Battle for 5th strongest 8C

[kuramamyfav68]

speed equal
tier 8 version for D

Bouichirou Yamato:

D, the Vampire Hunter:

Incon:

 

[kuramamyfav68]

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[DontTalkDT]

Wow, D's profile sure is terribly hard to read.

Anyway, Yamato's subjective reality stuff depends a lot on how hard you want to extrapolate things. Personally, I don't like going the full-on reality warping route for anyone but Akuto.
Outside of that Yamato isn't very strong. D's lack of Type 1 Acausality makes me wonder if time travel stuff would work... but other than that I see no advantages for Yamato.

 

[kuramamyfav68]

Wow, D's profile sure is terribly hard to read.

Anyway, Yamato's subjective reality stuff depends a lot on how hard you want to extrapolate things. Personally, I don't like going the full-on reality warping route for anyone but Akuto.
Outside of that Yamato isn't very strong. D's lack of Type 1 Acausality makes me wonder if time travel stuff would work... but other than that I see no advantages for Yamato.

but he's got types 2 and 4 tho. Having 2 automatically negs any time paradox stuff, no? His resistances are also all on a low 1c level.

 

[DontTalkDT]

but he's got types 2 and 4 tho. Having 2 automatically negs any time paradox stuff, no? His resistances are also all on a low 1c level.

Idk how does the whole akashic records stuff work? Like, if being outside of the akashic records means he literally has no past, wouldn't he also not exist in the present since he in the present is not part of the akashic records either? It sounds somewhat contradictory and more like he evades the effect of a causality manip device.

 

[kuramamyfav68]

Idk how does the whole akashic records stuff work? Like, if being outside of the akashic records means he literally has no past, wouldn't he also not exist in the present since he in the present is not part of the akashic records either? It sounds somewhat contradictory and more like he evades the effect of a causality manip device.

Doesn't type 2 acausality work like that tho? Anyway, I'm not a knowledgeable member, so I'll try contacting them.

 

[kuramamyfav68]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/d-vs-bouichirou-yamato.122266/

(does this one count: https://vsbattles.com/threads/fight-for-5th-8-c.117550/ ?)
People have tried doing this before, but... anyway, waiting for the right people to comment here.

 

[RM97]

D's Acausality comes from the fact that he doesn't exist in the Akashic Records which records and governs all of Past, Present, and Future of all of Creation with the AR being stated to be proclamations of fate itself. If you don't exist in the records or erased by the records, you won't exist in reality in past, present, future and no one will remember you as if you never existed to begin with. This allows D to be unaffected by the records as seen when Kima, Valcua and Matthew failed to read or know about D or manipulate events about D (except for an event where Valcua forcefully wrote down a very specific scenario in the AR for D to follow, only for D to resist and go against it). Not to mention, D was completely unaffected and remembered everything when he rewrote the entire story or chain of events that happened in his hunt for Valcua using the AR making it so that he never appeared in the novel to lead Sue and Matthew to kill Valcua but rather only Sue and Matthew killed Valcua so they never met D nor remember him.

As for this match, time travel isn't going to work here because of his Acausality. I heard the Ichiban verse is losing 1-A stuffs but profiles say otherwise. So are there any passives for Bouichirou? If so, what are they and what level can they affect? If not, D's passive fear and paralysis hax would freeze Bouichirou while D would him cut down. Don't see anything going for Bouichirou to help him here unless his Subjective Reality is 1-A and passive.

 

[kuramamyfav68]

Idk how does the whole akashic records stuff work? Like, if being outside of the akashic records means he literally has no past, wouldn't he also not exist in the present since he in the present is not part of the akashic records either? It sounds somewhat contradictory and more like he evades the effect of a causality manip device.

