Kamen Rider Ex-Aid Note Revision

[Akreious]

So I was scrolling through profiles and saw this

"Note: Hyper Muteki power is "infinite invincibility", immune to all attacks and status effects, the only reason that he's been damaged and defeated in the series is due to that his enemies can bypass this invincibility."

This is in fact, false. Hyper Muteki has never taken damage in the series, period. Not once did Cronus hurt him and even Gemdeus Cronus, the final boss, did little more than knock him around.

Also the notion that Hyper Muteki was ever defeated is also false. The only times he "lost" was when he was merely tossed around- he was never knocked out of his transformation.

 

[Nicetoderp]

Agreed to this.

Even in Mighty Novel, Genm never even dare to let Emu fight in Hyper Muteki.

 

[MagiSinbad]

Reset did affect Hyper Muteki tho

so it's kinda false if we say Hyper Muteki was never defeated. If i have to make a tier list for Ex Aid haxes then it's gonna be like this

Save >>> Reset >>> Hyper Muteki >>> God Maximmum Gashat.

 

[Nicetoderp]

Mhh, true.

But there has never been actual power up in the series that break though Hyper Muteki invincibility itself. The best way to fight Muteki in series is to force Emu not to use it.

 

[LinkSlayerLvX]

Sound fine, with the fact his final form is the one who never knocked out from Transformation

 

[Kamen_Rider_Xross]

And the reset doesn't affect Muteki Gamer himself, but the Gashat. And doesn't even do that, but return time before the creation of the Gashat.

And Hyper Muteki takes damage ONE time during the Final Stage, were the main villain was a Hyper Muteki-Like Gamedeus.

 

[LinkSlayerLvX]

But someone has Ex-aid final stage source???

 

[Kamen_Rider_Xross]

https://www.facebook.com/KamenRiderTaisen/videos/922111054630664/

But it is raw

 

[Akreious]

Reset did affect Hyper Muteki tho
so it's kinda false if we say Hyper Muteki was never defeated. If i have to make a tier list for Ex Aid haxes then it's gonna be like this

Save >>> Reset >>> Hyper Muteki >>> God Maximmum Gashat.

But that's redundant as hell. Of course Haxes are going to bypass Invincibility to physical damage- that's the whole point of haxes. But the way the note is framed makes it seem like Hyper Muteki actually lost battles due to damage and more traditional abilities which is completely false.

Taking the note off the profile would change pretty much nothing in how we use Ex-Aid since people are going to end up asking about Hyper Muteki's Invincibility anyways.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

I agree with this, i've never seen Hyper Muteki's been damaged in traditional ways ever. Also, what @Kamen Rider Xross said, Reset affect the gashat while Emu's untransformed.

 

[Maskofthedragon]

"Hyper Muteki is a game where the main character has unparalleled strength, and is impervious to all kinds of attacks."
―Kuroto Da, explaining Hyper Muteki to Kamen Rider Cronus
Between this and Kuroto II preventing Emu from going into Hyper Muteki, shoudn't it have resistence to all hax that appears in Ex-aid?

 

[Nicetoderp]

I see no reason why it wouldnt have that.

 

[Akreious]

So proposed changes would be

- Resistances to every Hax in Ex-Aid (Creator of almost all the Ex-Aid powers claims that Hyper Muteki is truly invincible and impervious to all attacks, making it stand to reason that these abilities wouldn't work to defeat Hyper Muteki)

-Removal of the Note on the Profile (The only real hax that affected Hyper Muteki happened after Emu de-henshined and was therefore not in Hyper Muteki form and Emu has never taken physical damage in the show, making the note incorrect)

Is that right?

 

[Kamen_Rider_Xross]

Like i Say, it was Muteki Gamedeus that manage to deal Damage to Hyper Muteki. But it can be argue that it was a being Made of the Gamedeus Virus plus a Muteki Antibody.

 

[Akreious]

Like i Say, it was Muteki Gamedeus that manage to deal Damage to Hyper Muteki. But it can be argue that it was a being Made of the Gamedeus Virus plus a Muteki Antibody.

