Yes, and if you note, I improved my tone upon seeing it was getting worse.
You certainly did not.
I don't have the right to speak in a thread? Ok? I guess I can't comment on any other thread for the rest of my life because Imp said so and shes a thread mod who knows the rules.
I never claimed I had the right to say more.
you are very clearly implying that you have more of a say in threads than I do for starters.
You also allowed your own revisions to pass for some unknown reason.
No, I asked people explicitly, offsite, to input on my suggestion.
Shame that there's no evidence of this tho isn't it? You got the support of a few people on the thread at least, you can't just apply stuff because you asked people to comment on discord...
Because you're doing a poor job as the OP, the thread was laughably derailed when I joined in.
Once again if you actually read the thread then you would realize that I continually stopped derailment. The subject at the time related to the OP enough that it was discussed there, even then, before Beauracrats decided such I tried to stop that subject as I also though of it as derailment.
You answer the same question. If your only input was the couple of people you tagged then that is laughably bad in your favor. Look at the OP in the thread and there's your answer, those who agreed liked the OP, plus more.
@AKM sama @Antvasima Confirm I asked clearly on the thread whether I could post the draft, and you replied with yes.
Ok. Two people? One of which certainly later proved themselves unaware of most of the changes you'd made.
Because it's not false information, it is information you disagree with.
It is wrong information that barely anybody agreed on. It should not be there.
After having asked to input on the thread for two whole days, whose fault is that? Yours.
I apologise for having a life then. And apologise for enjoying myself.
This point also barely relates to what you quoted me on. If you're referring to me not replying, then you already know why and I have nothing further to say on that subject.
If you're referring to you asking other for 2 days and getting no reply, how the hell is that even remotely my fault?
It wasn't rushed since I didn't post the file without anyone's consent.
Aight I'll go and post my draft too and apply 12 CRTs I'm planning because my friend on discord said it works...
Also, once again, that comment has literally nothing to do with what I said.
Posting with consent has absolutely nothing to do with rushing a thread along, the thread wasnt nearly done, and the rules hadn't nearly been finalized. But you posted it anyways.
They weren't, you just never made your complaints clear until AFTER the file was made, again, you doing poor verification when I clearly asked you to.
I made it abundantly clear that I would be unable to comment reliably. It isn't my fault that you didn't bother to read or take that into account.
As said I didn't know, I deadass thought given weeks of gap, you would've put forward the revision. You didn't. Your fault.
Once again, you not reading my messages, or posts on my wall that you
have visited since then, is not my fault. It's yours.
You're not obligated to ask for random file deletions either based on your personal issues, again I recognize my limits and don't penalize others for my personal errors
No I'm not obligated to do such, you're right. I think I made it very clear why I did it though.
"Conspire against the masses" have you BEEN to a wiki Discord server?
Yes I have. Generally we talk about the wiki and verses we like as friends. It's fun. You should try it.
I was going to do it afterwards, and still am. But "afterwards" hasn't come yet. Are you actually reading my posts or just making random points that fit with what you want to say?
Which was laughably derailed, yes.
You were discussing Standard Battle Assumptions when I had joined the thread
I've already said that I was trying to stop that discussion. But Ant and others insisted it was necessary. If you had cared to actually read where we were up to, you'd know that.
And? It's my fault in that? I was asking nearly every staff member I could offsite, to give a semblance of input, and they refused because they
Yes. It is your fault that you were impatient and did not wait for more opinions on the matter. Who else's would it be?
Then work on your own to have an input on it.
I am. But you've already stated I shouldn't have a say in it anyways so...
No. Everybody gets a say in a thread. If you refuse to acknowledge a user in a thread then you are either blatantly ignorant, or have some power ego that makes you more important than anyone else.
Again, your thread wasn't being discussed, it was derailed.
Again. That ain't my fault. And it was relevant to the thread.
Christ are you seriously pinning your own failure for multiple days and now weeks, to bring up your issues with the accepted format, on me?
No. I'm pinning the actions that made those issues on you.
Again, for the record, I straight up don't see what Kieran was proposing that required THIS LONG to talk about
It would have come sooner, but I'm away for the 7th time.
Actually it wouldn't have come at all, because I wouldn't have allowed the thread to go through at the stage it was at.
your prior thread was drowning in inaction, and derailment in other topics like "SBA for human involvement"
Which was agreed relevant enough to be discussed after continually being brought up by staff.
you couldn't word a single proper standard right, and were wasting time for everyone on the thread.
I wrote the original standards. They were actually discussed and agreed fine (unlike yours). I wasn't wasting time at all, it's called having structure to a thread rather than randomly throwing subjects all over the place, something I thought you'd be aware of, but apparently not.
I don't know who told you this, but have you ever written an exam? Has your history teacher or whatever, ever asked you stretch out word limits? No. You don't discuss lengths in a debate, you discuss points, and your thread was MOSTLY pointless as it had barely any relevant discussion for pages,
You showed up on like the last page of the thread and have already made it abundantly clear that you didn't read a single bit of it multiple times. The entire start of the thread was regarding important subjects, which were discussed in time and concluded. Unlike literally anything you did. So don't lecture me on how to structure stuff and act like I'm less intelligent than you.
you hadn't given a proof of concept for a SINGLE thing proposed.
Lmao just read the thread and disprove yourself, I don't have time for this kinda stuff.
You don't look at thread lengths, you look at the points discussed, not everyone like you uses the wiki as once a week deal either, slowing down wiki progress to a snail's crawl.
I'm on the wiki everyday thanks. and I was on that thread, multiple times, everyday, for over a month. Thanks.
And honestly, this is all irrelevant, I won't respond to the blame game from this point on. What matters is, deletion of the Format page, which as DT and AKM point out, is completely unnecessary.
Don't respond then. I have no problems with that.
I will see what they have to say about what I have said to them above.
AKM & DontTalk, I have replied to your comments above and would like you to consider the repercussions of keeping that format up please for the reason I mentioned in said comment.
