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Lille Barro Vs. Raditz

Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot said:
Raditz can't melt steel beams. Therefore, he loses.
On a serious note, as others have said before, Raditz can't hurt Barro, but it'd be absurdly difficult for Barro to hit Raditz, so I'm leaning towards inconclusive. Buuuuuut to be fair, only one of the combatants can actually kill the other one, and it sure ain't the Saibaman with SSJ3 hair.

On another note, you guys remember the days when Raditz casually soloed the HST and didn't get curbed by the top tiers? Good times, good times.
Oh how times have changed...and will only continue to change. (Universe level Yhwach....jokes)
 
I haven't read the chapters with this guy, but didn't he not only just... revive after having his head chopped off, but also have access to a second form, which most other Sternritter don't? I don't exactly think crap tier Sternritter's stamina = Lille's stamina.
 
A time limit wasn't stated sure, but all I'm pointing out is the fact that Volstandig apparently isn't indefinite. It could have been a vague statement, but no one denied that it's tiring either.
 
So basically you're saying that Lille doesn't have an energy limit? I imagine if he keeps spamming attacks and missing it would go down eventually.
 
Non-Bias said:
So basically you're saying that Lille doesn't have an energy limit? I imagine if he keeps spamming attacks and missing it would go down eventually.
If you want to know his stamina go on his profile.
 
Non-Bias said:
So basically you're saying that Lille doesn't have an energy limit? I imagine if he keeps spamming attacks and missing it would go down eventually.
Have you been keeping up with Bleach? Reiryoku users: Won't lack energy unless their hearts stops beating. That's why they can't stop Aizen's spirit energy. They can't stop his heart.
 
Leave it as inconclusive then. I was pointing out that Volstandig apparently drains energy. That's it. Don't really care much for the matchup.
 
Non-Bias said:
Leave it as inconclusive then. I was pointing out that Volstandig apparently drains energy. That's it. Don't really care much for the matchup.
It does if you lack training over it and don't like to used it. Like Gisselle. I doubt an elite will make that mistake. Lille was also drag to an ocean that drains spirtual energy and that didn't affected his energy or his stamina. USA army soldiers don't lack on their their aiming, do they?
 
DC cant beat good hax, Lille earned my respect. Teleportation + regen + intangbility + durability bypassing attack is OP combo
 
TheMightyRegulator said:
This battle seems to be supporting NLF...
Inconclusive anyway.
If you are talking about the X-axis ability is not an NLF. Other character's have the ability to bypass durability. Are they NLF too? He proof that the attack is legit when his own X-axis attack bypass his Intangibility and killed him. Since it can't be block. The Godly sword reflected his attack.
 
I may point out that lots of people who don't understand a hax ability try to pass it as NLF. I used to do that and still do it occasionally.

I have seen people calling GER of Giorno Giovanna as NLF several times in the past
 
I believe he's referring to you implying that Lille Barro is limitless somehow.Even Yhwach is not limitless and needs to replenish in reishi IIRC...
 
Funny how this match is inconclusive yet Raditz still manages to beat Naruto. With that being said Barro has got the hax to go up against Raditz.
 
To me that's like saying that an advanced Bankai user doesn't suffer from energy loss because they mastered it. Volstandig is Volstandig. There's nothing different about it overall in terms of it being a battle mode in my opinion. It depends on who is using it.

Lille>>>>>Giselle before he was revived by Yhwach.

Lille>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Giselle post revival.

Of course he'll maintain Volstandig longer according to his power advantage. But I really don't see why it can be said that he'll last forever in that form when it drains power. Doesn't matter much. Just giving my opinion on the matter.
 
Oblivion00 said:
Funny how this match is inconclusive yet Raditz still manages to beat Naruto. With that being said Barro has got the hax to go up against Raditz.
Raditz beat Naruto because people were assuming he was faster with about 0 evidence...
 
Let see a rule of the X-axis: He is aloud to keep his Intagibility On until the reminder of the fight. What's does his Intangibility has to with energy? It won't turn off because he lacks energy and like Raditz he won't waist his energy knowing he can't hit him. He has High stamina and he has a lot of energy reserves. Having his energy stolen is not even a matter to him. Like i said, until Barro's heart stops beating he won't lack energy.
 
