En realidad, aborde mis argumentos en lugar de esconderse detrás: "ya ha sido aceptado".
El espectáculo en sí solo ha representado una línea de tiempo singular que contiene todos los espacios.
No hay razón para suponer que la línea de tiempo es una línea de tiempo que contiene varias líneas de tiempo. Es posible que todos los universos sean subespacios de una línea de tiempo singular. Todavía puede obtener Low-2C para destruir subespacios del espacio-tiempo si son lo suficientemente grandes o contienen suficiente contenido.
No es necesario que la línea de tiempo general sea Baja 1-C.
Regarding the Separation of Universes
It should be recognized that travel between universes is not feasible unless through the use of a portal or similar unusual mechanisms. This is because it should be impossible for two distinct universes to be connected by a path that only goes through regular 3 dimensional space. Universes must be separated by something other than 3 dimensional distance or physical barriers, otherwise they would be considered to both be part of one large universe for our tiering purposes
The most typical example is the presence of a higher dimensional space serving as a separator. In other words, two separate universes coexist in a four dimensional or even higher dimensional space, occupying different position along some additional dimensional axis. Therefore, in order to travel between such universes, the movement must be through the higher dimensional space between them. To summarize, two realms are separated through a higher dimension space if
• A larger space encompasses all the universes or space-times
• This space is of a higher dimensional nature.
While a common higher dimensional space is the most frequent way of separation, many other ways exist and are also valid.
In fiction there are cases where a wall or some non-physical analog separates two realms. However, while such a barrier might serve to separate the realms within the cosmology of said fiction, note that the spaces are not necessarily separate universes by our standards. That is because, while the wall may make it difficult in practice, one could in theory still move from one realm to the other with just regular three dimensional movement. That means that the realms are still part of one common three dimensional space, which by our standards constitutes only one universe.
Note that this criteria of separation is only an argument against two realms being separate universes, if a feat of travel between the realms by regular 3D means occurs or it is otherwise known for certain that they are not separated in the above sense. If the realms fulfill the requirements laid out in the prior section and no such travel occurs, then the realms can be considered proper separate universes even if the means by which they are separated is not explored.
— Firstly, it is significant to understand that a universe, including space-time continuums and timelines, encompasses all three-dimensional space that can be accessed through regular movement within the universe. This means that any location that can be theoretically reached through conventional means of travel, such as spaceflight, would be considered part of the same universe and timeline, regardless of how the fiction portrays it. Movement between universes should only be feasible through extraordinary modes of transportation, such as portals, higher-dimensional movement, or teleportation. By default, it is assumed that universes have separate three-dimensional spaces, but if a piece of fiction demonstrates otherwise, destruction of several connected timelines would be rated as Low 2-C (Universe level+).
Dragon Ball Cosmology
The world where the Kaioushin live, the highest beings among the Kaiou. Its reach is about one tenth of the combined space of the World Beyond and the Living World. Endlessly revolving around the circumference of the World Beyond and the Living World, they watch over the entire world and balance each other. The planet Kaioushin forms the center of the Kaloushin Kingdom. The planet Kaioushin is a lonely planet in the Kaiou Kingdom, and around it are several small suns. The only people in the Kaioushin Kingdom are the Kaioushin and Kibito, who acts as support. All life forms except Kaioushin, and all souls, cannot enter the Kaioushin Realm. The only ways to visit the Kaloushin Kingdom are by borrowing Kibito's power or by going through ShunkanIdou. (Daizenshuu 4, page 73)
The Makai is a unique place within the Living World. It is a place that the eyes of the Kami in the World Beyond cannot see; little is known other than the fact that evil life forms live there. There are records of these life forms threatening peace on the planets of the universe. Ordinary life forms cannot travel freely from the Living World to the World Beyond. The only way to go is to become souls upon death. However, there are some who are given permission to travel by the Kami of the World Beyond, though they are few in number. The Kaioushin Realm, where the Kaioushin, the gods of the [other] gods, reside. To observe both the World Beyond and the Living World, it rotates around the circumference of the entire body of the world in a fixed cycle, like a satellite. Of course, in important circumstances where the fate of the universe is at stake, they sometimes interfere with both the World Beyond and the Living World. Beings from the World Beyond or the World of the Living cannot enter here. Without Shunkanidou's highest level of skill, movement [to and from] is impossible.
Interview with Akira Toriyama in the Full Color edition of the DB manga
What kind of place is the afterlife?
It is the world where the gods live, and it is also called the "Heavenly Realm"! It is a world inhabited by gods like Kaiō and Kaiōshin, as well as the spirits of the dead. Normally, living people cannot enter.
Fusion: Inside Scoop
The secret behind the spherical world Toriyama:
I thought of the world of ball so that it would be easy for both me and the readers to understand. The big central ball has the worlds called the world of the living and the afterlife, and the Kaiōshin oversees all of that from the outside. Like its antithesis, at the bottom of the great ball are the Makaiōshin, who rule over evil. Currently, it seems that the power of the Kaiōshins is superior.
Chapter 493, Dragon Ball manga
Piccolo mentions that Super Buu blasted a hole through the dimensional barrier with his Ki.
Daizenshuu Infinite and expansive space envelops every celestial body that exists in the living world. Together with the "Demon Realm", it is a unique and large world in the living world. In the world of Dragon Ball, the universe lies below the World Beyond and is hermetically sealed by a barrier that is etched with a strange design. Within the universe, there are "nebulae" made up of innumerable stars, and there are "galaxies" made up of innumerable nebulae. There is a ruling Kami for each galaxy. Earth resides in the Solar System, a galactic nebula on the outskirts of the Northern Galaxy.[Par.] A "Cosmic Police Organization" exists in the universe. However, they lack the fighting ability to oppose Frieza and the Saiyans.
Chapter 205, Manga Dragon ball Emma Daioh's guide explains to Goku that if he falls to hell he will never be able to return, he also describes the mortal world as a "universe"
dragon book page 2 Through rigorous training in the Heavenly Realm, Goku has transformed into a Super Saiyan 3. His awesome power, which shook the entire earth, even reached the Kaioshin Realm in another dimension, astonishing his friends! Although it took him a while to transform because he was still getting used to it, he showed enough power to fight Boo on equal terms!
Not to mention, they've also provided you with the threads and other justifications for why each of the 6 kingdoms that make up U7 are Low 2-c.
If you do not agree with how the universal structures in DB are formed, I invite you to make a CRT addressing these issues instead of derailing this thread, thank you very much and I hope your understanding.
lets stop the side discussions, just keep waiting for staff to address the actual arguments of the crt, I will post the arguments again.
