Kain VS Amon

[EliminatorVenom]

Kai

VS

Amo

RULES:

1. Kain is allowed to use all states of Chaos Dot.

2. This is Post Sathe Storyline Amon.

3. No prep time or outside help.


WHO WINS?!

Preferably, state difficulty and reasons.


Kain vs Amon

Kain
0

Amon
2

Draw
0


The poll was created at 18:27 on August 9, 2015, and so far 2 people voted.
Please wait, submitting your vote...

 

[Abbadon_the_Chaos_King]

Hmm this is interesting, I would think though that Chaos Method would not work against him since he is Supernaturally based, which is beyond normal logic. what do you think?

 

[SchutzenDunkelZiel1217]

Both of their stats are relatively equal. Kain has a more descriptive power and skill set but Amon has superior speed so he would win more often than not.

Also logic applies to literally everything besides Omnipotence....

 

[Abbadon_the_Chaos_King]

Both of their stats are relatively equal. Kain has a more descriptive power and skill set but Amon has superior speed so he would win more often than not.
Also logic applies to literally everything besides Omnipotence....

Logic is described as valid reasoning, things like Ghosts, spirits, magic, etc... arent really explainable through scientific logic and things that can naturally happen.

 

[SchutzenDunkelZiel1217]

Logic is simply the reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity.

It applies to everything. Things like Ghosts and Spirits can't be explained Scientifically but that doesn't mean logic doesn't apply to them as far as we know...

 

[Abbadon_the_Chaos_King]

Well thats the problem, Ghosts themslelvs are so far un-explainable therefor they are beyond valid reasoning I.E logic, also supernatural is explained as such.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/supernatural

 

[EliminatorVenom]

@Abbadon

Logic would apply to powers/situations where any explanation is necessary, whatever it is scientifically or supernatural. With that, for example, he could make fire burn in water, make intangible being hittable... The simple logic of "Ghosts are intangible" or "Fire elementals are immune to fire" is simply nullified.

 

[SchutzenDunkelZiel1217]

@ Abbadon: Simply view it as this. All logical concepts which apply to humans may not apply to ghost. But logic would still apply to them.

Simply put. Can a ghost die if something which can kill him, upon impact with the ghost, hits him.

If the answer is yes then logic applies to ghosts....

 

[Abbadon_the_Chaos_King]

Logic is anything with valid reasoning though, key word Valid, if something has no valid and usable explination behind then it is illogical. Supernatural is defined as being unexplianable by science or nature, therefor something like ghosts which have no scientifically valid reasoning are beyond logic.

 

[SchutzenDunkelZiel1217]

No they're not and simply because they are unexplainable (for now) with our science and nature doesn't mean they exist beyond logic.

And simply answer my question in my previous post...

 

[Abbadon_the_Chaos_King]

Its not that easy, if that were the case then something like "can an omnipotent entity have its powers taken away by something that can nullify omnipotence." would be asked, nothing like that exists therefor it doesnt make sense.

 

[SchutzenDunkelZiel1217]

Which is why I said omnipotence is the only thing which exist beyond logic.

 

[Abbadon_the_Chaos_King]

They are beyond valid reasoning of science and nature, there for they are beyond logic.

also something like "If blackholes encountered something that could destroy it, would it be destroyed?" again doesnt make sense becuase there is no scientific way that could happen.

 

[SchutzenDunkelZiel1217]

Just because there isn't a scientific way it could happen doesn't mean it can't happen. We simply haven't discovered it yet....

It makes perfect sense. If something could destroy it when encountered then it can destroyed smple as that. Just because we don't know what that thing is doesn't mean black holes are beyond logic....

 

[Abbadon_the_Chaos_King]

If there is no scientific way for something like that to occur, then it is illogical, is there any scientific way to describe spirits or supernatural entities as of the moment? no, therfor it is illogical. there is NO reasoning or valdi evidence as of now, therefor it is illogical.

Yes it does, if there is nothing we know of that can destroy it, therefor it is beyond the logic of destruction since there is no modern conceivable way to destroy it right now.

 

[SchutzenDunkelZiel1217]

Another question would be how does it not make sense...

 

[SchutzenDunkelZiel1217]

Black holes can be destroyed by sucking away the hawking radiation -_-

 

[Abbadon_the_Chaos_King]

sense in this context means it is reasonable, there is no way at all, let alone any reasonable achievable way to destroy one, there for it doesnt make sense that we could destroy one since we have no means of accomplishing such.

 

[Abbadon_the_Chaos_King]

But is there any feasible way that we could do such, is there anyway to even get close to one? no.

 

[SchutzenDunkelZiel1217]

Sigh, You seem to be talking about science and magic. Simply put logic is simply the reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity. This doesn't say that it has to be scientifically valid.

We currently don't have the technology to make something that can suck out hawking radiation. Doesn't mean black holes are beyond logic.

 

[SchutzenDunkelZiel1217]

Somethig we haven't done is not equal to something we can't do....

 

[Abbadon_the_Chaos_King]

As of now, there is NO valid reasoning towards the existence of ghosts or supernatural entities in general, this means that they are beyond logic since there is no valid reason behind there existence, it doesnt matter that we have not discovered a way, it remains illogical.

well im tired of this question lets just see what other people think about the battle.

 

[SchutzenDunkelZiel1217]

There are multiple theories as to why ghost exist and how everything came into existence as such there are multiple reasoning towards the existence of ghosts.

Very well. Personally I feel that Aron would win though which is why I voted for him...

 

[ShikonChireru]

Both of their stats are relatively equal. Kain has a more descriptive power and skill set but Amon has superior speed so he would win more often than not.
Also logic applies to literally everything besides Omnipotence....

It also seems Amon's Durability is slightly higher than Kain's...

 

[Abbadon_the_Chaos_King]

So since no one has eidted on this for a while, does this mean Amon wins?

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Seeing as Amon has two votes with Kain having like 0 of them and he seems to have like an advantage of sorts over Kain in terms of speed and durability plus his immunity(?) to Kain's Chaos Theory ability, it seems so that he wins here.

 

[Abbadon_the_Chaos_King]

ok

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Looks like Amon finally has his win here. At least Kain has his win too, but now he has a loss though.

 

[EliminatorVenom]

So, let's close this thread. Abbadon, change Amon to having a win, and I'll change Kain's profile.

GG tho.

 

[Abbadon_the_Chaos_King]

already done