Our God Killer is going to be smurf

[RaveeCPN]

When I look at Athena's profile, in the context of what her HDE says, "She has evolved into the existential plane beyond the Greek World and beyond every being in the Greek World."

> Higher-Dimensional Existence (Because of her sacrifice to save Zeus, she had ascended to a higher level of existence[9] and gained higher power, having ascended to a higher plane than everyone else in the Greek World[17])

This means that she has evolved beyond the Greek world and the Primordials of the Greek world, which have "4D existence."

So, this means that Athena has 5D existence (This is also accepted in wiki) and PoH would have 5D haxes since he can damage her. And it is already accepted on the wiki that both PoH and the Sword of Olympus can damage her Ascended form

So, challenge me


Note:

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Agree: @Quintessence_PE, @Georredannea15, @LuffyRuffy46307, @LordGriffin1000, @KLOL506, @Eseseso

Disagree:

Neutral:

 

[Quintessence_PE]

PoH 5D made logical sense from the beginning, I agree

 

[Georredannea15]

Wow...I wasn't expecting that.

Anyway... That's something I've already defended, and I still don't hesitate to defend it.

 

[KLOL506]

I already agree the 5D stuff, but unfortunately, being HDE no longer guarantees smurfness (You actually need an attack of Low 1-C output to qualify as smurf apparently), and I believe @Planck69 was already planning to tackle this in another Athena related CRT where her Ascended key gets another tier.

Also this would scale to literally ******* no one but PoH Kratos. And at this point HDE is just becoming filler garbage the more I look at it.

Regardless, I will tag some more staff for this.

@LephyrTheRevanchist @Theglassman12 @Emirp sumitpo @Maverick_Zero_X @LordGriffin1000 @Elizhaa @DemonGodMitchAubin Your opinion on this would be appreciated.

 

[RaveeCPN]

(You actually need an attack of Low 1-C output to qualify as smurf apparently)

Then you can't be a smurf. What you said is only for physical AP and Durability. It has nothing to do with Hax. And I don't know if I need to say this, but I'm talking about Hax. Not physical AP or Durability.

For smurf hax, the dimensional existence you affect is important. Not Durability.

 

[KLOL506]

Then you can't be a Smurf. What you said is only for physical AP and Durability. It has nothing to do with Hax. And I don't know if I need to say this, but I'm talking about Hax. Not physical AP or Durability.

Yeah, at best this should just be 5D HDE shenanigans and 5D hax without the AP part. No smurfness AFAIK. @Planck69 might be able to elaborate on that front better.

 

[RaveeCPN]

Yeah, at best this should just be 5D HDE shenanigans and 5D hax without the AP part. No smurfness AFAIK.

That's what a smurf is.

Also, on the basis of what you have said, can I assume that you agree?

 

[Georredannea15]

Yeah, at best this should just be 5D HDE shenanigans and 5D hax without the AP part.

It's means smurf, 2-C AP and DURA, 5-D hax layers.

 

[Quintessence_PE]

it's actually quite funny, it makes me laugh when I see characters who are low1c with much less arguments than kratos.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I agree with that, I always wanted the verse to be treated as tier 1, because it really feels like it.

 

[RaveeCPN]

I agree with that, I always wanted the verse to be treated as tier 1, because it really feels like it.

This CRT won't upgrade Kratos to Tier 1. At least not physically. I'm just offering that his hax' should be 5D, that's all.

But thanks for your opinion

 

[Georredannea15]

I agree with that, I always wanted the verse to be treated as tier 1, because it really feels like it.

It's not tier 1, it's just tier 1 smurf. But this is also a reasonable basis.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

This CRT won't upgrade Kratos to Tier 1. At least not physically. I'm just offering that his hax' should be 5D, that's all.

But thanks for your opinion

Fair enough, I found the proposal quite interesting, you're welcome bro

 

[KLOL506]

This thread confuses me so much that I can no longer tell what the hell is smurf and what the hell isn't.

 

[RaveeCPN]

This thread confuses me so much that I can no longer tell what the hell is smurf and what the hell isn't.

