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Limited Ice Manip Resistance?

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So in the Silmarillion, the Noldorin High Elves essentially journey through the LotR equivalent to the Arctic (except there's no Sun or Moon yet, so worse) and eventually come out on the other side. The journey took anywhere from 27 to 144 years (depending on how you translate Years of the Trees to Solar Years) and was done without any preparation for the cold (since there were meant to be boats).

Naturally, this would probably be some degree of Ice Manipulation resistance. However, many of the Elves died on this journey. Not the majority, but a significant amount. The Elves that did survive suffered had no permanent physical afflictions, but the fact many of them died shows they have a limit.

So would this be an example of limited resistance?

The relevant quotes below.

"The Noldor came at last far into the north of Arda; and they saw the first teeth of the ice that floated in the sea, and knew that they were drawing nigh to the Helcaraxë. For between the land of Aman that in the north curved eastward, and the east-shores of Endor (which is Middle-earth) that bore westward, there was a narrow strait, through which the chill waters of the Encircling Sea and the waves of Belegaer flowed together, and there were vast fogs and mists of deathly cold, and the sea-streams were filled with clashing hills of ice and the grinding of ice deep-sunken. Such was the Helcaraxë, and there none yet had dared to tread save the Valar only and Ungoliant...

And he and his host wandered long in misery, but their valour and endurance grew with hardship; for they were a mighty people, the elder children undying of Eru Ilúvatar, but newcome from the Blessed Realm, and not yet weary with the weariness of Earth. The fire of their hearts was young, and led by Fingolfin and his sons, and by Finrod and Galadriel, they dared to pass into the bitterest North; and finding no other way they endured at last the terror of the Helcaraxë and the cruel hills of ice. Few of the deeds of the Noldor thereafter surpassed that desperate crossing in hardihood or woe. There Elenwë the wife of Turgon was lost, and many others perished also; and it was with a lessened host that Fingolfin set foot at last upon the Outer Lands. Small love for Fëanor or his sons had those that marched at last behind him, and blew their trumpets in Middle earth at the first rising of the Moon
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For 144 Years:
  • "1 Valian Day exactly equalled 1 löa or Sun-year. This was divided into 12 Hours of the Trees. Each of these therefore equalled 1⁄12 Year." - The Nature of Middle-Earth, Part One, I
  • "V.Y.2994. The Noldor came at length into the bitter North, and further along the land they could not go by ship..." - The History of Middle-Earth, SILMARILLION. II. ANNALS OF VALINOR.
  • "V.Y.2998-3000. Now Fingolfin and Inglor, son of Finrod, won their way at last with grievous losses and with diminished might into the North of Middle-earth... The First Ages are reckoned as 30000 years, or 3000 years of the Valar... the Gods made the Moon and Sun, and sent them forth over the world... With the first Moonrise Fingolfin set foot upon the North..." - Aka they arrived at the end of the Valian Years (for the context of relevance in the Legendarium).
 
This journey for the most part demonstrates limited resistance to extreme cold. The Noldor were highly resilient, capable of enduring environments that would easily kill others, but their resistance was not infinite. The survival of many but not all, and the fact that they did not suffer lasting physical damage, implies a notable but bounded capacity to withstand cold and icy conditions.

So I’d say yeah to limited resistance to ice manipulation.
 
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