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If so, then I’d could agreeWorld of Void =/= Neutral Space. We have Neutral Space, World of Void and Zeno Realm aside from 12 to 18 bubble universes/macrocosms, all inside a bigger timeline
We simply don't rate characters 5D for effecting an irrelevant 5D space.Yeah, while on one hand we default the space between universes as 5-D out of how that'd be required so they can be parallel position-wise to each other, on the other, for Low 1-C we'd require that space to specifically be infinite, and to be stated as bigger compared to the universes.
I'd also not rather use KH's case here as it has way more to back it up than the above.
It can't.Could the overarching Timeline which contains all of this + more not qualify as an uncountably larger structure and be Low 1-C, even if this itself is not enough?
By definition is it a higher axis, so yesIs it qualitatively superior though?
No it is not. Not each "higher dimension" is by default QS.Is it qualitatively superior though?
Streets are saying being 5D isn’t enough to qualify for 5DBy definition is it a higher axis, so yes
Neither Zeno or IZ have destroyed the timeline, only the universes within it.zeno and likely IZ and anyone above
In the manga (and debatably the anime as well), Zeno destroyed the timeline as evident with the Time Ring of Trunks' timeline completely being destroyed.Neither Zeno or IZ have destroyed the timeline, only the universes within it.
Shouldn't you state why?I disagree with this thread!
Your right, I should!Shouldn't you state why?
No no I accept that. Even though I would like tier 0 DB I feel it should earn it better. I just thought a response should at least state fra either for agreement or disagreement. Though your newer response more than covers it up.Your right, I should!
For the most part I feel like this is the highest possible interpretation, like, there's other interpretations you can go for varying from nothing statements to this, I just feel like I can't in good faith agree currently
The fact 4D structures can't stand side by side unless embeded in a 5D space is not the highest interpretation, it's the only interpretation given what's accepted.Your right, I should!
For the most part I feel like this is the highest possible interpretation, like, there's other interpretations you can go for varying from nothing statements to this, I just feel like I can't in good faith agree currently
Are universes considered 4d currently?The fact 4D structures can't stand side by side unless embeded in a 5D space is not the highest interpretation, it's the only interpretation given what's accepted.
The other interpretation, however, is that all the bubbles are just 3D strucutres and time is shared amongst all mortal universes. That requires changing how we consider the unvierse bubbles.
But it can't be left the way it is.
Yes, that's right.To clarify, we have the following:
Is this correct?
- The 12 Universes are inside the Neutral Space.
- The World of Void is a separate space from the Neutral Space
- Zeno's realm is another separate space from the former 2.
In the anime, manga, and databook it shows.Where is proof that those 12 universes are inside the neutral space?
Can you quote me when replying to what I said?Uh, lady? You can have two sets of infinite 4-D timelines and there won't be any 5-D fuckery, you know. Just as how fiction can have two Infite universes with a void and there won't be 4-D fuckery happening.
"For two line segments to be parallel, you'd have to set it so they wouldn't touch regardless of how far they are extended, which wouldn't be possible if they stood side-by-side in 1-D space as in here, meaning you would need them to be displaced over a plane. Same thing happens with planes: For them to be parallel, they shouldn't ever be able to meet, so you'd need them to be displaced over 3-D space. Generalizing that to the 4-D case, spacetimes would obviously have to be displaced over a 5-D region (This works by definition, too: If they're different spacetime continuums then obviously they can't share the same space, in the way 3-D objects exist around us for instance)".
I have to agree lolI don't support such upgrades because I don't think that in fictional universes the authors designed these structures for this purpose, but I don't see any obstacle for dragon ball to be low1c because this logic is used on the site
Not necessarily. What is happening here is that they are parallel to each other, are exist on the same physical plane, "and do not intersect each other on any angular axis."Can you quote me when replying to what I said?
Thank you
Now no, you can have two timelines, or 4D structures in a story without any 5-D fuckery, but if they are portrayed as being strucutres that are parallel to each other in a void or space, that said void or space MUST be 5D. There is no other explanation, you can't have two dimensions parallel to each other without overlapping if it's not embedded by a higher dimensional tier.
This isn't just "we have two timelines, they co-exist, so 5D", this is referring to this quote from Ultima
Same.Put me in disagree, please and thank you