was kind of the point of the wiki
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Well kind of. It's just that the page was filled with absolute, almost unreadable spam that takes away the joke about the page.
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WTF there are no rules in this jokes battle wiki its filled with all the comment sections mentioned Don't you know the meaning of the word "j o k e s b a t t l e w i k i"
my fat mom page is stupid
Just another useless garbage trash can page
my fat mom page is stupid
Just another useless garbage trash can page
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Dude... just stopUselessnoob245 said:
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Uselessnoob245 = Salty
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kUselessnoob245 said:
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I thought of this place as a fun place to joke around with my friends but when all the attention gets sucked up by these kinds of profiles it kind of drives the fun away. It's getting frustrating just going through all of these pages; why even bother trying to check things out if it's just going to be another NDSUGANSPGNAPIOGASGSAPGNSGNDNKDFKAFFJI kind of page?
I don't have a problem with them existing, but I do have a problem with the fact that they suck up most of the attention here. We should definitely retain some leniency here but I think we're being a bit too lenient in this case. There needs to be a line drawn somewhere as to what kinds of profiles are acceptable or not, even if it is arbitrarily drawn. It's one thing to only loosely follow the profile format, but it's another thing to completely ignore it and fill it with repetition and spam.
With the over-abundance of these profiles it ruins the fun of seeing the things other people make. I really would appreciate seeing some more of my fellow VSB staff on this site, but most of them aren't even curious about what's going on here anymore. It feels barren and dead.
I don't have a problem with them existing, but I do have a problem with the fact that they suck up most of the attention here. We should definitely retain some leniency here but I think we're being a bit too lenient in this case. There needs to be a line drawn somewhere as to what kinds of profiles are acceptable or not, even if it is arbitrarily drawn. It's one thing to only loosely follow the profile format, but it's another thing to completely ignore it and fill it with repetition and spam.
With the over-abundance of these profiles it ruins the fun of seeing the things other people make. I really would appreciate seeing some more of my fellow VSB staff on this site, but most of them aren't even curious about what's going on here anymore. It feels barren and dead.
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I honestly wish I got on this site a few years ago when this site was in it's prime
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i get no action on my non op characters and those are the ones that i actually like making and the ones i'm proud of
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I'm very sorry to hear about your disappointment you guys. Mega, Julian and I will try to figure out new guidelines that will help things out as best as we can.
We have no control over which pages people read and click on though, outside of maybe featuring some on the frontpage.
We have no control over which pages people read and click on though, outside of maybe featuring some on the frontpage.
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I can understand that there's not much to do about it.
Again, I don't have a problem with these profiles existing. I only have an issue with the over-abundance of them. If it were only one or two of them here and there then I'd say I might even be able to appreciate them in an ironic way, but there's just way too many.
Again, I don't have a problem with these profiles existing. I only have an issue with the over-abundance of them. If it were only one or two of them here and there then I'd say I might even be able to appreciate them in an ironic way, but there's just way too many.
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i think you shouldn't delete any and let people edit and wank any that currently exist but don't let any more be uploaded
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I'm not sure. We should still try to take out the massive amount of spam on some pages, instead of outright deleting them. Although they should definitely be stopped.
Maybe I could post the guidelines I suggested as recommendations which should be encouraged?
Maybe I could post the guidelines I suggested as recommendations which should be encouraged?
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I agree with numbers on this case in that there should not be an abunduncy of these profiles, as well as the fact that they should not be recieving the most attention.. I also agree with Julian in that we should focus more on deleting spam instead of the outright profile.
Despite this being a joke battles wiki, it kinda evolved into being a junk battles wiki. These profiles still have the rights to be made.
We do need rules for how such profiles interact due to the massive drama this silly issue creates. My first suggestion is ban all VS threads for characters that only have one purpose and that is to be the strongest except for actual memes.
But really, it comes down to us, we are the ones who choose to give the most attention to these profiles wether or not it be for good or for bad. If we want to stop it, first we need to stop caring about the types of profiles and we need to start making profiles that have actual value in it ourselves. The only exception is when one of these profiles are actually breaking rules, in which case notify one of us admins, we delete it, warn the user, and then move on.
