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Lille Baro's Intangibility Misconception.
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so I am going to go with TSBs can block it.
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1.all chakra came from nature energy/jubi yet it still not nature energy
2.all biju came frome jubi yet they still does not have nature energy
3.nature energy =/= senjutsu
3. tobirama said only senjutsu work so it doesnt metter if bleach character use ninjutsu or not
so that not going to work
if u guys not going to stop using NLF then why should we
2.all biju came frome jubi yet they still does not have nature energy
3.nature energy =/= senjutsu
3. tobirama said only senjutsu work so it doesnt metter if bleach character use ninjutsu or not
so that not going to work
if u guys not going to stop using NLF then why should we
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He was not using X-Axis there because when he revived by Auswahlen he said that he couldn't use his real power which is X-Axis.AppleLord said:
Where are those scans from ?
I've read somewhere that Gerard was saying to Lille that what a disgrace for him who can pierce through anything.
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Senjutsu (õ╗ÖÞíô, English TV: Sage Jutsu, Literally meaning: Sage Techniques) is a specialized field of techniques that allows the user to sense and then gather natural energy. Senjutsu practitioners learn to draw the energy of nature inside of them, blending it with their own chakra.
This is exactly the same thing Quincy do. Verse equalization takes care of the rest.
This is exactly the same thing Quincy do. Verse equalization takes care of the rest.
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No. He said that he did not manage to show his real power (X-Axis) when he fought Oetsu. Is more of him not choosing to use it, than anything else. (Since he claims he was the first quincy given a letter by Yhwach) How come the other Quincy use their powers, but Lille can't? Lmao
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We are saying the same thing bruh.AppleLord said:
Gerard couldn't use his letter too.
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so u are saying Quincy are sage user now
that mean sage user from naruto verse are now Quincy nice
so that mean Quincy can use SM power like they are invulnerable to TSB power null
and SM user can use Quincy power and that mean SM user can erase soul many others ability do u agree @AppleLord
did u see what i did here and this is nothing but BS and u did the same
no amount of vers equalization can give u senjutsu
senjutsu is an ability u cant equalize ability unless i am missing something
that mean sage user from naruto verse are now Quincy nice
so that mean Quincy can use SM power like they are invulnerable to TSB power null
and SM user can use Quincy power and that mean SM user can erase soul many others ability do u agree @AppleLord
did u see what i did here and this is nothing but BS and u did the same
no amount of vers equalization can give u senjutsu
senjutsu is an ability u cant equalize ability unless i am missing something
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This is off-topic but i must say that this is actually nonsense.AppleLord said:
Dont get me wrong i'm not saying nonsense to you but i'm saying nonsense to that power.
Because when Byakuya also killed him there wasn't anyone afraid of him.
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Whatever guys.
What do we conclude now for Lille and X-Axis ?
What do we conclude now for Lille and X-Axis ?
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Jesus christ, guys...it's not that hard. The point is, Lille's "Intange" is becoming X-Axis. X-Axis interacts with molecules to produce the Piercing effects. So, it's inaccurate to say "Lille can't be touched".
That's why I likened it to Logia "Intange".
Also, when did Shunsui destroy his body?
That's why I likened it to Logia "Intange".
Also, when did Shunsui destroy his body?
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Please stop using headcanon about his intangibility, Logia is elemental intangibility and Lille is Immaterial as labeled on this wiki.
Immaterial: This type of intangibility allows the user to phase through most attacks due to not being made up of a physical substance, such as ghosts or characters who merely exist as a disembodied soul. It also includes characters that are made up of things like energy. Of course, this intangibility type still has its own weaknesses - a soul is vulnerable to soul manipulation, for example.
His name is even labeled under it as an example.
Immaterial: This type of intangibility allows the user to phase through most attacks due to not being made up of a physical substance, such as ghosts or characters who merely exist as a disembodied soul. It also includes characters that are made up of things like energy. Of course, this intangibility type still has its own weaknesses - a soul is vulnerable to soul manipulation, for example.
His name is even labeled under it as an example.
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Except i'm not using headcanon when the manga specifically states otherwise. But apparently you are if you can't understand how X-Axis works.
You idjits (Supernatural quote) keep making shit up and pulling shit out of asses to justify headcanon then act condecsending when it doesn't hold up to scrutiny.
I don't care what is on his wiki page regarding this. It's false. Thus the CTR. X-Axis isn't an immaterial ability, dude, get that through your skull. And Lilles Body isn't pure "light" he bleeds.
You idjits (Supernatural quote) keep making shit up and pulling shit out of asses to justify headcanon then act condecsending when it doesn't hold up to scrutiny.
