- 10,285
- 2,761
Bowser FRA
-
This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.
For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here. -
We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.
Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.
Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page. -
Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
Kirby vs Bowser for some reason
- Thread starter Phoenks
- Start date
GlaceonGamez471
He/Him- 2,692
- 1,266
Bowser FRA
- 42,743
- 36,983
I think that's grace!
- 1,626
- 148
Bowser FRA like the layered sealing
- 42,743
- 36,983
Grace!
- 10,285
- 2,761
Taking back my vote if that’s the case
- 3,904
- 684
I literally answered Eficiente's question here^
- 42,743
- 36,983
And what proof is there that Kirby just uses DT to get out of sealing? Considering I'm 99% sure he has never been sealed before there is none.
- 15,441
- 5,031
This small realities should give him no problem as he can come back from a much more complex multiverse called Another Dimension, from deep within it, he once also went there to find something he was looking for on his own in seconds.
- 42,743
- 36,983
And yet kirbey has not been sealed before and you seem to not realize that Bowser can just seal the pink puffball in the freaking floor if he wants to, and said floor can tank attacks from Low 2-Cs and not break
Last edited:
- 3,904
- 684
I don't understand your first question. Phrase it better please.
Pretty sure Toads and co. use and are knowledgeable of the power stars since they're the very ones who note what bowser did and how he did it with the power stars.
- 17,364
- 12,842
prove it. they may know what he did but not how.
- 4,942
- 1,317
Grace is over
- 15,441
- 5,031
Everything's pretty incomplete due to a lack of focus, or other reasons.
If you trap someone in a rooftop and they were never trapped in a rooftop before but they can fly away then they can fly away. Sealing is just a term that leads to other things Kirby can deal with, it's pointless for you to keep saying it like that and not elaborate about it.
Not, you don't realize Kirby can just phase through it despite his ability to do so being in his profile and it having been pointed out already in the thread, it seems that you just want to be correct regardless of having the reasons for it given that hasty and wrong presumption. Those Low 2-Cs aren't using the full range of their tiers with their attacks, otherwise there should be waves going over the whole stage when they do any attack. Some characters can impale, dig and get through the stage in other ways anyway, that was all an incredibly bad argument.
My bad. How weak will Kirby be after being sealed? Because saying that his strength will be sapped does nothing to inform about how his regen won't just heal him and how he can't use any Copy Ability to heal himself.
That doesn't make any sense. Being "the very one" noting the type of power used for someone else to do what they do with their abilities doesn't mean one can do the same.
- 3,904
- 684
His strength being sapped isn't the issue, the issue is you directly need a higher layer of sealing or a resistance to bypass the seals placed.
The fact that power stars are a very known thing in the mushroom kingdom and everyone uses them in mario party games, along with knowing exactly what bowser did with them and how he did it? Yeah no, it's far more simple to assume they know how to do it, especially since Mario with DT can't break through the seals unless he has more power stars.
- 15,441
- 5,031
That is some wrong deduction of how things are, not how the powers work. You wouldn't need to tell me this if the profiles had proof of what they can do, you're in a comfortable position saying that while I needed to check if it's true via asking for evidence and seeing it. I did, and I disagree with you.
Power stars being known doesn't matter (ignoring how most beings with them don't use any of their powers anyway aside from an assumed boost in power). Using some of their powers doesn't mean people can use all the powers all beings have used with it, the sealing could have very well been from Bowser's magic and only possible due to him having the extra power of the power stars. It's not "far more simple to assume they know how to do it", that's a headcanon. Mario not being able to break through the seals matters as much as him being unable to break through bricks unless he has a super mushroom, or break through enemy fortresses, and is there any proof of him knowing where Peach is in the castle anyway?
Power stars being known doesn't matter (ignoring how most beings with them don't use any of their powers anyway aside from an assumed boost in power). Using some of their powers doesn't mean people can use all the powers all beings have used with it, the sealing could have very well been from Bowser's magic and only possible due to him having the extra power of the power stars. It's not "far more simple to assume they know how to do it", that's a headcanon. Mario not being able to break through the seals matters as much as him being unable to break through bricks unless he has a super mushroom, or break through enemy fortresses, and is there any proof of him knowing where Peach is in the castle anyway?