I will try my best to innovate and ahow other examples and directions of how people could go about making their profiles. Of course they are just suggestions, all users have the right to create what ever they want as long as they can follow the most basic of rules. Julian and Ryu could focus on monitering pages that have the absolute worst quality.
Despite this being a joke battles wiki, it kinda evolved into being a junk battles wiki. These profiles still have the rights to be made.
We do need rules for how such profiles interact due to the massive drama this silly issue creates. My first suggestion is ban all VS threads for characters that only have one purpose and that is to be the strongest except for actual memes.
But really, it comes down to us, we are the ones who choose to give the most attention to these profiles wether or not it be for good or for bad. If we want to stop it, first we need to stop caring about the types of profiles and we need to start making profiles that have actual value in it ourselves. The only exception is when one of these profiles are actually breaking rules, in which case notify one of us admins, we delete it, warn the user, and then move on.
I will try my best to innovate and ahow other examples and directions of how people could go about making their profiles. Of course they are just suggestions, all users have the right to create what ever they want as long as they can follow the most basic of rules. Julian and Ryu could focus on monitering pages that have the absolute worst quality.
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Ok so this reply is like a month late since I had zero idea this thread existed till it was highlighted (though my favorite fighting games have distracted the hell outta me too).
My take on the whole situation....
As one of the editors responsible for one of the OG godmods (Skodwarde and his crew), I worry that I may have some blame for what has happened here (though I have nerfed the **** out of him, and will likely either do so to Morbid Patrick, Spengbab, and Moar Krabs, or delete them outright and maybe reboot them).
But we're in the now so here's my take on it.
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't slightly exhausted with all the godmode profiles, (though not outright against them overall) and even made a profile (Cereal Escalation) highlighting the chronic looping of it all. Also that blog post expressing worry about people taking all these godmods a bit too seriously I made.
That being said, I am also against the full scale deletion of these godmode profiles (unless they are clear spam/rule violations), since this wiki is very much er....libertarian, conceptually, in design so to speak, and if profiles start getting deleted solely cuz people don't like em, it could wind up having an ugly domino effect....
So here are some alternate solutions I've come up with....
1: Discourage further creation of extreme spam profiles, since it's been done before, and it's certainly not gonna win you any originality points....
2: Encourage more thoughtful, creative efforts to improve the QOL of the wiki as a whole....
3: Sit every member of this wiki in a chair, put headphones in their ears, and play nothing but Type O Negative at a moderate volume, turning everyone into vampires, and suddenly all the profiles become overly gothic.
My take on the whole situation....
As one of the editors responsible for one of the OG godmods (Skodwarde and his crew), I worry that I may have some blame for what has happened here (though I have nerfed the **** out of him, and will likely either do so to Morbid Patrick, Spengbab, and Moar Krabs, or delete them outright and maybe reboot them).
But we're in the now so here's my take on it.
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't slightly exhausted with all the godmode profiles, (though not outright against them overall) and even made a profile (Cereal Escalation) highlighting the chronic looping of it all. Also that blog post expressing worry about people taking all these godmods a bit too seriously I made.
That being said, I am also against the full scale deletion of these godmode profiles (unless they are clear spam/rule violations), since this wiki is very much er....libertarian, conceptually, in design so to speak, and if profiles start getting deleted solely cuz people don't like em, it could wind up having an ugly domino effect....
So here are some alternate solutions I've come up with....
1: Discourage further creation of extreme spam profiles, since it's been done before, and it's certainly not gonna win you any originality points....
2: Encourage more thoughtful, creative efforts to improve the QOL of the wiki as a whole....
3: Sit every member of this wiki in a chair, put headphones in their ears, and play nothing but Type O Negative at a moderate volume, turning everyone into vampires, and suddenly all the profiles become overly gothic.
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what's up with #3?
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Evil-ish planning/joke suggestion. :3Megamangohan said:
(Similar to that "third option" line in The Cat In The Hat movie)
