Kingprotea vs. Madoka Kaname

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Okay, the fight takes place somewhere in the Fate universe. Fujimura and Tohsaka are not around. The others are free to die. Kingprotea starts out as big as a planet, and Madoka isn't allowed to grow stronger than Universe level. Both are fully serious about winning.

Kingprotea:

Madoka: 1

Standard Battle Assumptions



This is Ultimate Kriemhild Gretchen Madoka. Speed is equalized. Who wins?

 

[Kaltias]

>The others are free to die

Iirc Gretchen was "just" going to become galaxy sized (With 2-A AP though)

Also Gretchen takes this via Death manip, mind manip and sheer versatility. Kingprotea can BFR her, but that's about it

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Hmm, I should probably restrict Kingprotea from growing bigger than a galaxy then.

 

[Kaltias]

No, because in that case she would be 3-C to Madoka's 3-A. Just limit Madoka to top at Universe level

 

[Kaltias]

Now that I think about it, how fast can Kingprotea grow? Gretchen grows very fast

 

[Reppuzan]

@Kaltias

Kingprotea grows at a rate that's slightly slower than the expansion of the universe.

However, it should be noted that her intelligence dulls the larger she grows.

 

[Kaltias]

Gretchen is likely almost mindless, so intelligence isn't really that much of a issue

 

[Reppuzan]

@Kaltias

How is Gretchen's resistance to curses? Anyone in Kingprotea's proximity will be affected by the age reversion curse BB placed upon her, reverting them back to a child as well as removing any powers they did not have up to that point in their age.

 

[Kaltias]

I don't think that she has a particular resistance (outside of the fact of being a living curse herself) but she is like 2 minutes old, so idk if a curse that turns someone into a child would work

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

>The others are free to die

Hmm, why did you say this?

 

[Kaltias]

You are the one who wrote it in the OP

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Yeah. What I mean is, why did you repeat it and add '>'?

 

[Kaltias]

It was just that it felt a bit strange to read. Nothing more

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Okay, it was just a joke because the guys I mentioned are my favorites.

 

[Kaltias]

Bump

 

[Kaltias]

Bump

 

[Kaltias]

Bump

 

[Kaltias]

Bump

 

[ThisIsMySwagPack]

Which one grows faster?

 

[Kaltias]

Idk how fast the universe grows D:

Gretchen went from comet sized to having Earth-sized hands in more or less a second tho

 

[ThisIsMySwagPack]

If I remember my physics lessons correctly, universe expands faster than light. Kingprotea grows slightly below that speed, so Speed of Light, I guess.

 

[Kaltias]

Kingprotea 2 fast.

How good is her resistance to mind and death manipulation though? Especially the former because witches lead with that

 

[Kaltias]

Wait, now that I think about it, the death manipulation is a passive chance with every attack. So that's important too

 

[ThisIsMySwagPack]

I'm not sure. BB can't really control her and Kingprotea has essence of Earth Mother Goddess in her. No solid feats, I'm afraid.