Kaneki vs Sasuke

[Foriaa]

I'm so confused, is this p2 or retrieval sasuke.

 

[NikHelton]

How if it doesn't destroy the entire thing?

It did. The Dragon Kagune attacked and pinned Kaneki down from all sides, and he destroyed them all.

Small remains are not unusual even with a powerful explosion

 

[Arkenis]

I'm so confused, is this p2 or retrieval sasuke.

retrieval

It did. The Dragon Kagune attacked and pinned Kaneki down from all sides, and he destroyed them all.

Small remains are not unusual even with a powerful explosion

It's not an explosion, it's a shockwave and it would've pushed everything out the way. Still Sasuke's wings can protect him or he can fly away.

 

[Foriaa]

Sasuke has no means of putting down Kaneki, even with CS2 Chidori, and if that hits, Kaneki's RE process will start. Sasuke is also going to have trouble keeping up with a dozen tentacles that can appear behind and below him, all while trying to not get damaged by Kaneki himself. Sasuke will likely get forced into using his CM, but even then, nothing in his arsenal matters here.

Kaneki brutally kills the child with better range, better regen, danmaku spam and insane RE. Matchup should lowkey be changed to P2 Sasuke and restrict shunshin and genjutsu

 

[Arkenis]

Kaneki brutally kills the child with better range, better regen, danmaku spam and insane RE. Matchup should lowkey be changed to P2 Sasuke and restrict shunshin and genjutsu

You can't restrict abilities like that but yeah pt2 Sasuke would be way better.

 

[NikHelton]

It's not an explosion, it's a shockwave

I didn't say it was an explosion. I said that the presence of remains does not exclude an omnidirectional shock wave, because remains can remain even in an explosion.

Still Sasuke's wings can protect him or he can fly away.

Shockwave completely destroyed the mechanisms of Dragon 7-A, so even if Sasuke blocks it, he will receive serious damage.

In order to dodge the attack at point-blank range, which instantly spreads 200 meters, you need to be many times faster than Kaneki. I know about Sasuke's speed amp, but it is not enough for such a gap.

Moreover, Kaneki's RE can cause him to surpass Sasuke in speed and kill him in one hit

 

[Foriaa]

You can't restrict abilities like that but yeah pt2 Sasuke would be way better.

Yea this matchup lowk shouldn't be done, Sasuke won't have the reserves to constantly amp his speed to dodge basic attacks from Kaneki. And if he does, he has nothing to kill him with. Kagune would stop the heat from fireball, and if it doesn't, he regen. Chidori doesn't have insane AOE, so whatever damage it does, regen.

And did I mention that if Kaneki takes any damage from this his RE process will activate letting him viciously blitz and one tap someone relative to him.

 

[Arkenis]

Yea this matchup lowk shouldn't be done, Sasuke won't have the reserves to constantly amp his speed to dodge basic attacks from Kaneki. And if he does, he has nothing to kill him with. Kagune would stop the heat from fireball, and if it doesn't, he regen. Chidori doesn't have insane AOE, so whatever damage it does, regen.

And did I mention that if Kaneki takes any damage from this his RE process will activate letting him viciously blitz and one tap someone relative to him.

vs Sasuke Retrieval Key

Change it to part 2 hebi Sasuke so this match can be fairer.

Edit: Actually idk, Taka doesn't have CS2 anymore so he gets stat checked quickly but FKS has stats higher and more hax to deal with Kaneki's regen while Hebi only has more stamina and more skill than part 1, this'll be the same match just Sasuke performs better. I'd say just pick FKS for this to be anything doable

 

[Arkenis]

alright

Read again

 

[Arkenis]

FKS uses genjutsu only for quick guard drops like he did against Danzo or Ay's guards so most it'll be is that unless he decides to do Tsukuyomi which I don't think he's done as of now.

 

[DavidTPPM]

Hebi Sasuke spams tf out of genjutsu

 

[Foriaa]

Neither matchups work, Hebi Sasuke abuses tf outta Genjutsu, and retrieval Sasuke gets turned to paste.

