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Legendary Golden Heroes Fight! (Lloyd Garmadon vs Sonic The Hedgehog)
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and finally another vote
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Why wouldn't Super Sonic dodge? And how Lloyd would negate his invulnerability exactly? Lloyd is baseline Low 2-C or just slightly above it
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it says he can negate invulnerability via hurting the stone warrriors
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Lloyd has Résistance negation that he quite literally used to negate invulnerability.
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and llyod is not "slightly' above uni+ he's pretty high into it, he also has invulnerability as well
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Why does the Stone Warriors have invulnerability? From what I see they just are massive stonewalls by having Low 2-C durability, which is why the Ninja can't harm them.
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Lloyd has a shit ton of hax on top of resistance negation, plus precognition
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they were literally described as being indestructible and invulnerable to any attack
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Actually no.
Ultimate Spinjitzu Master Lloys >>> Overlord = First Spinjitsu Master = Baseline Low 2-C
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Scans?
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It was something like this, their invulnerability was negated but they still took hits, meaning it was that their invulnerability was negated yet they had physical durability to withstand (not tank) their blows
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Haxes that he don't start with. Like at all. These are OOC for him
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Idk honestly. Going off the profile here
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Again, please show scans for your claim
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He has precognition. So he’ll use when (if) he sees he’s gonna start losing
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It’s not my claim it’s for the profile. Gonna look for it rn
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Precognition is also ooc for him. I don't remember a single time Lloyd actually used it
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OK idk how credible that is. From Ninjago wiki
| “The Overlord created his Stone Army from an indestructible material only found on the Dark Island.” |
| — Misako, "The Stone Army" |
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Lloyd doesn't start with precog, he doesn't even know he has that power, it was at the elemental tournament that he found out about that power.
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the only video i can find that explains what the stone army has
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That's... literally just some guy on YouTube
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This description from their VSBW profile:
"Once they fought the Creator of Ninjago, the latter was completely overwhelmed, as the Warriors were completely indestructible and immune to his powers, but he managed to create an Elemental Blade, which negated their invulnerability and immunity."
"Once they fought the Creator of Ninjago, the latter was completely overwhelmed, as the Warriors were completely indestructible and immune to his powers, but he managed to create an Elemental Blade, which negated their invulnerability and immunity."
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i know. i couldn't find the clip where they were saying that the stone army is indestructible on youtube and this was the only thing, ill try to look for it
Gilad_Hyperstar
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I would rather get that from an actual episode if you don't mind. Since this is a video made by a fan to explain it, you can't base the canon on it
Gilad_Hyperstar
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This should be proved with a scan
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Ok so far I found the scan of their invulnerability
but not First SPinjitsu Master negating it. Imma look some more
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Ok so from what I understood the Elemental Blades were created specifically to counter their invulnerability
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FOUND IT
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Ok. That is indeed legit
That said, when Lloyd does it and hurts Super Sonic, he would immediately realize that Lloyd is a serious threat and hax him instantly
That said, when Lloyd does it and hurts Super Sonic, he would immediately realize that Lloyd is a serious threat and hax him instantly
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BRUH, took me years to find that scan
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Here's a quote from Ninjago wiki
| “The Scrolls say there is a hidden temple on the island. If you find it, it will give the ninja pure elemental powers, powers that can destroy the indestructible army.” |
| — Misako referring to the Elemental Blades in "Island of Darkness" |
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When he does for hax, what does he generally start with?
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Also, when facing Dark Gaia who could harm Super Sonic, I don't think he immediately went for hax or anything.
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Being on topic that's also classic sonic who don't usually use hax if I remember correctly.
Voting for Loyd FRA at this moment.
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Ok I think this needs to be discussed a bit more. Neither really start with hax or anything but it also would be pretty stupid to assume they won't use hax at all under any circumstances. Been ages since I watched Ninjago, did Lloyd ever use hax? Cause in his fight will Overlord it was just punching and shooting beams.
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To be fair, that's also the same game where it's the one and only appearance of a health bar and Sonic never actually seems to be in pain when he's hit iirc, he just shrugs it off. I think it's moreso a mechanic of "Hey, get hit too many times and you drop out of the form" sort of deal. And in alternate versions of the game, there is no health bar to begin with. Kinda weird.
I'll come back to this matchup in a bit tho.
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Sonic doesn't have invulnerability (ironically enough), he has stonewall durability, from what I read he can negate invul but not dura itself, also Super Sonic definitvely dodges in his fights, you kinda have to even win the fights in the game. Not voting btw
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Ok I take way my vote for now I need to think
