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Lille Barro Vs. Raditz

Well again, after nearly every major fight/training segment in bleach, I always see them gasping for air and taking short breaks, but that may just be a problem with my eyesight.

And Raditz only got tired from being injured after brushing against piccolos special beam cannon and getting body checked by gohan.
 
Sheoth said:
Well again, after nearly every major fight/training segment in bleach, I always see them gasping for air and taking short breaks, but that may just be a problem with my eyesight.
And Raditz only got tired from being injured after brushing against piccolos special beam cannon and getting body checked by gohan.
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this
 
Sheoth said:
Well again, after nearly every major fight/training segment in bleach, I always see them gasping for air and taking short breaks, but that may just be a problem with my eyesight.
And Raditz only got tired from being injured after brushing against piccolos special beam cannon and getting body checked by gohan.
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Well they talk so much during fight (spend 4 pages explaining 1 technique) that they might not even need rest lol

I suggest inconclusive since Barro can't tag Raditz and Raditz can't damage Barro
 
Sheoth said:
Well again, after nearly every major fight/training segment in bleach, I always see them gasping for air and taking short breaks, but that may just be a problem with my eyesight.
And Raditz only got tired from being injured after brushing against piccolos special beam cannon and getting body checked by gohan.
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I'm sorry but i have to say it. This is the hax that people feared Bleach could reach. To think the day would come that an HST character that's not an endgame antagonist could contend with mid-high tiers in DBZ. But it's the truth.

DBZ has no hax to speak of despite all the raw power in the world. There's nothing they could do to Lille. Even popping the planet in a Double tko would result in DBZ characters own death first. Lille would be fine as long as he maintained Vollstandig and teleports back to the Vandenreich dimension. Still DBZ character's have shown to get tired. After a while of fighting. They are both on character Raditz is cocky and he won't evade fighting Lille, hand to hand. He will even let Lille shoot him in the first try with his arrogance. Above says, no knowledge of each other.

This is a Wi for Lille's Vollstandig .
 
I would disagree, Raditz was cocky against piccolo because piccolo wasn't his objective, he was side entertainment. The only reason he didn't murder Goku is because he wanted him alive and well. If his objective is to do a certain task, then I would imagine that he would complete it without any complete bs. If the task is impossible however, then I see Raditz being a cheating bastard, jumping ship, and running off if it truly impossible.

This is also a case of one sidedness in the OP. If you are Going to start him off in his holy form off the bat, then turn of intangibility, or give Raditz his standard equipment (i.e. His pod), or at the very least, start him in base instead. Because battles like this which are intentionally being tipped in one persons favor never end well.
 
Raditz was cocky against piccolo cuz of his power level lille barro doesnt have Ki to scale by only spiritual energy.
 
Sheoth said:
I would disagree, Raditz was cocky against piccolo because piccolo wasn't his objective, he was side entertainment. The only reason he didn't murder Goku is because he wanted him alive and well. If his objective is to do a certain task, then I would imagine that he would complete it without any complete bs. If the task is impossible however, then I see Raditz being a cheating bastard, jumping ship, and running off if it truly impossible.
This is also a case of one sidedness in the OP. If you are Going to start him off in his holy form off the bat, then turn of intangibility, or give Raditz his standard equipment (i.e. His pod), or at the very least, start him in base instead. Because battles like this which are intentionally being tipped in one persons favor never end well.
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Raditz has always been cocky, is dbz knowledge. Even to the farmer human. (Three people not a coincidence since he's always been weak he wants to take his frustration on others.) I watch dbz just incase.

Turning off his intangibility, would end in the same. I just read the chapter again to check my suspicious, but it seems that Lille was a little behind against Shunsui with his reaction and the X-axis as he says activates automatically when he is in danger. He is also aloud to used the X-axis with his gun. If Raditz decided to leave his hand on his chest, Lille will blast him with his rifle. Lille can't turn off his intangibility, once his eyes are open. That's not my fault. (That's Hax) Unfair? But character's are cheaters.

Like i said above, the result will be:

Lille Barro Vollstandig Wins against Raditz

Raditz Wins against Lille Barro in Base. (If he even can)

So, both characters get a win and a lost.
 
Faisal Shourov said:
OP doesn't even mention if it's in character or bloodlusted. The OP is missing a lot of basic battle rules
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When someone says who wins. It means normal in character. If they are bloodlusted they would have mention it. Like they do in there othere fights. But seems you ask me they aren't.
 
Raditz was cocky against them because he knew they were much weaker. When he learned that they could up their powerlevels, he began to slowly get more serious until he got wrecked by piccolo. Judging the victor of this battle based on who could outlive the other due to their age is flawed because it isn't an effective way to tell who is a better combatant.

As I have said, this is so far inconclusive: Raditz can hurt Lille, but Lille can't tag Raditz or wear him down.
 
Let's assume that he is not cocky. (Even if the internet disagrees.) Just to save Raditz. What will save Raditz when he runs out of energy? Lille Barro can teleport he won't stop looking for him in a battle. He can teleport+use shadows.

Lille Barro was dragged in a ocean of water that drains Spiritual Energy, by a reality manipulation Bankai. Then Lille Barro shows no signs of losing any energy and his stamina was fine.

There's no where for Raditz to run.

Tell me what would happen when Raditz runs out of energy? Don't tell me now that he won't. Because he doesn't have infinite energy. Unless you stop Lille's heart he can't ran out of energy.

What about his arrogance? He wouldn't put much effort on the fight. That's also a drawback since they are both in character. Raditz can also be quite a coward when facing death, as he kept struggling and begging with panic in his usually arrogant attitude when facing Piccolo's Special Beam Cannon. He was only willing to accept his death when he arrogantly believed his comrades would revive him with the Dragon Balls.
 