I don't care what is on his wiki page regarding this. It's false. Thus the CTR. X-Axis isn't an immaterial ability, dude, get that through your skull. And Lilles Body isn't pure "light" he bleeds.
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@Omimi Senjutsu is not even an ability. Is the name of a process of mixing nature energy with your own. Sage Mode is the ability. We do not equalize abilities. Reishi will equal Nature energy in this case, and mix with their own spiritual energy.
What you're claiming is completely different.
What you're claiming is completely different.
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Scans and i'll concede.AppleLord said:
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Scans and i'll concede.
Lille's body is made of light in this form.
Lille's blood can be seen hitting her here.
She notice the light cut her in this scan.
He also regenerated into a weaker form from those sparks of blood later when he exploded. (Multiple forms like Pernida.)
Lille's body is made of light in this form.
Lille's blood can be seen hitting her here.
She notice the light cut her in this scan.
He also regenerated into a weaker form from those sparks of blood later when he exploded. (Multiple forms like Pernida.)
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I forgot he had that form...I had this form in my mind the entire time:
This form isn't made of light and Bleeds actual Blood. The one you posted is still Comparable to Logia Intange though, through Kizaru. So still, it's not like "Light" is intangible.
This form isn't made of light and Bleeds actual Blood. The one you posted is still Comparable to Logia Intange though, through Kizaru. So still, it's not like "Light" is intangible.
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Ability= possession of the means or skill to do something.
Technique= a way of carrying out a particular task, especially the execution or performance of an artistic work or a scientific procedure.
You somehow miss my interpretation of the first definition over the second one where is similar.
Technique= a way of carrying out a particular task, especially the execution or performance of an artistic work or a scientific procedure.
You somehow miss my interpretation of the first definition over the second one where is similar.
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He was already intangible in his base form and Jilliel form with a body made of Reishi. This is why he has Immaterial Intangibility.
But in his Chicken form he had already Immaterial Intangibility. Plus he had a body made of Light which is made of Reishi(Similar to Kizaru). So he had Elemental Intangibility either.
So he has 2 kind of Intangibility. And because he is made of Light , he should have Speed of Light then ?
Lightspeed Bleach ?
But in his Chicken form he had already Immaterial Intangibility. Plus he had a body made of Light which is made of Reishi(Similar to Kizaru). So he had Elemental Intangibility either.
So he has 2 kind of Intangibility. And because he is made of Light , he should have Speed of Light then ?
Lightspeed Bleach ?
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Probably not. Generating light also doesn't mean you are made of light.AppleLord said:
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even if we equaliz Reishi and NE
Quincy will never able to use SM power
nor SM user will ever able to use Quincy power
and NE is not invulnerable to power null only SM are invulnerable to it
as i said b4 no amount of vers equalization will let u use senjutsu /Quincy power
sage mode=/= Quincy
Quincy will never able to use SM power
nor SM user will ever able to use Quincy power
and NE is not invulnerable to power null only SM are invulnerable to it
as i said b4 no amount of vers equalization will let u use senjutsu /Quincy power
sage mode=/= Quincy
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why is sage mode and senjutsu being discussed?? Senjutsu is the abilities used by Sages like ninjutsu are the different abilities used by Ninjas.
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The issue is, his "Molecules" can still be touched. Again, his Ability to allow things to pass through him is "X-Axis". And "X-Axis" isn't form of Immaterial Intange. If he were to be hit by a full body attack like say a Spirit Bomb and he used this ability. The equivalent is him hitting someone with xa full body X-Axis shot.Ren Nightray said:
He has not shown "Regen" or "Passing through" from a full body attack. This is based on his words and feats.
Also, in such a case, for example, abilities that negate other abilities like say, the TSB for example who negate "X-Axis intange" as Lille wouldn't be able to Allow it to "pass through him" because X-Axis wouldn't be able to "Heal" it passing through him like Edo Tensei.
This is why saying "He's untouchable" is false.
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@Omimi We are not talking about Sage Mode, but Senjutsu in general. Just because they can't transform into sage doesn't mean it can't affect them when we have canon evidence that Sasuke obtained Senjutsu from Jugo and was able to hurt Obito with it. Sasuke wasn't using Sage Mode now was he?
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you cant obtain senjutsu without having nature energy and jugos curse mark ehanced his susanno with nature energy and thats why the susanno looked like it had the curse mark on it. You can use nature energy without being in a specific sage mode also like Jugo and Curse mark sasuke who was technically using nature energy when he was younger
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