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Kaneki stomps, Sukuna can't hurt him and can't really counter the disease/poison hax.
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Sukuna vs Kaneki
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No, sukuna's domain name is different from other domain names. Normally, DA sees people who lack cursed energy (maki, toji) as objects, and DA's hit effect does not work.
However, the sukuna area affects and destroys everything in the area.
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i think sukuna wins now
because dismantle
because dismantle
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Is Sukuna in his True Form with all 20 Fingers?? And anything Restricted/Allowed? Best to add that in the Main message
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sukuna wins now right
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I will have to give this Win to Kaneki, AS OF THIS MESSAGE.
Sukuna (True Form): 2.07 Megatons with Divine Flame, slightly higher with Domain Expansion boosting stats
Kaneki (Dragon): 2.21 Megatons
For the Record, I am not that well versed in Tokyo Ghoul. So Please inform me of anything I have/said wrong.And don't go too hard on me.
I have NO CLUE where Kaneki's true body is within the Dragon, so I can't say anything about that.
With Dragon's AP and Durability surpassing even Sukuna's Divine Flame, Sukuna honestly has no real way of damaging Kaneki Dragon, along with its unfathomable size of 21 Kilometers, and it constantly growing (Assuming this is in a populated space, like Shibuya or Shinjuku). Malevolent Shrine only has a 200 Meter Radius, Divine Flame - Open has been calced with only vaporizing a 140 meter radius. Plus with Dragon massively upscaling from Ghouls who have Low-Mid regeneration, and it SEEMING nigh-instant, Malevolent Shrine's constant cutting and burning won't really do that much (at least in the long term). Only World Slash (which bypasses Durability through Space-Cutting) can do anything, but even that won't really amount to much, due to Dragon's size. The most range it can be given is Tens of Meters, given that Mahoraga slashed apart Gojo's arm and multiple buildings behind him, past a multi-laned street. And Sukuna using it on Hajime only appear Tens of Meters. Most of all, Sukuna has to Chant it along with Hand Signs, or impose himself a Binding Vow that sacrifices something in some way in order to achieve it.
Due to Tokyo Ghoul's not having any Emotional/Empathic supernatural energy systems. They do not have Cursed Energy via Verse Equalization.
Given that, Cursed Energy is Not lethal to it, as they are basically beyond Superhuman and their traits/features. Toji and Maki prove that strong enough individuals that are not sorcerers with Cursed Energy themselves, can handle Cursed Energy with no problem lickety-split.
Most of allSukuna has no way to combat the ROS. Especially with it being completely airborne, making it nigh-impossible to get away from, especially given time for more of it to be released. And ROS, not Just being poison, but it having Biology Manipulation completely affecting the Biological structure of its victims, specifically cancerous-like formations all over its body (Symptoms include Perception Degradation and Memory Loss), all stuff pertaining to the Brain as well, with any damage to the brain in JJK becoming incredibly risky. The Golems/minions Dragon summons when killed produce even more ROS at an accelerated pace upon death will just make the situation that much worse for Sukuna, essentially him just becoming a complete vegetable. And Reverse Cursed Technique at even the highest level can't remove that much toxins fast enough for problems to kick in.
Please inform me of anything that can help with this.
Sukuna (True Form): 2.07 Megatons with Divine Flame, slightly higher with Domain Expansion boosting stats
Kaneki (Dragon): 2.21 Megatons
For the Record, I am not that well versed in Tokyo Ghoul. So Please inform me of anything I have/said wrong.
I have NO CLUE where Kaneki's true body is within the Dragon, so I can't say anything about that.
With Dragon's AP and Durability surpassing even Sukuna's Divine Flame, Sukuna honestly has no real way of damaging Kaneki Dragon, along with its unfathomable size of 21 Kilometers, and it constantly growing (Assuming this is in a populated space, like Shibuya or Shinjuku). Malevolent Shrine only has a 200 Meter Radius, Divine Flame - Open has been calced with only vaporizing a 140 meter radius. Plus with Dragon massively upscaling from Ghouls who have Low-Mid regeneration, and it SEEMING nigh-instant, Malevolent Shrine's constant cutting and burning won't really do that much (at least in the long term). Only World Slash (which bypasses Durability through Space-Cutting) can do anything, but even that won't really amount to much, due to Dragon's size. The most range it can be given is Tens of Meters, given that Mahoraga slashed apart Gojo's arm and multiple buildings behind him, past a multi-laned street. And Sukuna using it on Hajime only appear Tens of Meters. Most of all, Sukuna has to Chant it along with Hand Signs, or impose himself a Binding Vow that sacrifices something in some way in order to achieve it.
Due to Tokyo Ghoul's not having any Emotional/Empathic supernatural energy systems. They do not have Cursed Energy via Verse Equalization.
Given that, Cursed Energy is Not lethal to it, as they are basically beyond Superhuman and their traits/features. Toji and Maki prove that strong enough individuals that are not sorcerers with Cursed Energy themselves, can handle Cursed Energy with no problem lickety-split.
Most of allSukuna has no way to combat the ROS. Especially with it being completely airborne, making it nigh-impossible to get away from, especially given time for more of it to be released. And ROS, not Just being poison, but it having Biology Manipulation completely affecting the Biological structure of its victims, specifically cancerous-like formations all over its body (Symptoms include Perception Degradation and Memory Loss), all stuff pertaining to the Brain as well, with any damage to the brain in JJK becoming incredibly risky. The Golems/minions Dragon summons when killed produce even more ROS at an accelerated pace upon death will just make the situation that much worse for Sukuna, essentially him just becoming a complete vegetable. And Reverse Cursed Technique at even the highest level can't remove that much toxins fast enough for problems to kick in.
Please inform me of anything that can help with this.
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kaneki cant see dismantle or cleave
if he cant see it i think he just loses coz layered invisbility
if he cant see it i think he just loses coz layered invisbility
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if he cant see it i think he just loses coz layered invisbility
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How does him not seeing it just make him lose? Especially when Cleave and Dismantle can't even harm him...
Dismantle scales to his Striking Strength, and Cleave only Varies up to his strongest attack Divine Flame (else that would've been shown/talked about in his AP section), which still is lower in AP/Dura than Dragon.
Dismantle scales to his Striking Strength, and Cleave only Varies up to his strongest attack Divine Flame (else that would've been shown/talked about in his AP section), which still is lower in AP/Dura than Dragon.
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Technically cleave is below the divine flame which honestly can only be used inside the domain so I have no idea why his AP says "x tons with divine flame, higher with domain" cause the flames can only be used in the domain so that's its max value
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"Both Low 7-B"
Sukuna is not Low 7-B, thats for one single move which he needs to build up to active
Sukuna is not Low 7-B, thats for one single move which he needs to build up to active
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Divine Flame does not have to be used in his Domain. Look at him using it against Jogo. He just has to use Cleave and Dismantle before using it. I think you mean he can't use it when he's "outnumbered" unless he is in a domain.
Sukuna would have to unleash Black Flash and THEN use Divine Flame (likely within his Domain Expansion for more power) to do ANY Meaningful damage to Kaneki, besides World Slash. Due to Black Flash giving a 120% Multiplier, giving him at least 2.484 Megatons of TNT. But as before, that won't amount to much due to Dragon's unfathomable size and Regeneration.
Either way, EZ vote for Kaneki
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The calc is for the divine flame when using domain expansion so he can't go higher than that except with bf maybe
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Just realized, yeah that was in Domain Expansion against Mahoraga.