CHILLVIBEZZ said:
He's intangible in Volstandig which should require energy.If he's not in that form he's not intangible.
They you even saw his profile? He is "constantly" Intangible in Vollstandig. He is also aloud to be Intangible 3 times in base before gainning "constant" intangibility. Having "one" low-class character being tired of Vollstandig, doesn't mean an "elite" will. Because of training. Quincies can also absorb energy, so i don't see what's the problem. Didn't i already mention that Reiryoku user's won't lack energy will the hearts remind beating? That's why they can't cancel or lock a inmortal character's energy like Aizen's. They can only restraint it.
 
You do realize that I already knew of him being intangible in Volstandig constantly right? Never implied he wasn't it's the fact that he requires reishi to use that form and he doesn't have limitless amounts of it his stamina isn't limitless...
 
CHILLVIBEZZ said:
You do realize that I already knew of him being intangible in Volstandig constantly right? Never implied he wasn't it's the fact that he requires reishi to use that form and he doesn't have limitless amounts of it his stamina isn't limitless...
Neither is Raditz. Barro can continue to use his Vollstandig will having his energy stolen and he doesn't show sings of lossing his transformation. Like he said, the ability alouds him to use his "ability" for the remaining of the fight. Until you can show me away to stop Barro's heart he doesn't lacks energy. This was stated in the manga. You're talking about Reishi. Is not the same. He can absorb Reishi, he doesn't have Reishi. He has Reiryoku and Reiatsu is a completly different thing as well. He never shown to be tired or to even feel pain. He only weaknes is his eyes, he can left himself blind for a while by his light reflected back at him. That also doesn't show that his "intagibility" turns off.
 
CHILLVIBEZZ said:
Again never insinuated Raditz was limitless either.But Barro definitely isn't himself too
Proof? He is the Ultimate creation by Yhwach, who is basically the new "god" Can you debunk the manga laws on how their energie works? Because there are 4 ways of energy in Bleach inside the same catolog, and anime doesn't make sense compare to real life.

1-Reiryoku

2-Reishi

3-Reiatsu

4-Soul Manipulation within objects (Fullbringers)
 
Being a God doesn't give you limitless stamina and if you want to argue he does have it I suggest making a thread about it.
 
CHILLVIBEZZ said:
Being a God doesn't give you limitless stamina and if you want to argue he does have it I suggest making a thread about it.
He doesn't have limitess staminia, but he has limitless energy reserves and with it he won't tired. Let me explain then in short:

1-Reiryoku= is a power aligned with the spiritual sensitivity and willpower of the user. It is used by Shinigami and other spiritual beings to provide power for their various abilities. Unless the user heart stops beating this energy won't fade away. (Stamina)

2-Reishi=is the main component material of Souls and all spiritual matter. Reishi is invisible to mortals, with the exception of spiritually aware ones such as the Quincy. Quincy collect this Reishi to use for combat in the form of Spirit Weapons. Reishi in the atmosphere is also able to be controlled freely, allowing a person to gather it under their feet so that they can stand in air. (Lille can also fly with his wings)

3-Reitasu= is the physical force/pressure that a person's Reiryoku creates when released.

4-Souls (Fullbring)=They can manipulate the souls that reside in all physical matter
 
CHILLVIBEZZ said:
I'm going to read bleach again either way but sure for now this seems reasonable.
Fair enough. The match was Inconclusive, (By the majority of votes) can somebody closed this?
 
These terms are being misconstrued. Simply having energy constantly generated until your heart stops beating doesn't mean you have limitless stamina or won't get tired. They can still drain themselves of their current supply and need time for it to recharge. If they were truly limitless in their ability to fight, we wouldn't see the characters getting clearly exhausted during fights.

Reishi as well, isn't something empowering the quincys themselves, they harness it in the form of weapons. If you give a human bullets for a gun, they can use it to fight, but they won't physically gain any stamina from it.
 
You do know that nearly 90% percent of other shows also have this capability right?, Your implying that by collecting energy from his surrounding that would give him a limitless supply of energy, it does sound like its NLF, pretty much other shows that can collect energy from their surrounding they would have limitless reserve. Then by your logic Goku has limitless reserves then, he is able to gather energy from the entire universe and use it for himself. Naruto has litmitless reserve by being able to acquire energy using Sage Mode and so does Natsu for being able to gather Eternano from the air. See how that clashes with what your implying?. Also your speaking like Bleach is the only show that as long as they are alive they will regenerate energy. Pretty sure that almost those other shows are the same, even DBZ as long as you are alive you can keep generating KI until you die and even then you can still generate KI while being a soul. What your describing is what almost every show is able to do as a basic, generate energy as long as they are still breathing.
 
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