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well he tried using the death note while he was surrounded by people with firearms, so it doesn't seem like he knew that
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Light Yagami VS Walter White
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awesome
anyways yeah light tries to kill a hardened criminal in a gunfight and ends up getting shot to death, crazy i know
anyways yeah light tries to kill a hardened criminal in a gunfight and ends up getting shot to death, crazy i know
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Can Light just search up criminals who have been known to sell or use meth in the area and then write their names down and force the criminals to write down the names of everyone they know of who is a meth drug dealer, then make them mail the list of names to himself by various means. After getting the list of all or a good chunk of the criminals involved in the business in the area, he can just search them up on the internet and get pictures of their faces and do the same strat over again until one of them happens to be Jesse Pinkman and then Jesse will reveal Heisenberg's true name and then bam.
If the rules don't allow outside help, then nvm to everything above lol
If the rules don't allow outside help, then nvm to everything above lol
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Heh cool then.
Also forgot to mention Saul Goodman is widely known to be dealing with these type of people and of course he knows who Heisenberg is, so if Light most likely deduces Saul might know something, then he'll make Saul give up the name.
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Guess you could say...
Light better call Saul
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light still has to write walts name down during the fight without getting shot to death, as i’m pretty sure you aren’t allowed to kill your opponent during prep time
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grace is already over but ok
very true, huell hits light with a sandwich bag and he dies
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That's right, that's why Light brings a gun to the fight and kills Walt with it.
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Erm... previous arguments of why Light gets outshot handily apply lol
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Oh I see my bad. Oh well it fun to put out the argument anyway. I just found it weird that Light would actually put himself at risk by participating in a gun fight in the first place.
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Light can resist a few bullets before succumbing to his wounds.
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Not one straight to the dome considering Heisenburg over here almost always aims for the head
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How many people has he killed with that method?
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I'm assuming smoke here knows what he's talkin bout, just saying though, Light, regardless of circumstances, is less skilled with firearms then the hardened criminal, even shooting center mass is debilitating for Light.
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walt has shot four people, with three out of four of those kills being headshots. the one exception is mike. however, walt killed mike in a blind rage, and likely wasn't thinking of where to aim at that point.
it doesn't matter though, because non-fatal shots will still leave light wheezing on the ground and open to attacks.
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i just realized that threatening saul likely wouldn’t even work, since saul has given people false information in similar situations
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I meant Light can write Saul's name down in the notebook and make Saul do whatever he wants. I wrote that big paragraph before the Saul part where I already explained Light can control criminals.
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iirc he can make you commit suicide but its not like he can make you get him a sandwich, otherwise he would have just mind controlled everyone to stop tailing kira
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another thing, “saul goodman” is an alias, so it wouldn’t work in the death note
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Light can make him confess with the Death Note.
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That's incorrect, the death note can make people do whatever is written down in the notebook (for the most part). Light made one of Mello's men send him the address of Mello's hideout by just writing down that the guy would do so. If you watched the series or read the manga, you would know that Light would need everyone's names and faces in order to do that (which he didn't have) and they would all die at a certain point, thus raising more suspicions. At absolute most, Light can only control people for about a month until they would all die. Obviously this would only get in the way of killing L which was his prime objective that took priority over simply never getting caught.
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I know that, but Light would obviously figure out what's his real name.
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ok
how would he find out about saul though? he’s only been there for a few days. walt lived in albuquerque for decades and never knew who saul was until jesse told him
how would he find out about saul though? he’s only been there for a few days. walt lived in albuquerque for decades and never knew who saul was until jesse told him
how
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Saul told Walter his real name when they first met lol, he isn't exactly hiding it like L. Also you can just search it up, Walter simply never tried that because he didn't know of his existence. Saul is not some unknown guy either, he's pretty infamous for his antics seen in Better Call Saul.
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he only gave his last name, up until bcs everyone thought his real name was "saul mcgill"
light wouldn't know about his existence either
light and saul are from separate countries and separate verses, how would light know about him
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I never said he gave out his full name, my point was that Saul isn't actively trying to hide his name, like L, nor is it hard to search up his name, he ain't from wammy's house or something dude, you know what I mean.
Obviously he would research the area and eventually find out. Dude even regular people know Saul did business with Lalo Salamanca, that rep hasn't gone away. One of Saul's private detectives managed to find out who Walter really was in like an hour lol. Now imagine trying to do research into Saul, who's info is basically public unlike Walter and imagine the person trying to figure this out is LIGHT YAGAMI. C'mon now.
I don't know if you're trolling or what dude, the premise of the OP is that Walter and Light are in the same verse or else this match up is impossible. As for being in separate countries, Mello and his gang were in LA and Light, using the internet and info from the FBI, still managed to figure out who worked for Mello and where Mello's headquarters was located. Light was in the US when he did this but he should be able to access the FBI's intel wherever he is in the world, it doesn't matter. Even his father figured out a FBI's agent's real name from Japan.
Anyway, idk why you still trying to debate in this thread since grace is over, but we can go to discord if you really want to buddy. If you haven't noticed, I know a lot about both Death Note and Breaking Bad, so I don't mind continuing on discord.
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i don't think saul wants his clients to know his full name, considering that he never tells them. for example, when lalo asks what the letters on his briefcase stand for, saul lies and says it stands for "justice matters most"
i actually don't know what that means, what does that mean
that was because saul already knew badger was involved with heisenberg, and was able to have badger lead mike to jesse. mike followed jesse, found the rv, and traced the equipment to walt's high school. light doesn't have any connections to anyone in albuquerque, let alone anyone involved with walt's drug empire, so he'd have a harder time than saul did.
so light happens to find out who saul is (despite him probably looking for other meth dealers rather than lawyers), then he finds out that saul knows about heisenberg...somehow, then he writes down saul's name, realizes it's an alias, and discovers his identity, all in the span of seven days. i know light's smart, but i dont see him finding out about saul that quickly.
they werent in the same verse prior to light's seven days of prep, that isn't how matches work here
right now i'm doing this for the debate itself, not for the votes. grace has ended, but someone's brought up an argument, and i'm arguing back because i want to.
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post your discord then
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That's the problem, you're severely underestimating Light's intelligence.
Judging by your replies, i think you haven't even watched Death Note...
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nah, this isn't even about his intelligence. it's moreso that light would probably look for meth dealers instead of lawyers. i know light's a genius, and he would definitely find saul if he was looking for him, but, like, why would he be trying to find a lawyer of all things?
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It's pretty logical to assume that a drug kingpin such as Heisenberg would need a proper lawyer to get him out of legal troubles and Saul Goodman is the ideal lawyer for that.
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would light seriously decide to spend his seven days to prepare for a fight with a drug kingpin on trying to contact his lawyer
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It won't take seven days, two days at most.
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you are missing the point
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