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Ken Kaneki VS Dio Brando
- Thread starter The_Foolish_Omniscient_Guy
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Oh so he did. My mistake then.
Ice thing isn't hard to get around. Kaneki is more than willing to damage his body to get out of an attack, and then he regenerates and starts throwing things.
Ice thing isn't hard to get around. Kaneki is more than willing to damage his body to get out of an attack, and then he regenerates and starts throwing things.
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Dio froze dire with just a moment. He overcome that via healing? Also Dio had an decent AP Advantage.
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So,Dio still win here?
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Kaneki prefers to attack with his Kagune. They're large enough that he would have enough time to pull them back once they start freezing. Then he just breaks them off and heals them back, and starts throwing things. It's also questionable if Vap Freeze would even work against Kagune, considering their unconventional biological composition.
And Kaneki > Arima >>>>> Eto, who is baseline City Block Level
And Kaneki > Arima >>>>> Eto, who is baseline City Block Level
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I see...
Well waiting for more input again,but now i siding with Kaneki here.
Well waiting for more input again,but now i siding with Kaneki here.
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However...
Regenerating from being burnt completely to ash would be Low-High Regenerationn, not High-Mid.
And there are very few ways that Kaneki can get around Low-High Regenerationn. In fact, his most viable method of killing Dio would be fighting him until the sun rises and disintegrates him. If we are assuming that can even happen, considering SBA.
Regenerating from being burnt completely to ash would be Low-High Regenerationn, not High-Mid.
And there are very few ways that Kaneki can get around Low-High Regenerationn. In fact, his most viable method of killing Dio would be fighting him until the sun rises and disintegrates him. If we are assuming that can even happen, considering SBA.
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Quick bump!!
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Man Dio as a head over baseline cityblock plus not just baselibe. Prime Dio>jobathan>>>Dio as a gead>>>Jonathan without hamon>60 ton.
Dio punches Ken once on the head or chest and he freezes entirely.
Dio punches Ken once on the head or chest and he freezes entirely.
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>Implying Kaneki's going to just stand there and let himself get hit
No, he's going to be jumping around the place dodging, as is his fighting style. I doubt Dio's ever going to get within striking range.
No, he's going to be jumping around the place dodging, as is his fighting style. I doubt Dio's ever going to get within striking range.
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He will when Dio himself fast and acrobatic and agile and is above him in ap just while dying.
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Phantom Blood Dio is really not that fast or agile. Certainly not in comparison to Kaneki
I'm still not even sure if Kanekeki can get past his Regenerationn though.
I'm still not even sure if Kanekeki can get past his Regenerationn though.
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He more agile over any human with jjba. Ultimate>Pillar men>DIO>non Dio beings. In all attributes. Also he did some odd fancy movement at times man. Not a problem man when Dio just effortlessly tears any opposing force within any distance between him and ken though.
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He's never shown such levels of agility. Strength and speed doesn't equal agility. Odd fancy movements aren't exactly displays of incredible agility.
You are putting far too much stock in AP differences.
You are putting far too much stock in AP differences.
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He explicitly outperforms all humans via every notion (joseph). AP difference? Man he freezes on contact and pulverized tier 8B plus fighterz with minimal effort.
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Unfortunetly Ken can't deal with ice manipulation.Dio takes it via regen, ice manipulation,mind control and laser beams.
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Except I've already stated how he can deal with ice manipulation. And laser beams are far too thin in AoE to do any lethal damage to him.
It's the regen that is the problem.
And J-Man, that's the thing that you don't get. "On Contact". That's not going to happen.
It's the regen that is the problem.
And J-Man, that's the thing that you don't get. "On Contact". That's not going to happen.
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Man ya think Dio who just over power and tear through would litterally not hit him at all over hour and hour of fighting?
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Kaneki would attack with his Kagune. The Kagune are large enough that Kaneki would have time to get back and regenerate when he sees them freezing on contact.
After that, he knows not to get hit, and uses his superior agility and maneuverability to avoid Dio's everything and throw things at him until daylight
After that, he knows not to get hit, and uses his superior agility and maneuverability to avoid Dio's everything and throw things at him until daylight
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Ya think he enduring over 12 hour of bloodlusted? Man.
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Uhhh yes. That's entirely possible for him.
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Highly doubtful man. Ya have a decent feat for ken? Link? Any?
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Let's see:
- Keeps fighting after being impaled through the torso by Amon's quinque (which is really wide, so it would be some significant damage).
- Keeps fighting despite Arima stabbing him all the way through his skull twice.
- Suvives being impaled by Serpent through the stomach and keeps fighting.
- Tanks Arima impaling him multiple times through the torso.