What we call a smurf is the state of having a hax with a higher level than the AP keys you have.

For example, if a 7-A character has a 4-dimensional hax, this makes that character a smurf. Or if a L2-C character has a 2-A hax, etc.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

This thread confuses me so much that I can no longer tell what the hell is smurf and what the hell isn't.

Me neither, when I hear the name "smurf" it reminds me of that blue dwarf movie lol

 

[KLOL506]

What we call a smurf is the state of having a hax with a higher level than the AP keys you have.

For example, if a 7-A character has a 4-dimensional hax, this makes that character a smurf

Apparently people tell me that's not how smurfs work, they tell me it'd have to be something like "7-A with Low 1-C hax and AP"

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Since we accept the Greek world as 4-D, and Athena is accepted as above that (5-D Existence), then yes Power of Hope Kratos gains 5-D potency with his abilities since he can interact with her.

His attack power doesn't change.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Apparently people tell me that's not how smurfs work, they tell me it'd have to be something like "7-A with Low 1-C hax and AP"

A Smurf is a 3-D character having 4-D or above abilities.

Basically, any characters with power or an ability that is dimensionally higher than themselves.

 

[KLOL506]

A Smurf is a 3-D character having 4-D or above abilities.

Good to know.

 

[KLOL506]

@RaveeCPN You're using BB code, get out of BB code and you can bold the names properly.

 

[RaveeCPN]

@RaveeCPN You're using BB code, get out of BB code and you can bold the names properly.

Handled it, thx

And can I put your name on the Agree list?

 

[KLOL506]

Handled it, thx

And can I put your name on the Agree list?

Yes.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Apparently people tell me that's not how smurfs work, they tell me it'd have to be something like "7-A with Low 1-C hax and AP"

Lol no, what dumbass said that?

 

[Georredannea15]

Lol no, what dumbass said that?

You can be more kind and formal

 

[RaveeCPN]

You can be more kind and formal

STFU, don't derail my thread. I'm doing your job right here

 

[KLOL506]

Lol no, what dumbass said that?

Take a look for yourself.

 

[KLOL506]

You can be more kind and formal

Relax, Tony is with us LMAO

 

[Georredannea15]

STFU, don't derail my thread. I'm doing your job right here

All right boss, don't be mad.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Take a look for yourself.

Honestly you are at fault for listening to them and deserve as slap

 

[Ped2018]

Take a look for yourself.

3 L's

 

[KLOL506]

Honestly you are at fault for listening to them and deserve as slap

Maybe, who knows LMAO

 

[KLOL506]

All right boss, don't be mad.

I think he was being sarcastic.

 

[Eseseso]

Agree

 

[KLOL506]

Also, I would like to point out that "Inaccessible" just doesn't exist on the wiki. Just axe that part out.

 

[RaveeCPN]

Also, I would like to point out that "Inaccessible" just doesn't exist on the wiki. Just axe that part out.

All previous abilities on 6-D possibly 7-D with unquantifiable layers above baseline

This is exist but inaccessible layers don't? Seriously? Also wiki cannot assume a specific number of layers anyway. It should be however the author defines it in the series.

But I guess 5D will be accepted, so I can remove that

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Anyways you need to prove Athena is 5D to scale PoH to 5D which I don't think you guys have

 

[RaveeCPN]

Anyways you need to prove Athena is 5D to scale PoH to 5D which I don't think you guys have

I don't need to prove again what is already accepted. You just need to read the OP

But I'll quote it just in case;

So, this means that Athena has 5D existence (This is also accepted in wiki)

 

[Georredannea15]

Anyways you need to prove Athena is 5D to scale PoH to 5D which I don't think you guys have

Athena's HDE comes as she evolved higher dimensional plane of existence than primordials and greek world that have 4-D existence. For this, the CRT was already opened and it says in the profile. There is no need for extra effort to prove something that is in profile.

 

[KLOL506]

Anyways you need to prove Athena is 5D

Was already accepted in the General CRT 2 part. This CRT would actually put the "5-D" nomenclature onto Athena's profile.

Which also means she'd get a brand-spanking-new key for her Ascended self.