- 3,904
- 684
What are you talking about here? That's exactly how the power works, you need to overturn the seal in order to leave. You didn't even refute the point here.
I didn't say they can use all of their powers, I said they should very likely know the powers they openly acknowledge are used and how they're used. It's not via Bowser's magic since you see that directly the doors that are sealed are sealed by a power star count. That's not headcanon objectively. Your last part isn't a refute and your question is irrelevant since Peach isn't the topic of discussion nor the reason the sealing works as such. Stop trying to invent new arguments I didn't make.
- 42,743
- 36,983
Accusations! How mature!
Anyways like peace has been saying you kinda need power stars or resistance to sealing to get out of what Bowser is packing
Anyways like peace has been saying you kinda need power stars or resistance to sealing to get out of what Bowser is packing
- 15,441
- 5,031
You keep saying how you believe it's the only way to deal with the power, I have that much as a reference in your comment unless I feel like looking up in the comments above how there are 2 types of sealings going on here, both of which I already went over how Kirby can deal with and one of those being again covered in that comment you quoted, if you meant something else then you're not being clear and that gives me the reason on what I said above.
I didn't say that you say that they know all their powers, I use a generalization more fair than "they just so happen to know this 1 power", I didn't pick what they know and not know. Acknowledge a power being used and vaguely how it's used means nothing, anyone can see a power being used and explain what happened to other. Bowser could have used the power stars to create that power star count, or it was already there and his mastery over magic let him use it in a way that others can't/don't know how to.
It responds what you said.
You said that Mario can't break through the seals, you should have been more clear on what seals you meant because it now apparently Bowser will not use the sealing he used with Peach against Kirby? That's a new one. Peach was in another type of seal, it would seen that Mario couldn't break through it and so as part of it I brought up if he knew where she was, simple as that.
This is vague.
Twice the claims, 0 the evidence.
- 42,743
- 36,983
Shall I bring up a playthrough of Mario 64 for evidence? The reasons are a seal that Kirby has no real way to get past along with Bowser having the stamina advantage, regen Kirby can't bypass, and being a better fighter that Kirby can't bfr with the succ unless the miracle fruit comes out, but before Kirby does anything he is sealed.
and limitless stamina for ghost Kirby sounds weird honestly, health bars are game mechanics most of the time and continuing fighting sounds like only increased stamina not limitless, might crt that, but not during this fight.
and limitless stamina for ghost Kirby sounds weird honestly, health bars are game mechanics most of the time and continuing fighting sounds like only increased stamina not limitless, might crt that, but not during this fight.
- 15,441
- 5,031
Kirby can get past both forms of sealing, whichever of them you mean. Stamina is hardly a factor. That regen takes time and Kirby has defeated beings with a better and faster regen, Kirby's own regen is faster, if not in the same scale. Kirby seems to be the better fighter, if anything. Kirby's (Super) Inhale scales to his LS, so not only he can suck Bowser, the latter also may get crushed. You can do that CRT whenever you want, likewise I'll later make one for Bowser's regen.
- 42,743
- 36,983
I'll be fine with it, also this is as fine a time as any to ask what is the AP difference?
- 42,743
- 36,983
Actually that is very far into one-shot territory in Kirby's favour, so if Kirby can get around sealing in-character (ie coming back to fight via Warp Star) its likely a stomp
- 17,364
- 12,842
to once again add to knowing=/= being able to use lemme bring this example.
I am fighting a mage. The mage powers himself up with an energy crystal and constructs magic, creating a fireball that burns my ass. I have an energy crystal, and i know that he used magic to burn my ass. But i can't use the same magic without knowing how to construct it or how to use fire magic, so all i truly know for a fact is that my ass is burning.
I am fighting a mage. The mage powers himself up with an energy crystal and constructs magic, creating a fireball that burns my ass. I have an energy crystal, and i know that he used magic to burn my ass. But i can't use the same magic without knowing how to construct it or how to use fire magic, so all i truly know for a fact is that my ass is burning.
- 42,743
- 36,983
This is likely a stomp, Bowser while he is likely more skilled, is far too inconsistent to say he will use any hax outside of sealing(cause he has a power star, without one he is even more inconsistent) which from what you say an in-character Kirby gets around, and considering the pink puffball has a crushing AP advantage he can AP until Bowser finally dies.