First of all, Raditz won't run out of energy fighting someone as weak as Lille. They have been shown to run out of energy when engaged in heavy fighting or have sustained significant damage. This won't happen fighting Lille because 1. Lille can't tag him, and 2. Raditz won't waste his energy on someone he can't touch in the first place.

Let's say Raditz dies of natural causes eventually, not having enough nourishment, dehydration, whatever; it isn't done by Lille. Saying someone dies by natural causes isn't a win for the other character. By this logic, wait a 1000 years and Lille dies as well and we have a stalemate since both fighter are now dead.

This is my last response to this topic, seeing as we aren't going anywhere, and I reiterate: Raditz can't harm him, Lille can't tag him=stalemate.
 
Sheoth said:
First of all, Raditz won't run out of energy fighting someone as weak as Lille. They have been shown to run out of energy when engaged in heavy fighting or have sustained significant damage. This won't happen fighting Lille because 1. Lille can't tag him, and 2. Raditz won't waste his energy on someone he can't touch in the first place.
Let's say Raditz dies of natural causes eventually, not having enough nourishment, dehydration, whatever; it isn't done by Lille. Saying someone dies by natural causes isn't a win for the other character. By this logic, wait a 1000 years and Lille dies as well and we have a stalemate since both fighter are now dead.

This is my last response to this topic, seeing as we aren't going anywhere, and I reiterate: Raditz can't harm him, Lille can't tag him=stalemate.
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Going by this you expect me to believe that Lille will never catch him and Raditz will have all the time to rest until he dies of old age. When Lille has two methods of teleportation and Raditz can't sense Ki. I find that hard to believe. He also lacks trust in his scouter, he doesn't believe what its shown in it. Can the scouter even sense Barro? Don't tell Lille won't find a way to catch him off guard. Like Gohan did.
 
Gohans power shot up higher than Raditz dude, that means he became faster than Raditz as well. Not to mention, Raditz was already wounded from skimming against piccolos earlier attack.

But really, let's just agree to disagree, I'm done with this topic now lol...
 
Sheoth said:
Gohans power shot up higher than Raditz dude, that means he became faster than Raditz as well. Not to mention, Raditz was already wounded from skimming against piccolos earlier attack.
But really, let's just agree to disagree, I'm done with this topic now lol...
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Agree with you
 
Since when a dbz character has lost speed because of this? If this were true a lot of calc would need to change. Been wounded is nothing like you said previously, if so then why does it apply now? Raditz stood there looking at his scouter and didn't move. He could have blitz Gohan before he even power up at that short distance with his speed. (Another example why Lille can catch him off guard.)

But yeah, let's just agree to disagree, I'm not the only one bringing this topics. As you saw in the link. There's more people out there besides them too. (Some are much worse, I don't agree with then.) But this one goes by:

Lille Wins in Vollstandig.

Raditz Wins against Lille in Base.
 
lille barro wins with easy.

1 rasitz cant hit lille.

2 lille can shoot lots

3 raditz is not faster then teleporting.so lille just teleport every where.
 
It's taken Bleach this long to get an actual intangible character....


But yeah this is inconclusive, until revival of R comes out.
 
Many people agree with the fight been Inconclusive. Then i'll accept that Barro will forever have DBZ characters running for their life. As Inconclusive. You can closed the thread now and added to their profiles.
 
Faisal Shourov said:
LordAizenSama said:
until they blow up the planet..
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saiyans cant survive in space :p
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He is reffering to Frieza, Cell, etc. Is basically what Sheot said. Barro can't kill Raditz because then he could kill everyone with the same excuse. By this you should but DBZverse as whole Inconclusive againts him. Since they can only stay a live by running from him.
 
HokageMangaVox said:
Faisal Shourov said:
LordAizenSama said:
until they blow up the planet..
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saiyans cant survive in space :p
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He is reffering to Frieza, Cell, etc. Is basically what Sheot said. Barro can't kill Raditz because then he could kill everyone with the same excuse. By this you should but DBZverse as whole Inconclusive againts him. Since they can only stay a live by running from him.
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Is his intangibility on by default or has to be activated?
 
Faisal Shourov said:
HokageMangaVox said:
Faisal Shourov said:
LordAizenSama said:
until they blow up the planet..
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saiyans cant survive in space :p
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He is reffering to Frieza, Cell, etc. Is basically what Sheot said. Barro can't kill Raditz because then he could kill everyone with the same excuse. By this you should but DBZverse as whole Inconclusive againts him. Since they can only stay a live by running from him.
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Is his intangibility on by default or has to be activated?
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Default after been revitalized, In his base form, his X-Axis activates automatically from his left eye when faced with an attack he cannot successfully defend against. Activating this power by opening his left eye during this process no weapon in the world can pierce or damage him as his body is fused with his ability The X-Axis. If he opens his eyes three times in a row during battle, he is permitted to keep them open for the entire battle. After activating 3 times, Barro enters his Volständig "Zyarael" which cases him to become intangible constantly.
 
Raditz can't melt steel beams. Therefore, he loses.

On a serious note, as others have said before, Raditz can't hurt Barro, but it'd be absurdly difficult for Barro to hit Raditz, so I'm leaning towards inconclusive. Buuuuuut to be fair, only one of the combatants can actually kill the other one, and it sure ain't the Saibaman with SSJ3 hair.

On another note, you guys remember the days when Raditz casually soloed the HST and didn't get curbed by the top tiers? Good times, good times.
 
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