D's Acausality comes from the fact that he doesn't exist in the Akashic Records which records and governs all of Past, Present, and Future of all of Creation with the AR being stated to be proclamations of fate itself. If you don't exist in the records or erased by the records, you won't exist in reality in past, present, future and no one will remember you as if you never existed to begin with. This allows D to be unaffected by the records as seen when Kima, Valcua and Matthew failed to read or know about D or manipulate events about D (except for an event where Valcua forcefully wrote down a very specific scenario in the AR for D to follow, only for D to resist and go against it). Not to mention, D was completely unaffected and remembered everything when he rewrote the entire story or chain of events that happened in his hunt for Valcua using the AR making it so that he never appeared in the novel to lead Sue and Matthew to kill Valcua but rather only Sue and Matthew killed Valcua so they never met D nor remember him.

As for this match, time travel isn't going to work here because of his Acausality. I heard the Ichiban verse is losing 1-A stuffs but profiles say otherwise. So are there any passives for Bouichirou? If so, what are they and what level can they affect? If not, D's passive fear and paralysis hax would freeze Bouichirou while D would him cut down. Don't see anything going for Bouichirou to help him here unless his Subjective Reality is 1-A and passive.

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[DontTalkDT]

D's Acausality comes from the fact that he doesn't exist in the Akashic Records which records and governs all of Past, Present, and Future of all of Creation with the AR being stated to be proclamations of fate itself. If you don't exist in the records or erased by the records, you won't exist in reality in past, present, future and no one will remember you as if you never existed to begin with. This allows D to be unaffected by the records as seen when Kima, Valcua and Matthew failed to read or know about D or manipulate events about D (except for an event where Valcua forcefully wrote down a very specific scenario in the AR for D to follow, only for D to resist and go against it). Not to mention, D was completely unaffected and remembered everything when he rewrote the entire story or chain of events that happened in his hunt for Valcua using the AR making it so that he never appeared in the novel to lead Sue and Matthew to kill Valcua but rather only Sue and Matthew killed Valcua so they never met D nor remember him.

Is that actually consistent? The way you describe it he should be incapable of ever interacting with any other character, as nobody remembers him nor does he actually exist in the present. How is D not incorporeal given those circumstances?

 

[kuramamyfav68]

He's a rather illogical entity (well, him plus the Sacred Ancestor)... it's one of those things I was arguing for in my crt. Pretty sure people can interact with him just fine in the novels/story, no? But could this potentially be type 5 acausality?

 

[RM97]

Is that actually consistent? The way you describe it he should be incapable of ever interacting with any other character, as nobody remembers him nor does he actually exist in the present. How is D not incorporeal given those circumstances?

It's consistently shown in the storyline in which it took place. Outside of that storyline, there's been no events in other novels that involve the AR or anything related to it.

As for your second part, it could be likely that D is unbound to all of Reality and thus not registered as part of the records. His father, the Sacred Ancestor (in his true form which is the Void), has all of the things which you mentioned and D is stated to be linked to him to the point that D does not require any conceptual aspects to survive as his power source is the Void itself. Ofc, the novel is ongoing so it's very likely that more explanation and stuffs will be given.

As for your Non-corporeal part, D can exist as a disembodied soul which is stated to simultaneously exist and not exist.

 

[kuramamyfav68]

It's consistently shown in the storyline in which it took place. Outside of that storyline, there's been no events in other novels that involve the AR or anything related to it.

As for your second part, it could be likely that D is unbound to all of Reality and thus not registered as part of the records. His father, the Sacred Ancestor (in his true form which is the Void), has all of the things which you mentioned and D is stated to be linked to him to the point that D does not require any conceptual aspects to survive as his power source is the Void itself. Ofc, the novel is ongoing so it's very likely that more explanation and stuffs will be given.

As for your Non-corporeal part, D can exist as a disembodied soul which is stated to simultaneously exist and not exist.

What about adding type 3 nep to D (https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Nonexistent_Physiology?so=search) ?

 

[RM97]

What about adding type 3 nep to D (https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Nonexistent_Physiology?so=search) ?

Yeah his Soul would qualify for nature 3 NEP.

 

[kuramamyfav68]

How does Bouichirou fight?

 

[Lightning_XXI]

I wanted to test this Yamato guy against D before, guess I wasn't fast enough

I agree with DT when it comes to him not really having advantages against D here and with what RM said

 

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