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I am voting stomp.
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Let's see if Cal was right: -mon vs Yhwach
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@Dragon Just look at her power sectio.
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Why are you showing me this?Homu Sweet Homu said:
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I never argued Causality tho. Matter of fact I have argued this entire time Yhwach stomps.
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Yhwach's Almighty is the most NLF ability in Bleach, a verse filled with NLF ability descriptions. And it isn't much better because practically every single one of it's superlative properties gets contradicted on-panel.
So it is always suspect when people go "Lol Yhwach Power Nulls / Haxes immediately". Yhwach himself addresses the limitations of his power, which only changes his own future and is bound by what he can do himself.
Anyway, Yhwach canonically displays a difficulty dealing with temporal powers not related to the future, has never dealt with Time Stop, and Timemon's Causality Manipulation seems more impressive.
So my vote is on Timemon.
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If only Kubo hadn't told us that the Almighty could resurrect him post death (whoops, doesn't matter if he died now) or negate power nullification (whoops, doesn't matter that he got hit with the plot arrow now) or see through enemy powers (whoops, doesn't matter that KS is being used on him now) or nullify enemy powers (whoops, doesn't matter that KS is being used on him now x2 combo) |
Anyway, Yhwach canonically displays a difficulty dealing with temporal powers not related to the future, has never dealt with Time Stop, and Timemon's Causality Manipulation seems more impressive.
So my vote is on Timemon.
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Temporal abilities such as? I don't recall Yhwach ever struggling against such a thing.
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I mean, changing past and reverse the present to past are two different things.
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I don't think that's a temporal ability, rather a form of causality manipulation. And even then it didn't do much to the Almighty, he simply fixed Ichigo's Zangetsu. Yhwach broke that shit again.
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"Book of the End has the ability to split the past of whomever it cuts. This ability works not by manipulating time and memories, but by literally inserting Tsukishima's presence into the victim's history."
So no, Yhwach never struggled with any form of temporal powers. And even then all it did was fix Ichigo's Zangetsu which Yhwach broke again.
So no, Yhwach never struggled with any form of temporal powers. And even then all it did was fix Ichigo's Zangetsu which Yhwach broke again.
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Tsukishima's ability to influence the past is a blatant example of temporal powers countering the Almighty.
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Matthew Schroeder said:
Said ability is already confirmed not to be temporal. Even if we do ignore that, Yhwach never showed any difficulty with it whatsoever. Thrid time now all it did was fix his Zanpakuto and Yhwach broke it again.
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The issue here is whether this is passive or not. That is the issue.
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No, it is not passive.
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Can you guys stop quoting the Bleach wiki? c:
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Dragonmasterxyz said:
Depends on what you mean. The Almighty itself doesn't stop once it's already activated, and the power null takes effect instantly. I wouldn't call it passive but it's very close to being passive.
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Inserting one presence into the victim's history sounds like a Temporal ability to me, especially when it was shown to affect the present multiple times.
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Matthew Schroeder said:
Can you stop inserting your own head Canon? c:
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Now Timemon Age Manipulation works by punching. Of course he will do so while stopping Yhwach in time.
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Dragonmasterxyz said:
Yhwach doesn't age normally. How fast does it work?
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>My ability doesn't affect time
>Says ability affects the past of others in the next line.
past
nou
noun: the past
"she found it hard to make ends meet in the past"
>Says ability affects the past of others in the next line.
past
nou
noun: the past
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"she found it hard to make ends meet in the past"
| synonyms: | formerly, previously, in days/years/times gone by, in former times, in the (good) old days, in days of old, in olden times, once (upon a time); More |
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He can de age him and redirect his flow of time. The moment he punches Yhwach, Timemon has complete control over Yhwach's time flow.
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| Timemon is an Appmon with the rare ability to transcend the flow of time and space. It is able to interfere with not only its own flow of time, but also the flow of time of any opponent it strikes with its fists. |
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Dragonmasterxyz said:
I'm not sure if Yhwach would allow him to hit him. Typically Yhwach will abuse the Almighty from the start of the match, he'll see a future where that happens and will avoid it. Btw this dude reminds me of Barragan. But on steroids.
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I should note that it is in character for Timemon even when casually playing around to stop time for his opponent. This is done via thought.
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Yhwach can rewrite causality to replace the futures where he loses with ones where he wins except for the most crucial moment of the final arc where he didn't do that and ******* died.
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