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Low 1-C neutral space dbs

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World of Void =/= Neutral Space. We have Neutral Space, World of Void and Zeno Realm aside from 12 to 18 bubble universes/macrocosms, all inside a bigger timeline
 
Vietthai96 said:
World of Void =/= Neutral Space. We have Neutral Space, World of Void and Zeno Realm aside from 12 to 18 bubble universes/macrocosms, all inside a bigger timeline
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If so, then I’d could agree
 
Bobsican said:
Yeah, while on one hand we default the space between universes as 5-D out of how that'd be required so they can be parallel position-wise to each other, on the other, for Low 1-C we'd require that space to specifically be infinite, and to be stated as bigger compared to the universes.
I'd also not rather use KH's case here as it has way more to back it up than the above.
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We simply don't rate characters 5D for effecting an irrelevant 5D space.
 
Quantu said:
Could the overarching Timeline which contains all of this + more not qualify as an uncountably larger structure and be Low 1-C, even if this itself is not enough?
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It can't.
As said before, if there is evidence that the 4D structures stand side by side, the neutral space between it must be 5D
 
DaReaperMan said:
Your right, I should!

For the most part I feel like this is the highest possible interpretation, like, there's other interpretations you can go for varying from nothing statements to this, I just feel like I can't in good faith agree currently
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No no I accept that. Even though I would like tier 0 DB I feel it should earn it better. I just thought a response should at least state fra either for agreement or disagreement. Though your newer response more than covers it up.
 
DaReaperMan said:
Your right, I should!

For the most part I feel like this is the highest possible interpretation, like, there's other interpretations you can go for varying from nothing statements to this, I just feel like I can't in good faith agree currently
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The fact 4D structures can't stand side by side unless embeded in a 5D space is not the highest interpretation, it's the only interpretation given what's accepted.

The other interpretation, however, is that all the bubbles are just 3D strucutres and time is shared amongst all mortal universes. That requires changing how we consider the unvierse bubbles.

But it can't be left the way it is.
 
The_Yellow_Topaz said:
The fact 4D structures can't stand side by side unless embeded in a 5D space is not the highest interpretation, it's the only interpretation given what's accepted.

The other interpretation, however, is that all the bubbles are just 3D strucutres and time is shared amongst all mortal universes. That requires changing how we consider the unvierse bubbles.

But it can't be left the way it is.
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Are universes considered 4d currently?
 
12 宇宙とは異なる空間に浮かぶ惑星
Planets floating in different spaces from that of the 12 universes

As I said before, calling "different space" (異なる空間), does sound more how they call what is generically here a different dimension, especially considering that they put stuff like the World of Void.

Also, looking into the complete scan



They put the nameless planet in the "neutral space between universes" in the same "space different from that of the 12 universes" as the World of Void and Zen'O palace. So yes, here it's completely in the meaning of a different dimensional space and can be used as proof that the neutral space between universes is like a "neutral dimension between universes", unless the World of Void is now seen just as another part of the same universal space that all 12 universes share and you can get there with a spaceship.

Translation by @Executor_N0 about the neutral space between the Universes
 
Where is proof that those 12 universes are inside the neutral space?
 
Yes, I agree that this space should be 5-D. Because the continuities of spacetime in this space are perfectly parallel to each other, they are exist in the same physical space and do not intersect each other on any angular axis.

For this to happen, space must be at least 5-dimensional. Low1c is discussed but it is also acceptable

Other than that, I disagree with 5-D timeline bullshits
 
DaReaperMan said:
Uh, lady? You can have two sets of infinite 4-D timelines and there won't be any 5-D fuckery, you know. Just as how fiction can have two Infite universes with a void and there won't be 4-D fuckery happening.
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Can you quote me when replying to what I said?
Thank you

Now no, you can have two timelines, or 4D structures in a story without any 5-D fuckery, but if they are portrayed as being strucutres that are parallel to each other in a void or space, that said void or space MUST be 5D. There is no other explanation, you can't have two dimensions parallel to each other without overlapping if it's not embedded by a higher dimensional tier.

This isn't just "we have two timelines, they co-exist, so 5D", this is referring to this quote from Ultima:
"For two line segments to be parallel, you'd have to set it so they wouldn't touch regardless of how far they are extended, which wouldn't be possible if they stood side-by-side in 1-D space as in here, meaning you would need them to be displaced over a plane. Same thing happens with planes: For them to be parallel, they shouldn't ever be able to meet, so you'd need them to be displaced over 3-D space. Generalizing that to the 4-D case, spacetimes would obviously have to be displaced over a 5-D region (This works by definition, too: If they're different spacetime continuums then obviously they can't share the same space, in the way 3-D objects exist around us for instance)".
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If you want to debate them, I invite you to
 
The_Yellow_Topaz said:
Can you quote me when replying to what I said?
Thank you

Now no, you can have two timelines, or 4D structures in a story without any 5-D fuckery, but if they are portrayed as being strucutres that are parallel to each other in a void or space, that said void or space MUST be 5D. There is no other explanation, you can't have two dimensions parallel to each other without overlapping if it's not embedded by a higher dimensional tier.

This isn't just "we have two timelines, they co-exist, so 5D", this is referring to this quote from Ultima
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Not necessarily. What is happening here is that they are parallel to each other, are exist on the same physical plane, "and do not intersect each other on any angular axis."

If there's no evidence that they don't intersect, it's not 5-D
 
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