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So with all the Kamen Rider revisions with Showa that have heavily impacted Heisei, I've still been bothered by how Wizard's Base Styles are stuck at High 8-C. The calc and feat isn't inapplicable for scaling or anything, but its far from his highest display of power. I figured I should cover this. I'll try to keep things as simple and explanatory as possible
So during the movie Kamen Rider Fourze the Movie: Everyone! Let's Feel The Universe!, which takes place during the Future in Hand Arc (for those who don't know what that is, its the final arc which goes from episode 33 to 48), Wizard makes his debut in which he stomps and defeats copies of Horoscopes that were just in the process of pressuring Fourze and Meteor at the same time (so much so that the two are on the ground, catching their breath). At this point in time, Fourze and Meteor are Multi-Solar System level, so this should scale Wizard to that value. Additionally, in Kamen Rider × Kamen Rider Wizard & Fourze: Movie War Ultimatum, we see Wizard and Fourze fighting alongside each other against the same kaijins.
So it seems pretty justifiable for Wizard to scale to 4-A as a result. But the latter movie I mentioned also suggests we should give Fourze a new key placedbetween his Future in Hand key and Heisei Generations FINAL key.
So here's the deal. GI85 excellently pointed out something out to me. I totally forgot that Toei officially has Movie War Ultimatum take place after Heisei Generations FINAL. This isn't too big of a deal. The scaling is the same, just a bit higher. This would also place the Movie War Ultimatum key after the Heisei Generations FINAL key
Later into the film, Wizard takes on his Flame Dragon Style while Fourze uses his Cosmic States to take on the three Akumaizers. Given both sides trade blows with each other, and Fourze is "Low Multiverse level" at this point, I would say its fair to place Dragon Styles and all of Wizard's following forms at the same rating. Following the victory over the Akumaizers, the two then have the face the Zaiderbeck, which Xatan uses as a last resort. Wizard enters Special Rush while Fourze enters Meteor Nadeshiko Fusion States, claiming he needs to lend their power. Ultimately, Wizard and Fourze heavily damage the Zaiderbeck and kill Xatan
To more easily encompass what I'm proposing, I'll present my proposed upgrade for Wizard's Base Styles and Dragon Styles keys as well as present what Fourze's Movie War Ultimatum key would look like
Wizard
Base Styles
Attack Potency: Multi-Solar System level (Stomped and destroyed four Horoscope copies that were pressuring late-series Fourze and Meteor in combat)
Dragon Styles
Attack Potency: Low Multiverse level (Dealt considerable damage to Xatan, who traded blows with Cosmic States Fourze during the events of Movie War Ultimatum)
The following forms for Wizard really just need rating changes. The reasonings are the same
Fourze
Movie War Ultimatum
Attack Potency: Low Multiverse level (Stronger than before), higher in Fusion States, far higher in Meteor Nadeshiko Fusion States (Alongside Special Rush Wizard, heavily damaged the Zaiderbeck, a warship that would not have been enough for either Riders' previous forms to adequately take on in combat)
Additionally, this would change the Gaim Riders' ratings all the way from base forms (not counting Tier 1 stuff of course). Again, the reasonings wouldn't change at all, just the ratings. So this impacts all of those guys too, changing them from "At least Low 2-C" to solid "2-C"
Thoughts?
So during the movie Kamen Rider Fourze the Movie: Everyone! Let's Feel The Universe!, which takes place during the Future in Hand Arc (for those who don't know what that is, its the final arc which goes from episode 33 to 48), Wizard makes his debut in which he stomps and defeats copies of Horoscopes that were just in the process of pressuring Fourze and Meteor at the same time (so much so that the two are on the ground, catching their breath). At this point in time, Fourze and Meteor are Multi-Solar System level, so this should scale Wizard to that value. Additionally, in Kamen Rider × Kamen Rider Wizard & Fourze: Movie War Ultimatum, we see Wizard and Fourze fighting alongside each other against the same kaijins.
So it seems pretty justifiable for Wizard to scale to 4-A as a result. But the latter movie I mentioned also suggests we should give Fourze a new key placed
So here's the deal. GI85 excellently pointed out something out to me. I totally forgot that Toei officially has Movie War Ultimatum take place after Heisei Generations FINAL. This isn't too big of a deal. The scaling is the same, just a bit higher. This would also place the Movie War Ultimatum key after the Heisei Generations FINAL key
Later into the film, Wizard takes on his Flame Dragon Style while Fourze uses his Cosmic States to take on the three Akumaizers. Given both sides trade blows with each other, and Fourze is "Low Multiverse level" at this point, I would say its fair to place Dragon Styles and all of Wizard's following forms at the same rating. Following the victory over the Akumaizers, the two then have the face the Zaiderbeck, which Xatan uses as a last resort. Wizard enters Special Rush while Fourze enters Meteor Nadeshiko Fusion States, claiming he needs to lend their power. Ultimately, Wizard and Fourze heavily damage the Zaiderbeck and kill Xatan
To more easily encompass what I'm proposing, I'll present my proposed upgrade for Wizard's Base Styles and Dragon Styles keys as well as present what Fourze's Movie War Ultimatum key would look like
Wizard
Base Styles
Attack Potency: Multi-Solar System level (Stomped and destroyed four Horoscope copies that were pressuring late-series Fourze and Meteor in combat)
Dragon Styles
Attack Potency: Low Multiverse level (Dealt considerable damage to Xatan, who traded blows with Cosmic States Fourze during the events of Movie War Ultimatum)
The following forms for Wizard really just need rating changes. The reasonings are the same
Fourze
Movie War Ultimatum
Attack Potency: Low Multiverse level (Stronger than before), higher in Fusion States, far higher in Meteor Nadeshiko Fusion States (Alongside Special Rush Wizard, heavily damaged the Zaiderbeck, a warship that would not have been enough for either Riders' previous forms to adequately take on in combat)
Additionally, this would change the Gaim Riders' ratings all the way from base forms (not counting Tier 1 stuff of course). Again, the reasonings wouldn't change at all, just the ratings. So this impacts all of those guys too, changing them from "At least Low 2-C" to solid "2-C"
Thoughts?
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