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KILLING FTL+ ONEPIECE

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There are really two possible outcomes for this thread I see. Either one, Luffy is accepted as being 3x faster than kizaru’s combat speed and 40x his movement speed, kizaru no longer scales to luffy, and the calcs stay. Or two, kizaru is accepted as scaling to luffy, and the calcs are removed.
 
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There are really two possible outcomes for this thread I see. Either one, Luffy is accepted as being 3x faster than kizaru’s combat speed and 40x his movement speed, kizaru no longer scales to luffy, and the calcs stay. Or two, kizaru is accepted as scaling to luffy, and the calcs are removed.
This thread is about removing a calculation, it's not proposing anything else

Kizaru himself scaling to luffy does not remove the calculation, as I've already said... his own speed is different to his fruit speed...

Either way, the calculation does not get removed based on what's presented on this thread
 
I remember Kizaru only being surprised of Sanji's speed, saying he went faster than light and Sanji answering he used the power of love. So PoL Sanji is the fastest One Piece character
 
I remember Kizaru only being surprised of Sanji's speed, saying he went faster than light and Sanji answering he used the power of love. So PoL Sanji is the fastest One Piece character
Kizaru wasn't surprised by Sanji's speed but by him kicking one of Kizaru's light attacks apart.
 
This thread is about removing a calculation, it's not proposing anything else
But a part of the argument your argument against the thread is that kizaru is not relative to luffy in speed, which is one of the arguments the op presents for the calcs not being valid.
 
But a part of the argument your argument against the thread is that kizaru is not relative to luffy in speed, which is one of the arguments the op presents for the calcs not being valid.
He isn't but even if he was... Using Kizaru's base speed as an argument to remove the calculation isn't valid... His base speed being different than his fruit speed

Me going against the argument that Luffy ~ Kizaru does not mean that if Luffy was ~ Kizaru, it would mean that the calculation is invalid... Already said it here
 
Also this is a Calc group thread, so people who aren't a calc mod or have something important to add, you aren't supposed to be commenting here
 
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