Gemdeus never dealt damage to Hyper Muteki though? Ever?

Every time Gemdeus smacked the heroes down, everyone's health went down and everyone was visibly tired; except Emu who simply stood back up with absolutely 0 problems.

Edit: Just watched the stageshow. Yeah, no Emu was just being smacked around a crap ton. Never once does he actually take damage and even if he did, it was because it was literally another person using Hyper Muteki.

 

[Kamen_Rider_Xross]

In the Final Stage (that to be honest You could Say it isn't canon, but it was we're that statement come from) Gamedeus creates a Kamen Rider with a combination of his Virus and a Antibody of Hyper Muteki, give it the ability to deal damage to a Rider in Muteki Mode.

Edit: during the fight, You can hear them being surprise about how Emu in Muteki Gamer receive damage and he ever get put out of his transformation.

 

[Akreious]

In the Final Stage (that to be honest You could Say it isn't canon, but it was we're that statement come from) Gamedeus creates a Kamen Rider with a combination of his Virus and a Antibody of Hyper Muteki, give it the ability to deal damage to a Rider in Muteki Mode.

Yeah he did. What you're missing though is that Gemdeus literally made his own Hyper Muteki; he was invincible to other people. What's important is that Hyper Muteki Ex-Aid managed to kill him even though he was without the Hyper Muteki Antibody, making it more likely that it takes Hyper Muteki to damage Hyper Muteki.

 

[Kamen_Rider_Xross]

Well, it takes Form of a Muteki Gamer but it was never Say that it has his powers. It STILL a Gamedeus Virus, that alone make him invencible for most of the Riders.

But this is beside the Main point. The Muteki Gamedeus Still manage to damage Emu Muteki Gamer, so that make that note should be Keep it.

 

[Akreious]

Well, it takes Form of a Muteki Gamer but it was never Say that it has his powers. It STILL a Gamedeus Virus, that alone make him invencible for most of the Riders.

I'm re-watching it. At around 19:20ish, Emu says "Òü¬ÒéôÒüºÒüáÒÇéÒéÇÒüªÒüìÒü»Òü×Òü½", "Why (did I take damage), I'm Invincible". Gemdeus in response says "ÒéÇÒüªÒüìÒü«ÒüíÒüïÒéëÒéÆÒüÅÒüƒÒüƒÒüå´╝ê´╝ƒ）ÒéÅÒÇüÒüèÒü¬ÒüÿÒüíÒüïÒéëÒéÆÒéÇÒüñÒüçÒéôÒéÇÒüªÒüì." That transcription is probably a BILLION percent incorrect since the audio isn't that great, but what I do know that is Gemdeus said "Onaji chikara wo (something) muteki". Onaji means "same", Chikara means "power/ability". From this, it's almost certain Gemdeus Muteki also has Muteki Power.

Well, it takes Form of a Muteki Gamer but it was never Say that it has his powers. It STILL a Gamedeus Virus, that alone make him invencible for most of the Riders.
But this is beside the Main point. The Muteki Gamedeus Still manage to damage Emu Muteki Gamer, so that make that note should be Keep it.

Literally you yourself said that the Stageshow is likely non-canon. Also the only time he's been damaged is via another Hyper Muteki user so no, the note is still incorrect even if you take the stageshow as canon.

 

[Kamen_Rider_Xross]

Ok then

 

[Kamen_Rider_Xross]

I found a link to a Subbed Final Stage!

https://mega.nz/#F!aM9FjATZ!rS7b1aNeie3nvT9l7hmpXA and it include the script

 

[Jamesthetaker]

This should be good enough to added.

 

[Maskofthedragon]

So proposed changes would be
- Resistances to every Hax in Ex-Aid (Creator of almost all the Ex-Aid powers claims that Hyper Muteki is truly invincible and impervious to all attacks, making it stand to reason that these abilities wouldn't work to defeat Hyper Muteki)

We will need a page listing every hax used by a Gashast/Bugster/Energy Item to keep track of it easily

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Not really, just linked the page to Game Area or characters.