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Kharn vs Wisemon
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What's Kharn's AP?
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"Top 10 Questions Science Can't Answer"Dragonmasterxyz said:
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I ask because, that's literally what's important here. Wisemon's haxes are useless. Dunno why you sent an obvious mage-like fighter against an obvious berserker. This is like sending a haxless Alakazam against a Haxorus.
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His Durability is listed somewhere in the Gigafoe according to some people but his actual AP is somewhat above Baseline
Tho Gorechild takes care of the AP difference
Tho Gorechild takes care of the AP difference
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>Gigafoe
Wisemon can't even hope to even harm him in any way, shape or form. Especially seeing as Wisemon is not a power fighter.
Wisemon can't even hope to even harm him in any way, shape or form. Especially seeing as Wisemon is not a power fighter.
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To be fair depending on the time period taking those gigafoe hits either nearly killed him (the important part being that he survived being beat down for a while despite Angron instantly killing everyone else) or being very taxing on him and not something he can keep up forever (blocking a few strikes from Abaddon, with the last one exhausting him. Abaddon would have doubtlessly won if Khorne didn't stop the fight, but Kharn here was clearly far stronger than his pre Hersey self that survived Angron). What's wisemon's AP?
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Matt says it's not gigafoe, Azzy says it is. It's a massive conundrum.
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Wisemon is 8.14 KiloFoe, if not lower seeing as he's not the type of Digimon to walk up and brute force his way to victory.
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It's far higher than his AP regardless, but it's not like he can take clean hits from primarchs and just he totally fine as if it was something more at his level. He just has the capacity to survive heing hit that hard, and in the case of his fight with Abaddon not having his arms obliterated by blocking Drach. Gorechild's durability negation should take care of issues there though. Kneecapped Abaddon with it once.
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I remembered Hulk vs Kharn needs to be added
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Okay
But uh
Why?
But uh
Why?
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Aight
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Only Digimon that can so much as get an inconclusive due to these stipulations is RaijinLudomon. And that's assuming the concept of a passive barrier is not nulled by Khorne.
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Well even then, Raijin has Galaxy level Durability.
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Kharn lost to Supes and tied with Goku, even before the Cell upgrade. Digimon can stand a chance.
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Dura negation and soul consumption, though if he had AP to match that would be totally fine to Khorne. It's ok for Kharn to lose if his opponent is just better than he is, it's just not ok for him to lose to cheese basically.
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ABC logic at it's finest. Also didn't Goku's tie get removed due to the durability thing?
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From what I heard, that Axe doesn't steal your soul unless it kills you.Wokistan said:
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Wasn't Goku losing the rematch? Until it got derailed and turned into a discussion about what AP Kharn should have. I don't know anything about the Supes fight tho.
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What is defined as "cheese" here? For someone who knows nothing about Warhammer, these are things that need to be answered.
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AP is fine, Skill is fine, projectiles not used to snipe and actually used in conjunction with real fighting is fine, other stuff like haxxy instakill abilities are not, and Khorne hates magic in general.
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The soul stealing axe has to get a blow that would normally kill something, functioning as an anti Regen/rez type deal. He doesn't just nick someone with the blade and consume their soul.
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Digimon "Magic" is not magic in the traditional sense, it's simply programming language. Would something like say Pandora Dialogue be nulled here.
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So with Kharn it usual boils down to a stright u fight do to his powernull and with 10,000 years of fighting experiance hes a great fighter, so what can Wisemon do?
(Late to this fight)
(Late to this fight)
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I have no idea what that is but if it's not something like a stat amp or regular martial combat then probably. Khorne's not going to be like "oh it's technically not magic so have fun Kharn".
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Well, this go back to my original point. Wisemon cannot do anything here.
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If wisemon cant do anything isnt this a stomp then?
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Yes
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To summarize.
Pandora Dialogue - Can't use it.
Eternal Nirvana - Can't use it.
Chrono Breaker - Can't use it.
Trickster - Can't use it.
Magic Game - With a name like that what do you think?
Thundercloud - Still counted as Magic in Digimon. Can't use it.
Need I go on?
Dark Song - Can't use it.
Night of Fire - Does nothing
Night of Ice - Does nothing.
Summon - Either does not damage, nulled or does no damage.
Wisemon doesn't have a snowball's chance in Hell here.
Let's have Ganon fight him. If Goku can tie and Supes can win, The Legend of Zelda has a chance.
Pandora Dialogue - Can't use it.
Eternal Nirvana - Can't use it.
Chrono Breaker - Can't use it.
Trickster - Can't use it.
Magic Game - With a name like that what do you think?
Thundercloud - Still counted as Magic in Digimon. Can't use it.
Need I go on?
Dark Song - Can't use it.
Night of Fire - Does nothing
Night of Ice - Does nothing.
Summon - Either does not damage, nulled or does no damage.
Wisemon doesn't have a snowball's chance in Hell here.
Let's have Ganon fight him. If Goku can tie and Supes can win, The Legend of Zelda has a chance.
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BTW @Cal
Crusadormon fought him at 4B a long time ago
Crusadormon fought him at 4B a long time ago
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Plus the argument involing Kharns lose to Supes and tie to Goku is a bit flawed do to the fact that goku is a fighting genius and superman realies on physical powers, neither heavily realie on hax/magic/projectiles.
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