Layered hax vs layered regen (STOMP)

[kuramamyfav68]

Yakagi Suimei vs D
speed equal
strongest versions for both (so D with the Akashic Records)

Yakagi Suimei:

D, the Vampire Hunter:

Incon:

 

[Vietthai96]

Yakagi Suimei vs D
speed unequal
strongest versions for both (so D with the Akashic Records)

Yakagi Suimei:

D, the Vampire Hunter:
Incon:

equalize speed, or D just blitz due to immeasurable speed

 

[kuramamyfav68]

Ok. Will do so (also because it'd be more fun this way).

 

[Orioreeem]

Gonna be interesting

 

[kuramamyfav68]

Bump.

 

[kuramamyfav68]

Bump.

 

[kuramamyfav68]

Bump.

 

[Vietthai96]

To be honest, no one interested in debating this kind of match, due to massive wall of hax from both character. Which made the match become dull and boring due to we just comparing who have better hax and their layers

 

[rawXDglomp]

Also strongest version of D is 1-c and strongest version of this guy is 6-c. No one's gonna try to rationialize winning such an absurd gap in power because first generic anime guy has 15 more lines of meaningless hax.

 

[kuramamyfav68]

Also strongest version of D is 1-c and strongest version of this guy is 6-c. No one's gonna try to rationialize winning such an absurd gap in power because first generic anime guy has 15 more lines of meaningless hax.

Thing is, Yakagi is a smurf, on a low 1c level too.

 

[Vietthai96]

Thing is, Yakagi is a smurf, on a low 1c level too.

Well

 

[rawXDglomp]

Thing is, Yakagi is a smurf, on a low 1c level too.

His profile doesn't seem to reflect that.

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

This fight seems pretty even, can this Vampire guy resist a 6 layered power null?...,if not, his abilities get shot down

 

[kuramamyfav68]

His profile doesn't seem to reflect that.

He's got low 1c range.

 

[kuramamyfav68]

This fight seems pretty even, can this Vampire guy resist a 6 layered power null?...,if not, his abilities get shot down

I'm not a supporter of VHD. It'd be great if someone could call them here...

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

equalize speed, or D just blitz due to immeasurable speed

Ok, so Vampire better have some kind of Fate manipulation negation or some blessing neg stuff, otherwise, Yakagi's Fate would be saving Yakagi's ass all the time...,and passives are Infinite iirc, but yeah, inmesurable is faster than passives.

 

[kuramamyfav68]

Ok, so Vampire better have some kind of Fate manipulation negation or some blessing neg stuff, otherwise, Yakagi's Fate would be saving Yakagi's ass all the time...,and passives are Infinite iirc, but yeah, inmesurable is faster than passives.

D exists outside of (and resists) the low 1c Akashic Records, which work on those with type 4 acausality. The resistances are in his first resistance tabber. He's a type 4 acausal.

 

[kuramamyfav68]

This fight seems pretty even, can this Vampire guy resist a 6 layered power null?...,if not, his abilities get shot down

Even if (let's say) he doesn't, he's still physically universal. So it'd be either a one-shot, or an incon.

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

D exists outside of (and resists) the low 1c Akashic Records, which work on those with type 4 acausality. The resistances are in his first resistance tabber. He's a type 4 acausal.

Yakagi's Fate manipulation works on himself, he doesn't use it offensively.

 

[kuramamyfav68]

Yakagi's Fate manipulation works on himself, he doesn't use it offensively.

It's rendered useless against D, or (like I said above), would only serve as an incon option.

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

Even if (let's say) he doesn't, he's still physically universal. So it'd be either a one-shot, or an incon.

Nah, Yakagi is basically blessed, he won fights against enemies leagues above him physically, such as a Goddes which was Low Complex Multiversal, iirc

 

[kuramamyfav68]

Nah, Yakagi is basically blessed, he won fights against enemies leagues above him physically, such as a Goddes which was Low Complex Multiversal, iirc

Via hax. Also, D has layered high-godly, and resists the records. Yakagi's not beating him just like that.

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

It's rendered useless against D, or (like I said above), would only serve as an incon option.

Again, Yakagi's Fate manipulation is a passive ability that works on himself, he is basically blessed. He doesn't use the ability offensively.

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

Via hax. Also, D has layered high-godly, and resists the records. Yakagi's not beating him just like that.

Well, can you name me the list of Haxxes D resists.

Becouse Suimei's Dark Magic can affect 5-D Gods, and he also got resistance negation with a curse.

 

[kuramamyfav68]

Well, can you name me the list of Haxxes D resists.

Becouse Suimei's Dark Magic can affect 5-D Gods, and he also got resistance negation with a curse.

D resists basically everything Suimei has. Could you please look at his profile? The first tab (or 2) of his resistances, and the last one.

 

[Vietthai96]

Becouse Suimei's Dark Magic can affect 5-D Gods, and he also got resistance negation with a curse.

You know that D is 6D right??? Why 5D is relevant here??

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

You know that D is 6D right??? Why 5D is relevant here??

What???...I thought D was only 5D..,this is frickin stomp!!!

Yeah, this should be closed

 

[kuramamyfav68]

You know that D is 6D right??? Why 5D is relevant here??

He's not (iirc). He's physically universal, with 5d passives and smurf hax/resistances. Again, is it possible to call the VHD supporters here?

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

D resists basically everything Suimei has. Could you please look at his profile? The first tab (or 2) of his resistances, and the last one.

Suimei has resistance negation by applying curses to his attacks.

 

[Vietthai96]

So how much D he(D) have (lol)

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

So all comes down if D has layered resistances, becouse if not, Suimei just negs his and incaps, but yes, he can't kill him

 

[kuramamyfav68]

So all comes down if D has layered resistances, becouse if not, Suimei just negs his and incaps, but yes, he can't kill him

D can evolve, so eventually Yakagi gets stomped.

 

[kuramamyfav68]

Suimei has resistance negation by applying curses to his attacks.

Probably resists that.

 

[Vietthai96]

I have a feeling this will turn into another Anos vs Rimuru kind of battle

 

[kuramamyfav68]

I have a feeling this will turn into another Anos vs Rimuru kind of battle

Anos stomps Yakagi due to nep 2. Also, D has plot hax with the Records.

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

Probably resists that.

If he doesn't have layered Hax resistances, no

 

[kuramamyfav68]

If he doesn't have layered Hax resistances, no

Adapts and one-shots. Or incon. Incap is impossible.

 

[Vietthai96]

If he doesn't have layered Hax resistances, no

I think he do have layered resistances due to Akashic Record (now that talking about AR, this term seem to be really popular across fictions)
However we need to call VHD experts to know

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

Adapts and one-shots. Or incon. Incap is impossible.

No, you can't adapt faster before resistance negation takes effect.

If you don't have resistance to resistance negation, you are affected, that's how it works in these site.

 

[rawXDglomp]

Isn't the point of dimensional tiering specifically to prevent no-limit fallacies like 'character adapts or grows stronger in fights, so he can beat literally anyone ever in 1 hit'? Has he ever adapted to beat layered resistances or whatever the **** before?