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Oh interesting, so you already knew about the scans and were just wasting everyone’s time then by saying it wasn’t there.
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Keysword Resistance Negation?
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Kirbonic_Pikmin
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Yeah, thanks for at least sending something but this isn't resistance negg
So unless there's something else for it's case... resistance negg just, doesn't exist for the Keysword?
So unless there's something else for it's case... resistance negg just, doesn't exist for the Keysword?
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Probably not, we’ll fix that later. Might be a remnant of before where everyone (as in multiple verses) was getting resistance negation for just more layers.
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Resistance Negation (With Time Power given from Time Power Unleashed Chronoa, True Form Tokitoki and Demigra, the sword gained the ability to negate the resistances toward its power and abilities[4]).
Again read the page Green sent with this context
Start from this point ^
Again read the page Green sent with this context
Resistances
Possessing Time Power also grant its users the resistances toward its power and abilities, make them resists the effects of comparable or weaker Time Power that target them, which includes these following abilities:Start from this point ^
Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara
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Let me break this down as simply as I can. There are two claims for the Keysword having resistance negation. This:
Resistance Negation (With Time Power given from Time Power Unleashed Chronoa, True Form Tokitoki and Demigra, the sword gained the ability to negate the resistances toward its power and abilities[4]).
and this:
Time Power user can nullify comparable or weaker Time Power[2] and negate the resistance toward its effects[1] due to possessing stronger[19] Time Power
The latter is just layered hax, and not resistance negation. Now the former could work... but a scan of that claim has not been provided. The only reference is for the entire game the supposed feat is from, and I shouldn't have to explain why that isn't easily accessible.
TL;DR: One justification is invalid, the other lacks a scan. And considering Vietthai started this thread by saying the resistance neg was from time power, I'm starting to think the latter justification is the only one, meaning it'll have to be removed.
Resistance Negation (With Time Power given from Time Power Unleashed Chronoa, True Form Tokitoki and Demigra, the sword gained the ability to negate the resistances toward its power and abilities[4]).
and this:
Time Power user can nullify comparable or weaker Time Power[2] and negate the resistance toward its effects[1] due to possessing stronger[19] Time Power
The latter is just layered hax, and not resistance negation. Now the former could work... but a scan of that claim has not been provided. The only reference is for the entire game the supposed feat is from, and I shouldn't have to explain why that isn't easily accessible.
TL;DR: One justification is invalid, the other lacks a scan. And considering Vietthai started this thread by saying the resistance neg was from time power, I'm starting to think the latter justification is the only one, meaning it'll have to be removed.
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Are the pages still not properly sourced?
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Well some of the sources say “dragon ball heroes card abilities” so I guess u can say that
Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara
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Apparently not.
Again, that's layered hax, not resistance negation. By the way, I can't take the resistance to resistance negation seriously when it's yet another untranslated scan.
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Anyways this started as an actual question but now I do think probability manip/resistance neg should be removed :v
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Another Q&A disguised CRT????. But anyway that Resistance Neg will be removed soon, after the current ongoing thread conclude. And card abilities will be cover in an explanation blog, we current doing it, but kinda get stopped due to the current thread
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Ah, alright then. That's good to know.
Also, this wasn't an attempt to disguise a CRT as anything, I genuinely wanted to know the sources for some of this stuff before realizing it was less valid than I thought. I still maintain the probability hax aren't a thing, though.
Also, this wasn't an attempt to disguise a CRT as anything, I genuinely wanted to know the sources for some of this stuff before realizing it was less valid than I thought. I still maintain the probability hax aren't a thing, though.
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Damn, can't someone just translate what's on the card then upload it on Imgur? Also, those complaining about untranslated stuffs, just get yourself deepl
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In that case, it should be removed along with resistance negation since it's just layered hax.
On that note, what kind of statement would actually qualify for resistance negation?
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Kirbonic_Pikmin
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It's still an extra step of work visitors of the site shouldn't have to take to get necessary info. Profiles should have translated scans always, especially for verses that are largely locked behind a language barrier.
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Probability hax come from two abilities Change Impact and Miracle Perfect
Change Impact increases the chance of your moves, make the attack more likely to hit or you likely to dodge, block incoming attacks
Miracle Perfect is a busted Change Impact, when active it allow your moves to have 100% chance of success, attacking, dodging or blocking
Those are common abilities
Anyway that the gist of it, which will be explained in a blog. Since there is like 3 peoples doing things for the verse and all of us busy with real life job, the blog is current is just over 50% complete
Change Impact increases the chance of your moves, make the attack more likely to hit or you likely to dodge, block incoming attacks
Miracle Perfect is a busted Change Impact, when active it allow your moves to have 100% chance of success, attacking, dodging or blocking
Those are common abilities
Anyway that the gist of it, which will be explained in a blog. Since there is like 3 peoples doing things for the verse and all of us busy with real life job, the blog is current is just over 50% complete
Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara
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Well if that thread is happening any time in the next century, I'll just save my grievances for then.
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So are we just gonna wait on staff opinions for the removal of Reistance Negation, and then wait for that blog/CRT to release for anything probability manipulation related?
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Was gonna reply to that but im busy makin that bread
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Resistance Negation will be removed after the current ongoing CRT conclude. Probability will be cover in a coming soon blog which at worst is in December
Vietthai96
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Ah, now that i remember it, the reason Resistance Negation was put on Time Power is because anyone get Time Power also get the resistance toward its power, so when the power nullifies its own power it also nullifies its own resistance at the same time, it also seal away Power of Destruction of God of Destruction which grant EE resistance. Anyway that what i remember, can't put scan on because on phone
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Now its just power null
Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara
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Yeah but... why? Also, none of the scans I'm seeing on the time power page indicate it negates resistances too; I am 99% sure that being able to nullify a UES of some kind does not grant you the ability to negate resistances to the applications of that UES as well, unless there's further elaboration (which I haven't seen).
Vietthai96
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Can't put scan on right now because on phone
Resistance Negation is also power null, but aim at resistance instead
Kirbonic_Pikmin
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Yeah we, kind of need more evidence/scans at this point to be able to claim resistance negg....
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In this case, they're nulling an energy that is giving the resistance which isn't the same.
If you power null a healing spell does it mean you can neg natural regen?
Vietthai96
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Anyway i remember there is a scan about the power can aim specifically at its own resistance, but i need to find it
Braking
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the charge impact stuff you talkin bout make sense. but miracle perfects guarantees a successful attack. i dont think a guaranteed win is skill. pl
Do you see how much of an effect it had on the opponent? only a little. when you win a charge impact you can see the offensive side gets a successful effective attack. if you lose one its just only gonna be a little effective.
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