Kirby vs Alucard (Grace period)

[Eficiente]

Speed =

Kirby: 8 (EMagoIorSouI, Arceus0x, Kirby71, Niccokirby, Christian Higdon, The real cal howard, TitanCrusher101, TriforcePower1 )

Alucard: 7 (Veloxt1r0kore, Theglassman12, Dragonmasterxyz, Schnee One, PaChi2, Genericstickman, Xanxussama1010)

Inconclusive: 0

 

[Eficiente]

Quick-bump.

 

[EMagoIorSouI]

I'm unsure if any of their abilities will significantly effect one another, but Kirby may have the AP advantage.

 

[Eficiente]

Remembering the (4-A) feats Matt mentioned on the downgrade thread I can say that Kirby surely has the AP advantage. By a lot.

 

[DMUA]

Pretty sure they're both scaled to Starry Sky feats

 

[Eficiente]

Sphere Doomers' have Starry Sky feats, and those are mid-bosses, the top-tiers are more than a dozen times stronger than that, such as Magolor who manipulated a realm compound of the more than a dozen of places where the Sphere Doomers where doing their feats.

 

[EMagoIorSouI]

If that's the case, then I'll go with Kirby for now. He has the AP advantage and more variety of hax.

 

[Eficiente]

He only uses some of them IC but ok.

 

[Schnee_One]

Alucard casts a holy potion and Kirby dies

Alternatively he time stops and does whatever and Kirby dies

Meanwhile he resists like 90% of the stuff Kirby can do to him and is more then capable of simply sealing Kirby away to beat his Regenerationn if necessary

 

[Eficiente]

Pointing out Kirby's resistance to time stop (mentioned in his profile as "Can move in stop time").

How good are his resistances to transmutation, BFR and morality hax?

 

[Genericstickman]

Doesn't Alucard have Mid-Godly scaling from other monsters

 

[Genericstickman]

Also that soul manipulation seems to be a good counter to Kirby's Low-Godly

 

[Eficiente]

Doesn't Alucard have Mid-Godly scaling from other monsters

I "believe" this (I'm really forced to use this word) but can someone elaborate on how a holy potion would one-shot Kirby?

Going the description in his profile the soul hax seems like something Kirby's soul can prevent by.. flying in the opposite direction, which it can do and more, so that needs an elavoration too. Non-Physical Interaction is enough to kill Ghost Kirby tho, Alucard's profile implies to have that but doesn't have it, for some reason.

 

[Schnee_One]

Pointing out Kirby's resistance to time stop (mentioned in his profile as "Can move in stop time").

How good are his resistances to transmutation, BFR and morality hax?

Alucard's timestop effects timeless people

BFR is okay as he can open a portal and leave

Course he usually does sealing

 

[Eficiente]

What timeless people? (Just to get informed)

Well, just being in the stomach dimension transmutes, and allows Kirby to use move and fuse the things there, so that may be an inconvenience. Or not.

How is the variation of sealing? It's usually Status Effect Inducement+Mind Manipulation/Statistics Reduction. Know how is composed of and how powerful it is is know if Kirby can resist it.

Also, again, how good are his resistances to transmutation and morality hax?

 

[Schnee_One]

No sealing is forcing the character in another dimension, that's how he dealt with Dracula

The Fish IIRC, as well as Chaos

Does he have them on his page?

 

[Eficiente]

No sealing is forcing the character in another dimension

What do you mean with forcing?

I thought in Chaos but his profile doesn't have infinite speed or resistance to time manip, I will have to also believe that he is timeless, I guess.

Idk how does his profile elaborates on the degree of the resistances but let me change that to: Is his mindhax resistance multi-planetary and is his transmutation resistance like, many things at once?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Not gonna vote because I'll be damned if I get Matt to respond to this via contributing, but how's a holy potion gonna do anything here?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Alucard's timestop effects timeless people

...No, it doesen't. Literally, no one in Castlevania has infinite speed, let alone immeasurable.

 

[DMUA]

There are random fish who are immeasurable due to needing timestop to actually see them I believe

Self evidently they don't actually get frozen in time though

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

That sounds infinite

 

[DMUA]

I dunno I'm not a guy for Castlevania shenanigans

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Also, why does this battle have to come down to hax? Other than Kirby's inhale and friend hearts, I doubt either lead with stupid techniques.

 

[Bruhtelho]

am going to vote for kirby

 

[Schnee_One]

What do you mean with forcing?

I thought in Chaos but his profile doesn't have infinite speed or .....resistance to time manip,....... I will have to also believe that he is timeless, I guess.

Idk how does his profile elaborates on the degree of the resistances but let me change that to: Is his mindhax resistance multi-planetary and is his transmutation resistance like, many things at once?

If he doesn't have resistance I need to change that.

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Kirby FRA

 

[Arceus0x]

kirby FRA

 

[Schnee_One]

Still, Kirby FRA

 

[Theglassman12]

How is Kirby winning this again? Alucard resists a good chunk of Kirby's abilities and can either outrun or teleport away from Kirby's inhale ability.

 

[TitanCrusher101]

Can't outrun if speed is equal.

 

[Genericstickman]

Also maybe having Mid-Godly regen scaling to other monsters maybe

 

[TitanCrusher101]

How is Kirby winning this again? Alucard resists a good chunk of Kirby's abilities and can either outrun or teleport away from Kirby's inhale ability.

I doubt he could do anything if Kirby just HyperNova'd him.

 

[Eficiente]

How is Kirby winning this again? Alucard resists a good chunk of Kirby's abilities and can either outrun or teleport away from Kirby's inhale ability.

Battle may not come down to hax, Alucard resistances don't seem to be in the same level as Kirby's hax (Multiplanetary Morality Manip and "many things at once" Transmutation), and idk how would he outrun something that lifts you off the ground.

@TitanCrusher He doesn't have/will not use that here.

 

[Theglassman12]

@Titan Speed equal doesn't negate abilities that are meant to enhance your speed.

you mean the thing that erases stuff, which he resists?

 

[TitanCrusher101]

@TitanCrusher He doesn't have/will not use that here.

He should still win without it.

 

[Theglassman12]

@Eficiente So is there a scaling chain for Kirby?

 

[Eficiente]

Efiente

..This one is new.

 

[Theglassman12]

lol, sorry XP

 

[TitanCrusher101]

lmao

 

[Eficiente]

Anyway, if you mean in AP, yes, a big one. This would be a remarkable thing: Look the AP and Note in the profile of this mid-boss.