good job
I'd like to have a say in my own thread thank you. I put months into the idea so believe that I've earned my say in the discussion.
So you agree they shouldn't have been made? Because you knew that revisions were coming, you stressed it yourself
because I've been away, for the like 5th time.
One will be given in the thread. Don't worry.
No you haven't. Wiki doesn't do favouritism, you don't have some patent for the idea.
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And if you haven't picked up already, I don't care about that, any wiki member you claim to be so massively in support of your proposals, can debate on your behalf.
It was discussed, and then accepted. This is just... wrong claims.
Ok, I know I'm not staff, but please listen for like 5 picoseconds. No matter how important, nobody is obligated to make any threads if they don't want to or don't have the time. That isn't your decision to make. Shit happens, my friend, and sometimes stuff is delayed.
So don't delete a previously, rigidly accepted format, off of a single user's demands.
it seems like you've only ever had a tone with me. so that statement is very hypocritical.
Both as a staff member and the one who did propose the idea, and likely put a lot more thought into the idea than others. I have a right to a say in my own thread. What gives you more say than anyone else?
How can they debate the ideas of somebody else without the input of said person?
it was not. you made a template and applied it like 2 days later, in a thread that had been active for over a month and still hadn't concluded.
I have already said why.
If you believe that I'm able to make and moderate an entire new thread while miles away from my computer then I believe you can go back through the thread and figure it out yourself.
Why not if it's wrong and spreading false information?
Actually this isn't the problem, the problem is
So you're saying things should be discussed before they're applied? Where have I heard that before?
First off, you have absolutely no idea what's happening in my life. or how I wish to spend my time, I am not obligated to sell my soul to this wiki. if you chose to spend your time like that then fine. But I'm not the "create a discord purely to conspire against the masses" type, and I'm certainly not using weeks of what is supposed to be enjoyment and family time to dreadfully argue about a format for a profile on a wiki, when I can do that afterwards. I'm not ruining my vacation for your satisfaction.
Yes, that is why I worked on making an entire detailed well structured thread over the course of multiple weeks and then proceeded to allow suggestions and criticism whilst moderating said thread for over a month.
I'm claiming I would like to have an input in the threads I create yes. If you're saying I am not entitled to a say in threads then you are just wrong for starters. This is not the attitude a thread moderator should have, they should respect that threads need to go on for some time and must be concluded before huge revisions like this are applied.
Do we want to take that chance? If we do who's going to edit the huge influx of profiles that may appear? Because I doubt users will want to, our staff is busy enough in most cases. I'm just thinking about them.
It isn't making the revision that's the problem though, it's that the revisions will almost certainly take at least around a month to apply, because the old thread wasnt even close to complete, and now we have new stuff that needs fixing too. Locations have already began to catch on for users, and will only start coming quicker.
Yes, and if you note, I improved my tone upon seeing it was getting worse.
No. You don't.
I never claimed I had the right to say more.
Then it's not as universal an idea.
No, I asked people explicitly, offsite, to input on my suggestion.
Because you're doing a poor job as the OP, the thread was laughably derailed when I joined in.
Nitpicking
Answer the question.
@AKM sama @Antvasima Confirm I asked clearly on the thread whether I could post the draft, and you replied with yes.
Because it's not false information, it is information you disagree with.
Nitpicking
After having asked to input on the thread for two whole days, whose fault is that? Yours.
It wasn't rushed since I didn't post the file without anyone's consent.
They weren't, you just never made your complaints clear until AFTER the file was made, again, you doing poor verification when I clearly asked you to.
As said I didn't know, I deadass thought given weeks of gap, you would've put forward the revision. You didn't. Your fault.
You didn't understand what I said. I said you should've asked another staff member to make a thread on your behalf. I never said anything about discussion.
You're not obligated to ask for random file deletions either based on your personal issues, again I recognize my limits and don't penalize others for my personal errors.
"Conspire against the masses" have you BEEN to a wiki Discord server?
Do it afterwards, or ask someone else to do it for you.
Which was laughably derailed, yes.
And? It's my fault in that? I was asking nearly every staff member I could offsite, to give a semblance of input, and they refused because they
Then work on your own to have an input on it.
This is a laughably poor understanding of how threads work.
Again, your thread wasn't being discussed, it was derailed.
Christ are you seriously pinning your own failure for multiple days and now weeks, to bring up your issues with the accepted format, on me?
You certainly did not.
I don't have the right to speak in a thread? Ok? I guess I can't comment on any other thread for the rest of my life because Imp said so and shes a thread mod who knows the rules.
you are very clearly implying that you have more of a say in threads than I do for starters.
Shame that there's no evidence of this tho isn't it? You got the support of a few people on the thread at least, you can't just apply stuff because you asked people to comment on discord...
Once again if you actually read the thread then you would realize that I continually stopped derailment. The subject at the time related to the OP enough that it was discussed there, even then, before Beauracrats decided such I tried to stop that subject as I also though of it as derailment.
You answer the same question. If your only input was the couple of people you tagged then that is laughably bad in your favor. Look at the OP in the thread and there's your answer, those who agreed liked the OP, plus more.
Ok. Two people? One of which certainly later proved themselves unaware of most of the changes you'd made.
It is wrong information that barely anybody agreed on. It should not be there.
I apologise for having a life then. And apologise for enjoying myself.
Aight I'll go and post my draft too and apply 12 CRTs I'm planning because my friend on discord said it works...
I made it abundantly clear that I would be unable to comment reliably. It isn't my fault that you didn't bother to read or take that into account.
Once again, you not reading my messages, or posts on my wall that you have visited since then, is not my fault. It's yours.
No I'm not obligated to do such, you're right. I think I made it very clear why I did it though.
Yes I have. Generally we talk about the wiki and verses we like as friends. It's fun. You should try it.
I was going to do it afterwards, and still am. But "afterwards" hasn't come yet. Are you actually reading my posts or just making random points that fit with what you want to say?
I've already said that I was trying to stop that discussion. But Ant and others insisted it was necessary. If you had cared to actually read where we were up to, you'd know that.
Yes. It is your fault that you were impatient and did not wait for more opinions on the matter. Who else's would it be?
I am. But you've already stated I shouldn't have a say in it anyways so...
No. Everybody gets a say in a thread. If you refuse to acknowledge a user in a thread then you are either blatantly ignorant, or have some power ego that makes you more important than anyone else.
Again. That ain't my fault. And it was relevant to the thread.
No. I'm pinning the actions that made those issues on you.
It would have come sooner, but I'm away for the 7th time.
Which was agreed relevant enough to be discussed after continually being brought up by staff.
I wrote the original standards. They were actually discussed and agreed fine (unlike yours). I wasn't wasting time at all, it's called having structure to a thread rather than randomly throwing subjects all over the place, something I thought you'd be aware of, but apparently not.
You showed up on like the last page of the thread and have already made it abundantly clear that you didn't read a single bit of it multiple times. The entire start of the thread was regarding important subjects, which were discussed in time and concluded. Unlike literally anything you did. So don't lecture me on how to structure stuff and act like I'm less intelligent than you.
Lmao just read the thread and disprove yourself, I don't have time for this kinda stuff.
I'm on the wiki everyday thanks. and I was on that thread, multiple times, everyday, for over a month. Thanks.
Don't respond then. I have no problems with that.
I hope you get a good night sleep and enjoy your flight.
Agreed.