 

[Foriaa]

what about FKS

I pray you aren’t referring to Summit Sasuke…

 

[Foriaa]

yes but chidori and susanoo restricted

This Sasuke abuses the absolute fck outta Genjutsu and has summons. Sasuke vs Kaneki can not work bro

 

[Arkenis]

yes but chidori and susanoo restricted

Why? Kaneki has regen. And it'd just be 5x higher meanwhile Kaneki can get stronger from his 900megaton amount.

 

[Foriaa]

Sasuke wins via genjutsu

 

[DavidTPPM]

Yeah I'm afraid this match up won't really work because any key where it wouldn't be a stat stomp has Sasuke spamming genjutsu making it a hax stomp.

 

[Arkenis]

You know what I think I got a decent match for Kaneki

 

[NikHelton]

You know what I think I got a decent match for Kaneki

Please, not Kaneki vs Muzan

 

[Arkenis]

Please, not Kaneki vs Muzan

Billy Alfred

 

[NikHelton]

Billy Alfred

How will Kaneki kill a character who can dissolve from ashes and cause things to disintegrate with a touch?

 

[Arkenis]

How will Kaneki kill a character who can dissolve from ashes and cause things to disintegrate with a touch?

His regen can be weakened through burning, destroying the brain repeatedly and just general fatigue. That decon is in a later arc so we just use the first arc.

 

[NikHelton]

i give up

Why Hebi keys won't work?

 

[Arkenis]

Why Hebi keys won't work?

genjutsu

 

[NikHelton]

His regen can be weakened through burning, destroying the brain repeatedly and just general fatigue. That decon is in a later arc so we just use the first arc.

How absurd is Billy's analytical prediction? As I understand it, it is higher than Shen's, whose main strength is built around this. Given the caricature of the poem, it must be something crazy

 

[NikHelton]

genjutsu

Didn't you say he doesn't use it in that way? Okay, I guess I'm confused.

 

[Arkenis]

Didn't you say he doesn't use it in that way? Okay, I guess I'm confused.

I said for FKS he mainly used it for off guard mind hax. Hebi does as well but he will resort to it more like illusions and straight up fear haxxing. If I did, I forgot those moments.

 

[NikHelton]

I said for FKS he mainly used it for off guard mind hax. Hebi does as well but he will resort to it more like illusions and straight up fear haxxing. If I did, I forgot those moments.

Well, maybe it's better to wait for Naruto to update and put Kaneki against him

 

[Arkenis]

How absurd is Billy's analytical prediction? As I understand it, it is higher than Shen's, whose main strength is built around this. Given the caricature of the poem, it must be something crazy

Shen's a master martial artist in the world and still struggles with reading veterans like Andy. You can look at the small latter illustrated and see Andy's the most unpredictable one. Billy can fight Andy and often out smart him in their fight. I should've bunched it together, but his hearing would also tie into how he'd make predictions since it's good enough to display depth and height of dozens of people around the vicinity. I'd say any trajectorial changes by Kaneki's kagune would be seen or same with his regular movements from dozens of meters away.

 

[Arkenis]

Nico could probably be a cool match as well without Uma Ghost.

 

[NikHelton]

Shen's a master martial artist in the world and still struggles with reading veterans like Andy. You can look at the small latter illustrated and see Andy's the most unpredictable one. Billy can fight Andy and often out smart him in their fight. I should've bunched it together, but his hearing would also tie into how he'd make predictions since it's good enough to display depth and height of dozens of people around the vicinity. I'd say any trajectorial changes by Kaneki's kagune would be seen or same with his regular movements from dozens of meters away.

Will Kaneki be able to compete with him in skills?

 

[Arkenis]

Will Kaneki be able to compete with him in skills?

Probably. Billy's main way of fighting is his guns and unchange so Kaneki won't really have to participate in a skill debate. And I forget this a lot, but Billy has Unjustice as well so it may just become an incap or stomp. Nico's a better match tbh, he has less hax but still has ways of incapping. Also just comment on my wall if you're interested we're talking a dead thread now

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

I think we'd need Kaneki's skill feats first to see what Sasuke can do compared to them. We don't have much skill feats that represent his overall skill during part 1. Bare minimum he's able to accomplish tactics against Orochimaru and Zabuza, who are jonins with decades of experience. Statements portray his skill more like his talent being above his sharingan copying powers. So for example, he could copy Kaneki's movements, then create a better version.

Fodder to real characters

Kaneki FRA