- Gets all his limbs chopped off, forces himself up with his Kagune anyway and keeps fighting.
- Doesn't need to eat regularly, and can survive for a month without food after eating a body.
- Ghouls can recover their strength and stamina instantly just with a small mouthful of human flesh or blood. Considering the location and the bloodlust, that won't be a problem for Kaneki.
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Yeah except he did all of this when fighting an opponent with even higher feats of stamina and higherbap?
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First 3 were against an opponent of higher AP
4th was superior or equal.
>Implying that an AP advantage has anything to do with stamina or Regenerationn.
Higher feats of stamina don't even matter seeing as all Kaneki needs is enough stamina to survive until dawn, at which point Dio runs away from the battlefield, or alternatively is kept on the battlefield and dies to the sunlight
4th was superior or equal.
>Implying that an AP advantage has anything to do with stamina or Regenerationn.
Higher feats of stamina don't even matter seeing as all Kaneki needs is enough stamina to survive until dawn, at which point Dio runs away from the battlefield, or alternatively is kept on the battlefield and dies to the sunlight
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Man DIO>Hamon amped JONATHAN>>>>>Dio HEAD>>>Jonathan except hamonless and DEAD>boat EXPLODING>KEN.(Auto doing the odd and all the capitalization my bad MAN).
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Again
Implying Dio's AP has anything to do with Kaneki's stamina.
Implying Dio would even be able to touch Kaneki with his superior agility and maneuverability.
Implying Dio's AP has anything to do with Kaneki's stamina.
Implying Dio would even be able to touch Kaneki with his superior agility and maneuverability.
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Yeah he would. Just walk and aim at him. Ya think he even able play keep away for over 12 hour man? Man he getting punched at least once.
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"Walk and aim at him"
Yeah, ok, that's going to work when Kaneki's jumping around the place from building to building like demon spiderman.
He could easily play keep away for that long, I don't understand why you find this so unbelievable.
"he getting punched at least once". Not if Dio can't get within striking range of anything but the Kagune.
Yeah, ok, that's going to work when Kaneki's jumping around the place from building to building like demon spiderman.
He could easily play keep away for that long, I don't understand why you find this so unbelievable.
"he getting punched at least once". Not if Dio can't get within striking range of anything but the Kagune.
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And Dio follow except Dio would have eye and throwing debree at him man Dio would just lop all limbs and head off.
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Dio isn't agile or maneverable enough to follow Kaneki when he's leaping between trees and buildings. Eye beams can't do any damage that Kaneki can't regenerate from, and are easily blocked or dodged. Same with debris.
Dio can' lop all limbs and head off if he can't get close enough.
Dio can' lop all limbs and head off if he can't get close enough.
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>Dio despite all his showings especially part three lacked an ability of jumping high and far and even among building or trees or anything of that sort.
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This is Part 1 Dio, not Part 3 Dio.
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Part three dio < part one dio.
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I'll be honest, I think Kaneki takes this for reasons already said above and for other reasons I'm too lazy to explain because its late.
Also, the Tokyo Ghoul profile's need major updates
Also, the Tokyo Ghoul profile's need major updates
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What Dio freezes him on just a moment of contact. Dio>>>>>him via stats and he had agility feats within part three which scale on him from part one.
Eye beams lop him and higher and healing.
Eye beams lop him and higher and healing.
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Part 3 Dio also agility that Part 1 Dio never did, so no, it is unreasonable to scale those. There is a clear difference between them.
Eye Beams are easily dodged and blocked.
Eye Beams are easily dodged and blocked.
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Dio for the reasons above.
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Part three dio litterally inferior and lacked body control.
Excluding high Dio feat or above all other feat backward scale.
>Eye Beams are easily dodged and blocked. >BLOCKED. Ya joking man.
Excluding high Dio feat or above all other feat backward scale.
>Eye Beams are easily dodged and blocked. >BLOCKED. Ya joking man.
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He had a completely different body in Part 3. You cannot argue that scales back to Part 1.
Easily dodged then.
This is inconclusive. Dio is going to touch Kaneki's kagune once at the start of the fight, then Kaneki's going to realise touching Dio is a bad idea.
After that, Dio's never going to touch Kaneki again, and Eye Beams can easily be regenerated from without any problems.
Plus Dio needs to run away and hide every time the sun comes up, so it's not like Kaneki won't be getting any rest.
Easily dodged then.
This is inconclusive. Dio is going to touch Kaneki's kagune once at the start of the fight, then Kaneki's going to realise touching Dio is a bad idea.
After that, Dio's never going to touch Kaneki again, and Eye Beams can easily be regenerated from without any problems.
Plus Dio needs to run away and hide every time the sun comes up, so it's not like Kaneki won't be getting any rest.
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